Sabretooth and Sasquatch Synergy [Merged Threads]

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  • ThedancingkidThedancingkid Posts: 153
    Cioper said:

    Sorry for double comment, that was a mistake, unfortunately wasn't able to delete previous one.

    Still it would be nice to know if Kabam is going to leave it as it is or nerf it, before people start to rank him up for sole purpose of exploring Abyss of Legends... As currently it's the only mode in which this heavy-revive rank-up makes sense, as normally you'd have to use like 4-6k units per lane anyway, and that way you can spend like 2k units for revives and then solo every fight.
    So yeah, for many people it would be nice to know in which direction Kabam will go with this. So please @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Lyra give us some answers.


    Solo every fight... Except all the tech and cosmic ones at least.
  • MenkentMenkent Posts: 570 ★★★
    I'm now leaning toward them not changing it. The coordinated content dump by so many CCP guys at the same time makes it seem like they had been pointed to that mechanic by kabam, just like we would get every CCP member posting the same info (often the same wording) about the dev diaries.
    Anyway, I wouldn't rank up sabertooth just for this synergy. As others have pointed out, it's mostly youtuber hype. Youd have a hard time building to 50k mediums in normal content on a live server.
  • MuffinBrainMuffinBrain Posts: 508 ★★★
    Yes it will be the same. Reason being u need to dump a **** ton of units just to get the "beyond god tier" damage
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 8,219 ★★★★★
    I don’t see any issues with the synergy, the wording works out, and it’s not going to make him better than aegon for abyss or lab, and he can’t reach the levels of absurdity in story, he’s he can still deal great damage there, but keep in mind he still doesn’t have a ton of utility and does need a synergy to get all of this
  • Bruce12342Bruce12342 Posts: 220
    Hey Kabam, can you let us know if this is working as intended? I’d hate to go for crystals and get Sasquatch only to find out shortly after that this wasn’t intended. I know you’d love this however... lol
  • MattManMattMan Posts: 359 ★★★
    This is the type of thing the community needs an immediate response on. If transparency is truly as important as Kabam says....let us know before thousands of folks go ranking up their Sabrerooth
  • Bruce12342Bruce12342 Posts: 220
    Absolutely agree. It’s humorous how the ST crystals are available as these videos are coming out... and soon we will see Sasquatch... They really need to speak, the silence is unprofessional.
  • ImranImran Posts: 374 ★★

    What answers? The synergy cannot be more clear as it is stated in the Sasquatch Spotlight. And it certainly works as intended.

    I believe that Kabam are fully aware of how strong this synergy makes ST. And they are also very well aware of how impractical (and actually... expensive) it is to apply it.

    Few words
    guilly2099 synergy and hela-loki synergy.
  • ImranImran Posts: 374 ★★
    Pratham02 said:

    If every quest in act 6 has like 7 to 8 fights , you cant reach 50 furies and so it really isn't a broken synergy . Broken if you're ready to spend in revives , but not if you're playing conservatively .

    Yah, right brothers but youtubers in video saying these broken word very often surprisingly!!!
  • GmonkeyGmonkey Posts: 943 ★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    I don’t see any issues with the synergy, the wording works out, and it’s not going to make him better than aegon for abyss or lab, and he can’t reach the levels of absurdity in story, he’s he can still deal great damage there, but keep in mind he still doesn’t have a ton of utility and does need a synergy to get all of this

    Have you seen Brian grants video.

  • RhymenocerusRhymenocerus Posts: 112
    @Captain_Zan when people were arguing about how he didn't have unlimited furies, Zzyzx made a rant video on how it works.

    Here's the post from the other topic:

    Zzyzx asked me to post this:


  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 8,822 ★★★★★
    Cioper said:

    Sorry for double comment, that was a mistake, unfortunately wasn't able to delete previous one.

    Still it would be nice to know if Kabam is going to leave it as it is or nerf it, before people start to rank him up for sole purpose of exploring Abyss of Legends... As currently it's the only mode in which this heavy-revive rank-up makes sense, as normally you'd have to use like 4-6k units per lane anyway, and that way you can spend like 2k units for revives and then solo every fight.
    So yeah, for many people it would be nice to know in which direction Kabam will go with this. So please "Kabam Miike" "Kabam Zibiit" "Kabam Vydious" "Kabam Porthos" "Kabam Lyra" give us some answers.

    Stop tagging the mods. OP did it and now you've done it. The whole synergy is highly impractical and not a good strategy. Plus for Book 2, the paths aren't long enough to get enough furys anyway. The synergy is fine the way it is. You people are over reacting.
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 4,134 ★★★★★
    I don't see how it is more broken than an Aegon with 999 on the combo meter. Currently Abyss is locked to must-have-Aegon condition. Might as well have a champion to rival him there.
  • RaganatorRaganator Posts: 1,735 ★★★★★
    Haji_Saab said:

    I don't see how it is more broken than an Aegon with 999 on the combo meter. Currently Abyss is locked to must-have-Aegon condition. Might as well have a champion to rival him there.

    Actually less so. Sabertooth isn't going to shrug off debuffs because he has a high fury count.
  • Haji_Saab said:

    I'm checking on this. Sabretooth's description clearly calls out "Sabretooth cannot convert his passive Fury effects while fighting if he has 15 or more permanent passive Fury effects active.", so I don't know what is happening here.

    LOL .. read his spotlight .. it is specifically mentioned that you can close out a fight with sp3 to go over the 15 fury threshold.
    Good call out, but I don't think it was ever intended for him to get to 50. I might be wrong, but the team is looking into it.
  • danielmathdanielmath Posts: 2,081 ★★★★

    I'm checking on this. Sabretooth's description clearly calls out "Sabretooth cannot convert his passive Fury effects while fighting if he has 15 or more permanent passive Fury effects active.", so I don't know what is happening here.

    wait so this wasn't tested? no one at kabam realized this?
    It doesn’t exist in the game though, so can’t say that unless it’s actually released
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,784 ★★★★★

    I'm checking on this. Sabretooth's description clearly calls out "Sabretooth cannot convert his passive Fury effects while fighting if he has 15 or more permanent passive Fury effects active.", so I don't know what is happening here.

    wait so this wasn't tested? no one at kabam realized this?
    It doesn’t exist in the game though, so can’t say that unless it’s actually released
    of course, good point. I guess the CCP would be part of testing
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,784 ★★★★★
    edited July 13
    how did the designers intend this synergy to work then, if they didn't think it could do what ccp is doing? was it just a way to keep his damage for the entire quest?
  • Anonymous346Anonymous346 Posts: 624 ★★★
    Apparently they never realised he can get more than 15 furies
  • KILLMФИGЕЯKILLMФИGЕЯ Posts: 32

    I'm checking on this. Sabretooth's description clearly calls out "Sabretooth cannot convert his passive Fury effects while fighting if he has 15 or more permanent passive Fury effects active.", so I don't know what is happening here.

    It states you can get an extra fury using sp3 to go over 15 but I do think anything over 50 furies with this synergy is absolutely broken hahah
    If you guys change it to be fair for both sides I’d say cap that **** at no more than 50! Anything more is a waste of units and would wreck the game
  • Ebony_NawEbony_Naw Posts: 390 ★★★

    how did the designers intend this synergy to work then, if they didn't think it could do what ccp is doing? was it just a way to keep his damage for the entire quest?


    Tbf, one of his greatest setbacks has always been that you have 4-6 fights of ramp up before starting over. Adding this synergy makes him more practical on a fundamental level before he gets op.

    But the fact that they couldn't see past that is an issue, and the ccp videos should have never seen the light of day if this was never intended. I woukd guess we saw them before Kabam did, but that's part of the problem, not the explanation. If they fix it now, it's a bit of a weak move imo (same as with g2099)
  • Anonymous346Anonymous346 Posts: 624 ★★★
    I think it would be better to stop the combo furies from stacking when he dies but still allow the sp3 fury to stack. This way, they synergy won’t be completely broken as it would take twice the amount of resources to ramp up a decent amount of furies, making it a lot more impractical for labyrinth or abyss, yet still a decent synergy for building up to maybe around 25-30 furies in a normal quest
  • Ebony_NawEbony_Naw Posts: 390 ★★★

    Apparently they never realised he can get more than 15 furies

    I am one person that doesn't know the ins and outs of Sabretooth, so let's take it down a notch. There are over 150 Champions, and as mentioned, I'm waiting to hear back from the designer and team about this.

    With one little line that explains how this could get to the level discovered by the CCP. Anyone yelling at you, as an individual needs a reality check.

    That said, the CCP are incredibly capable and creative individuals... has Kabam ever thought about recruiting their help to test new synergies for unforseen exploits? This could really tone down the bad optics of having to backtrack once these videos are posted on YouTube by nipping them in the op aspects of the synergy in the bud.
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