Doom and Stubborn AW Global

MSpawnMSpawn Member Posts: 102 ★
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Is it me or does the combo of Doom’s ability mixed with the Stubborn global feel like an item suck? Not fun at all!!! Wonder if the game devs realize this isn’t skill based? Punishing the evade or dodge is mechanic is basically a handicap match! If it’s passive and we can’t get rid of it, wouldn’t it be more fair to make it a “chance” to proc instead of guaranteed? Thoughts?
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  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Not skill based? Wow
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,116 ★★★★★
    Use ghost leav the incinerate link op and se him melted thanks me later
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    danielmath said:

    Not skill based? Wow

    you cant understand where he comes from? Evade l1 then parry/take block damage gives it a chance to shock. Unless we are playing different games, doom usually immediately heavies.
    Shut his aura off. Plus there are other ways to take that fight down as well
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    danielmath said:

    Not skill based? Wow

    you cant understand where he comes from? Evade l1 then parry/take block damage gives it a chance to shock. Unless we are playing different games, doom usually immediately heavies.
    Let's all be happy that Doom isn't a control champ...
  • MSpawnMSpawn Member Posts: 102 ★
    Kill_Grey4112 said:

    pseudosane said:

    danielmath said:

    Not skill based? Wow

    you cant understand where he comes from? Evade l1 then parry/take block damage gives it a chance to shock. Unless we are playing different games, doom usually immediately heavies.
    Let's all be happy that Doom isn't a control champ...
    Lol right!
  • FrostyFrosty Member Posts: 485 ★★★
    Kill_Grey4112 said:

    pseudosane said:

    danielmath said:

    Not skill based? Wow

    you cant understand where he comes from? Evade l1 then parry/take block damage gives it a chance to shock. Unless we are playing different games, doom usually immediately heavies.
    Let's all be happy that Doom isn't a control champ...
    Most champs don't crit often against him though due to his crit resistance
  • Mart83Mart83 Member Posts: 21 ★
    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,116 ★★★★★
    Mart83 said:

    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again

    I’m Agerd with nick is really hard but doom one a boss now is really not that bad if u hav a ghost user
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Mart83 said:

    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again

    What nodes is nick hard on? He wasn’t bad on 23 or 25, haven’t taken him anywhere else I don’t think
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,116 ★★★★★
    danielmath said:

    Mart83 said:

    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again

    What nodes is nick hard on? He wasn’t bad on 23 or 25, haven’t taken him anywhere else I don’t think
    Heavy hitter he can be a pain but can be played arund with intersup. More
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,434 ★★★★★
    Yeah, I don’t love Doom’s interaction with this node. Evade the unblockable sp1, now he has to hit your block. This is fine enough when he’s not stun immune, but on the boss node you can’t parry and so you end up eating a few blocked hits and Doom has a lot of block penetration. He is also likely to shock you while you’re blocking him and then slap you right across the face. It’s just not fun to be in a spot where you have to intercept him as your only means of doing damage, but he’s indestructible most of the time you would go for it.
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    danielmath said:

    Mart83 said:

    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again

    What nodes is nick hard on? He wasn’t bad on 23 or 25, haven’t taken him anywhere else I don’t think
    He’s annoyingly on kinetic transference and footloose, also gets some kills on the first node of path 6 section 2
  • JMORG1111JMORG1111 Member Posts: 184 ★★
    Gamer said:

    Use ghost leav the incinerate link op and se him melted thanks me later

    How do you deal with the indestructible? He gains one when he misses, so you'll need to get hit or block to do any damage.
  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★
    LucianoDelHoya said:

    Love you rite no

    well someone's drunk....
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    danielmath said:

    Mart83 said:

    Yep doom and nick fury with stubborn on certain nodes are close to impossible to one shot, it’s like fighting doom when siphon first got buffed again

    What nodes is nick hard on? He wasn’t bad on 23 or 25, haven’t taken him anywhere else I don’t think
    He’s annoyingly on kinetic transference and footloose, also gets some kills on the first node of path 6 section 2
    ya that's 25, i did that one once, it wasn't bad
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  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,116 ★★★★★
    JMORG1111 said:

    Gamer said:

    Use ghost leav the incinerate link op and se him melted thanks me later

    How do you deal with the indestructible? He gains one when he misses, so you'll need to get hit or block to do any damage.
    Yes one blok hit and all this incinerate node op means hit pretty much dead after 1 sp2. The node don’t giv infinity Instructables can only stake to 1 so not really that bad aks dreaming one in 4 loki take that node
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  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    JMORG1111 said:

    Gamer said:

    Use ghost leav the incinerate link op and se him melted thanks me later

    How do you deal with the indestructible? He gains one when he misses, so you'll need to get hit or block to do any damage.
    Yes one blok hit and all this incinerate node op means hit pretty much dead after 1 sp2. The node don’t giv infinity Instructables can only stake to 1 so not really that bad aks dreaming one in 4 loki take that node
    I don't take doom bosses, pandamanpete takes it for us with ghost
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Mcord117 said:

    the fight I have come across that is awful is Thing with stuborn on the reflective stun node. Anyone with suggestions for that fight? I guess human torch could work cause the incinerate turns the reflective stun off

    Wouldn't Nick Fury work fine for it. That's who I used for thing on encroaching stun
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,116 ★★★★★
    danielmath said:

    Gamer said:

    JMORG1111 said:

    Gamer said:

    Use ghost leav the incinerate link op and se him melted thanks me later

    How do you deal with the indestructible? He gains one when he misses, so you'll need to get hit or block to do any damage.
    Yes one blok hit and all this incinerate node op means hit pretty much dead after 1 sp2. The node don’t giv infinity Instructables can only stake to 1 so not really that bad aks dreaming one in 4 loki take that node
    I don't take doom bosses, pandamanpete takes it for us with ghost
    Ikow that’s why I’m said you ikow more of that’s story
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    Mcord117 said:

    the fight I have come across that is awful is Thing with stuborn on the reflective stun node. Anyone with suggestions for that fight? I guess human torch could work cause the incinerate turns the reflective stun off

    Wouldn't Nick Fury work fine for it. That's who I used for thing on encroaching stun
    omega
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    danielmath said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Mcord117 said:

    the fight I have come across that is awful is Thing with stuborn on the reflective stun node. Anyone with suggestions for that fight? I guess human torch could work cause the incinerate turns the reflective stun off

    Wouldn't Nick Fury work fine for it. That's who I used for thing on encroaching stun
    omega
    Yeah pretty sure that's who they sent in our BG as well last war for the reflective stun fight. I just never think about him personally since I never use him
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Mcord117 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Mcord117 said:

    the fight I have come across that is awful is Thing with stuborn on the reflective stun node. Anyone with suggestions for that fight? I guess human torch could work cause the incinerate turns the reflective stun off

    Wouldn't Nick Fury work fine for it. That's who I used for thing on encroaching stun
    only in second phase for stun immunity but yeah, I can see getting him into a cycle of sp as long as you can evade them without triggering dext otherwise you will chip down
    You have his whole first life you can take chip damage freely. His specials and heavy can be evaded without triggering dex most times as well. Omega like mentioned is probably the better option but I'd be surprised if Nick couldn't handle it as well especially with a 5min timer now
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