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Easy way for Kabam to buff old champions as part of the roadmap towards (hopefully) saving this game

Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Posts: 1,077 ★★★
edited June 2020 in Suggestions and Requests
I know there are so many issues that Kabam must address in their roadmap (and they haven’t done themselves any favors by stalling) but here’s one easy solution to buffing old champions that shouldn’t take that much time.

Use champion specific buff/debuff stacking on par with Hyperion/Nick Fury. Such a simple fix (instead of whole champion reworks like Colosus) but it would make the game so much more fun with these older champs (think Incursions).

For example:

Abomination/Diablo/etcetera: Stacks Poison Debuffs

Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

Daredevil/Moon Knight/Classic Ironman/etcetera: Stacks Precision Buffs

Electro/Storm/Jane Foster/Thor/etcetera: Stacks Electrical Debuffs

And so on and so on...

This wouldn’t take a long time (all the animations could remain the same) but it would absolutely make any champion with this type of dynamic instantly more relevant and enjoyable for the game.

Lighting Fists and Pyrotechnics are the greatest novel aspect of Incursions and it would be so easy to put into place with champions in regular gameplay.

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    MathgeekMathgeek Posts: 609 ★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    Also, Jane Foster isn’t bad. She can be used for Abyss and the Grandmaster.

    (I have proof for this, fight me)

    Show us the proof
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    SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 21,809 ★★★★★
    edited June 2020
    Jane Foster for Abyss, this post right here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/180610/abyss-o-legends-completion-no-doom

    For Grandmaster, CCP member Karate Mike: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUl6LJBRXg

    here ya go @Mathgeek
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    MathgeekMathgeek Posts: 609 ★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    Jane Foster for Abyss, this post right here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/180610/abyss-o-legends-completion-no-doom

    For Grandmaster, CCP member Karate Mike: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUl6LJBRXg

    here ya go @Mathgeek

    Thanks
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    Notsavage19Notsavage19 Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
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    pete8388pete8388 Posts: 142 ★★
    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
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    Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Posts: 1,077 ★★★
    pete8388 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
    Exactly
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    Notsavage19Notsavage19 Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    pete8388 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
    People keep pushing for the game to be more "comic accurate", but then you're suggesting that we completely digress from the comics? Okay...

    How does Incinerate make sense for Gambit, a mutant who can charge things with Kinetic Energy? Although fire has Kinetic Energy, it doesn't make sense either way for his attacks to burn his enemies.
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    Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Posts: 1,077 ★★★
    Notsavage19 said:

    pete8388 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
    People keep pushing for the game to be more "comic accurate", but then you're suggesting that we completely digress from the comics? Okay...

    How does Incinerate make sense for Gambit, a mutant who can charge things with Kinetic Energy? Although fire has Kinetic Energy, it doesn't make sense either way for his attacks to burn his enemies.
    Uh... isn’t it obvious? His kinetic energy can cause things to explode. Explosions create flammable gas that burns things... hence, incinerate debuffs.

    Regardless, this is getting off the point. The point is simply that there’s an easy way to buff the worst champions in the game to make them more relevant and increase the overall enjoyment of the game.
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    BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Posts: 2,285 ★★★★★
    This is an idea that's been floated before, but they haven't acted on it in favor of ultra slow reworks and letting most champs stay sucking. They've already done the work implementing the buff/debuff/passive systems on other champs/synergies and they could lift and port them to other champs en masse with minimal fuss and/or muss.

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    Notsavage19Notsavage19 Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    Disgruntled_User_123 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    pete8388 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
    People keep pushing for the game to be more "comic accurate", but then you're suggesting that we completely digress from the comics? Okay...

    How does Incinerate make sense for Gambit, a mutant who can charge things with Kinetic Energy? Although fire has Kinetic Energy, it doesn't make sense either way for his attacks to burn his enemies.
    Uh... isn’t it obvious? His kinetic energy can cause things to explode. Explosions create flammable gas that burns things... hence, incinerate debuffs.

    Regardless, this is getting off the point. The point is simply that there’s an easy way to buff the worst champions in the game to make them more relevant and increase the overall enjoyment of the game.
    Combustion produces CO2, which is non-combustible, so you got a non-combustible gas. Furthermore, that's like saying since guns have gunpowder, the gun can explode, causing a burn, meaning that Joe Fixit should cause Incinerate.
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    H_I_ZH_I_Z Posts: 496 ★★
    I had this idea sometime ago, what if we gave each of the OG 6 avengers unique synergies with each other, Based on MCU or comics. FOr example: OG Iron man could have a self aiding synergy with thor called "power level at 400%" in regards to the fight scene in the first avengers. this would give Iron man increased damage on specials and all of tehm would power burn. Also post arc overload (which heals extra) he gains increased attack and each of his specials regen a little bit.

    ding something like this would please the whole player base, especially those who pulled an OG 6* Iron man from their first crystal and are going for Cavalier, Now if Kabam would lift the restriction so they can bring in their 4* thor
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    RU11011RU11011 Posts: 880 ★★★★
    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    To be fair, there's some confusion among comic writers about Cyclops' beams, though they mostly lean towards concussion-based attacks. Maybe the specials can land concussions which provide extra damage?
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    Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Posts: 1,077 ★★★
    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    pete8388 said:

    Notsavage19 said:

    Disgruntled_User_123 said:


    Cyclops/Gambit/etcetera: Stacks Incinerate Debuffs

    Why Incinerates? Cyclops' beams are more Concussion-based, and I don't think Gambit lights anyone on fire.
    I like the idea of adding incinerates to their special. A nice buff to add to their damage output and incinerate makes sense given their powers.
    People keep pushing for the game to be more "comic accurate", but then you're suggesting that we completely digress from the comics? Okay...

    How does Incinerate make sense for Gambit, a mutant who can charge things with Kinetic Energy? Although fire has Kinetic Energy, it doesn't make sense either way for his attacks to burn his enemies.
    Uh... isn’t it obvious? His kinetic energy can cause things to explode. Explosions create flammable gas that burns things... hence, incinerate debuffs.

    Regardless, this is getting off the point. The point is simply that there’s an easy way to buff the worst champions in the game to make them more relevant and increase the overall enjoyment of the game.
    Combustion produces CO2, which is non-combustible, so you got a non-combustible gas. Furthermore, that's like saying since guns have gunpowder, the gun can explode, causing a burn, meaning that Joe Fixit should cause Incinerate.
    Why is this such an argument for you? We’re getting off topic. The point is to simply make useless champions relevant with minimal work to be done by Kabam.
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    ZirkonZirkon Posts: 61 ★
    I think Hela needs to cause bleed on opponents. Uhm, she produces sharp blades?
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    DariusYiDariusYi Posts: 171 ★
    the pyro and lightning fist in incursion is awesome.
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