Science Sig Stone Dilemma - I need advice.

KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
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So I have a 5/65 Cap IW (awakened, sig 120), an unawakened 3/45 HT, and an unawakened 1/25 Void. I have 3 science awakening gems but don't have much access to sig stones, however I will be getting more sig stones from the heralds of galactus side event. I will be getting about 40 more generic sig stones this month. Should I keep investing in my 5/65 to get him to max sig (I don't have the despair mastery), awaken and invest in Void, or awaken and invest in HT?

Please explain why into the comments as I'm not an expert in either Void or HT.

Science Sig Stone Dilemma - I need advice. 62 votes

Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
77%
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Invest all sig stones into Void
19%
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Invest all sig stones into HT
3%
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Comments

  • phil56201phil56201 Member Posts: 986 ★★★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    Your already this far with Cap and he needs all his sig levels, just like Void would. Might as well finish off Cap, then save sigs for Void. Wouldn't use an AG on him until you have him at least R4'd AND have enough sigs to make him usable. Could very easily naturally dupe him in all that time.

    And you need despair to get the most out of all 3 of those champions, so I'd get that one unlocked and maxed ASAP.

    HT doesnt really need his dupe
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    phil56201 said:

    Your already this far with Cap and he needs all his sig levels, just like Void would. Might as well finish off Cap, then save sigs for Void. Wouldn't use an AG on him until you have him at least R4'd AND have enough sigs to make him usable. Could very easily naturally dupe him in all that time.

    And you need despair to get the most out of all 3 of those champions, so I'd get that one unlocked and maxed ASAP.

    HT doesnt really need his dupe

    Void can still reverse healing without despair right, just less effectively? One FOTV and a petrify and it's 150% healing reduction, right?
  • QacobQacob Member Posts: 2,253 ★★★★★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    KDSuperFlash10 said:

    phil56201 said:

    Your already this far with Cap and he needs all his sig levels, just like Void would. Might as well finish off Cap, then save sigs for Void. Wouldn't use an AG on him until you have him at least R4'd AND have enough sigs to make him usable. Could very easily naturally dupe him in all that time.

    And you need despair to get the most out of all 3 of those champions, so I'd get that one unlocked and maxed ASAP.

    HT doesnt really need his dupe

    Void can still reverse healing without despair right, just less effectively? One FOTV and a petrify and it's 150% healing reduction, right?
    Yep. But he needs the awakening for that.
  • OnmixOnmix Member Posts: 508 ★★★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    Go CapIW

    CapIW needs sig 200 for the 100% chance on his utility.
    Void’s utility doesn’t require high sig. Only needs to be awakened.
    HT sig gives him a % chance to regain the pre-fight. You definitely don’t need it to play him.
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Member Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    Qacob said:

    KDSuperFlash10 said:

    phil56201 said:

    Your already this far with Cap and he needs all his sig levels, just like Void would. Might as well finish off Cap, then save sigs for Void. Wouldn't use an AG on him until you have him at least R4'd AND have enough sigs to make him usable. Could very easily naturally dupe him in all that time.

    And you need despair to get the most out of all 3 of those champions, so I'd get that one unlocked and maxed ASAP.

    HT doesnt really need his dupe

    Void can still reverse healing without despair right, just less effectively? One FOTV and a petrify and it's 150% healing reduction, right?
    Yep. But he needs the awakening for that.
    I will prolly awaken him and take him to r3 or r4.
  • phil56201phil56201 Member Posts: 986 ★★★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    KDSuperFlash10 said:

    phil56201 said:

    Your already this far with Cap and he needs all his sig levels, just like Void would. Might as well finish off Cap, then save sigs for Void. Wouldn't use an AG on him until you have him at least R4'd AND have enough sigs to make him usable. Could very easily naturally dupe him in all that time.

    And you need despair to get the most out of all 3 of those champions, so I'd get that one unlocked and maxed ASAP.

    HT doesnt really need his dupe

    Void can still reverse healing without despair right, just less effectively? One FOTV and a petrify and it's 150% healing reduction, right?
    He can stop healing with 2 stacks (50% each) unduped, but not reverse it. You need the despair mastery for him to reverse it. 3/3 reduces healing by 15% per debuff. So at 6 debuffs at 90% heal reduction plus the 100% from double petrifies is what puts healing into the negative.

    It is possible to do as you say when awakened without despair, but only at high sig levels. At low sig, he will not generate debuffs fast enough for you to ever reliable get another 2 petrifies on top of a FOTV. It usually expires before getting more than 2 or 3 extra debuffs if you are playing super aggressive.

  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★
    Invest all sig stones into HT
    misclicked, meant void whoopsy
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  • MaximusSavageMaximusSavage Member Posts: 37 ★
    If it's me, I awaken Torch and hope to dupe him naturally, and put the stones in CapIW or Void. Seems like you play Cap more since he's ranked so I'd go there. Not having despair doesn't help heal reversal but Cap is much more than that. I don't personally play void at any rarity despite having him.
  • BsuGuyBsuGuy Member Posts: 138 ★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    My Sig 200 CapIW is a utility knife. Cuts right through most content
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  • CiciliatoCiciliato Member Posts: 302 ★
    Invest all sig stones into Cap IW
    Sig 1 Void still good for his better matchups (against healing and power gain). High sig he can be used more general but usually it isn't where you take him
    I have all 3 maxed and Void and Torch are flex spots for the quest and Cap is overall more reliable for non-specific fights, he can fit almost everywhere
  • The_UNCOLLECTED123The_UNCOLLECTED123 Member Posts: 27 ★
    Pour your sigs into cap.
    Probably use ag on void.
    Nvm about awakening ht.
  • The_UNCOLLECTED123The_UNCOLLECTED123 Member Posts: 27 ★
    It depends on what content you are to finish and are you really in need of another science champ since you already have cap. Although you can use void for aw defense too.
    The_UNCOLLECTED123 said:

    Pour your sigs into cap.
    Probably use ag on void.
    Nvm about awakening ht.

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