**WINTER OF WOE - BONUS OBJECTIVE POINT**
As previously announced, the team will be distributing an additional point toward milestones to anyone who completed the Absorbing Man fight in the first step of the Winter of Woe.
This point will be distributed at a later time as it requires the team to pull and analyze data.
The timeline has not been set, but work has started.
There is currently an issue where some Alliances are are unable to find a match in Alliance Wars, or are receiving Byes without getting the benefits of the Win. We will be adjusting the Season Points of the Alliances that are affected within the coming weeks, and will be working to compensate them for their missed Per War rewards as well.

Additionally, we are working to address an issue where new Members of an Alliance are unable to place Defenders for the next War after joining. We are working to address this, but it will require a future update.

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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    edited August 2020
    Ganesh10a said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    You can still use your 4* in this fight. Even better, use 3 or 2 star and prove your skill. This nerf is for the people who needs that 3k 5* and Gold to improve their account. There is no need to be salty about it and blame other people.
    No, this nerf is to cater to people who don't have skills to fight and want to whine and cry until they get their way.
    They have released two contents. One is for end game player with skills. Once is for people who want to do the event for fun. That's more than 99% of the player base. So yeah. They need to focus on the larger player base as well. I seriously don't know why are you complaining about the nerf ?

    If you want to do it with 4* do it. Nobody is stopping is stopping. If a casual player wants to do it with 6*. Let them do and get the rewards. People play the game for fun. They don't have to be the most skilled ones to get 3k 5* shards.
    Jesus. 100% false statement.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    Read my post properly. If you think skill isnt there dont do it. Do showdown. If you cant do that then its cuz of countrys laws. Again this wasnt meant for you or me. It was meant for lower lvl ppl. You think that they can on 1.4 mil health with their 4* r3s??!?!?!? 200k-300k woud require skill from them so i dont know what you mean no skill is left
    What are you even talking about? The fight shouldn't have ever been nerfed. It should have been left alone.

    300k from a team of 4*'s is nothing. Medusa and Colossus are going to have an extremely easy time. But now, it's open to 5 and 6*'s. Again, zero skill. The fight wasn't ever meant for someone who hasn't done act 4 or just getting to act 5. It was to show everyone what the tournament fight was but allowed you to use a full team, boosts and revives.

    But that wasn't good enough for you. You had to cry about it because you couldn't beat it. Now, it's going to be like 450k health, and you can use any star rarity. It's an easier version on Winter Soldier. It's pathetic.
    Do you really think everyone has a ranked up 5/65 medusa and colossus? And do you really think they hv the full synergy team? Not everyone has all these champs and if the fight was never meant for someone in act 4 or reaching uncollected why the heck would it be open to all difficulties huh?!?! This was meant to be FUN. Lower account ppl wouldnt find this fun at all. Stop thinking that everyone has the correct team or time or units or revives like you to go and sit and play for a half hr just to get 3k 5* shards
    You are thick headed huh.

    The whole point was to allow EVERYONE to see what the tournament fight was. At no time did they say EVERYONE should be able to beat this fight. It was meant for people to try. It's open to everyone to give it a go. If they didn't have to roster, then so be it. If they didn't have the correct team before the nerf, they still won't have the correct team after the nerf. Just wait until the next event.

    But that wasn't enough for this community. You think you HAVE to have that gold and shards and because you couldn't do the fight, you cried until they nerfed into the ground. They should reduce the shards to 500 and gold to 100k.

    It was always about testing skills and thinking outside the box to do the fight, but that's not good enough for most. You need something so easy to beat to make yourself feel better.
    I read so many msgs that ppl hv the right counter as 5*s instead of 4*s. Stop telling the rewards should be nerfed. If wht i heard is correct then defeating a silver surfer with 440k health is kinda worth 3k 5* shards so others can progress in the game. They didnt remove the coldsnap node so stop talking like it can be done with any champion!!
    Wait... You can ask for nerfs to content because you can't do it but I can't ask for rewards to be nerfed to match the fights new skill cap? Interesting.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    HI_guys said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    You can still use your 4* in this fight. Even better, use 3 or 2 star and prove your skill. This nerf is for the people who needs that 3k 5* and Gold to improve their account. There is no need to be salty about it and blame other people.
    No, this nerf is to cater to people who don't have skills to fight and want to whine and cry until they get their way.
    They have released two contents. One is for end game player with skills. Once is for people who want to do the event for fun. That's more than 99% of the player base. So yeah. They need to focus on the larger player base as well. I seriously don't know why are you complaining about the nerf ?

    If you want to do it with 4* do it. Nobody is stopping is stopping. If a casual player wants to do it with 6*. Let them do and get the rewards. People play the game for fun. They don't have to be the most skilled ones to get 3k 5* shards.
    Jesus. 100% false statement.
    There is zero false statements in that comment
    Actually there is. They did release 2 versions. Except where the poster gets it wrong is that the "available to all" was meant ONLY to give EVERYONE a look at what the tournament would be like and more so for those people in countries where the event is banned. They said in the announcement that they are the same fights except the other version you can bring a full team.and use resources. That's it. They didn't promise everyone could complete it, just attempt it. That's all. But since most people can't take announcements at face value, they think because it's open to them, they should be able to get the rewards regardless.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    Read my post properly. If you think skill isnt there dont do it. Do showdown. If you cant do that then its cuz of countrys laws. Again this wasnt meant for you or me. It was meant for lower lvl ppl. You think that they can on 1.4 mil health with their 4* r3s??!?!?!? 200k-300k woud require skill from them so i dont know what you mean no skill is left
    What are you even talking about? The fight shouldn't have ever been nerfed. It should have been left alone.

    300k from a team of 4*'s is nothing. Medusa and Colossus are going to have an extremely easy time. But now, it's open to 5 and 6*'s. Again, zero skill. The fight wasn't ever meant for someone who hasn't done act 4 or just getting to act 5. It was to show everyone what the tournament fight was but allowed you to use a full team, boosts and revives.

    But that wasn't good enough for you. You had to cry about it because you couldn't beat it. Now, it's going to be like 450k health, and you can use any star rarity. It's an easier version on Winter Soldier. It's pathetic.
    Do you really think everyone has a ranked up 5/65 medusa and colossus? And do you really think they hv the full synergy team? Not everyone has all these champs and if the fight was never meant for someone in act 4 or reaching uncollected why the heck would it be open to all difficulties huh?!?! This was meant to be FUN. Lower account ppl wouldnt find this fun at all. Stop thinking that everyone has the correct team or time or units or revives like you to go and sit and play for a half hr just to get 3k 5* shards
    You are thick headed huh.

    The whole point was to allow EVERYONE to see what the tournament fight was. At no time did they say EVERYONE should be able to beat this fight. It was meant for people to try. It's open to everyone to give it a go. If they didn't have to roster, then so be it. If they didn't have the correct team before the nerf, they still won't have the correct team after the nerf. Just wait until the next event.

    But that wasn't enough for this community. You think you HAVE to have that gold and shards and because you couldn't do the fight, you cried until they nerfed into the ground. They should reduce the shards to 500 and gold to 100k.

    It was always about testing skills and thinking outside the box to do the fight, but that's not good enough for most. You need something so easy to beat to make yourself feel better.
    I read so many msgs that ppl hv the right counter as 5*s instead of 4*s. Stop telling the rewards should be nerfed. If wht i heard is correct then defeating a silver surfer with 440k health is kinda worth 3k 5* shards so others can progress in the game. They didnt remove the coldsnap node so stop talking like it can be done with any champion!!
    Wait... You can ask for nerfs to content because you can't do it but I can't ask for rewards to be nerfed to match the fights new skill cap? Interesting.
    The rewards help ppl especially lower lvl players!!!! TO you 3k 5* shards might be too much for 400k health but for normal act 5 players its not useless and its worth the time
    No it's not. That's not what this fight is about. No where in the event announcement does it say this event is to help lower level players progress. That's what you see, but that's not what it was for.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    HI_guys said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    You can still use your 4* in this fight. Even better, use 3 or 2 star and prove your skill. This nerf is for the people who needs that 3k 5* and Gold to improve their account. There is no need to be salty about it and blame other people.
    No, this nerf is to cater to people who don't have skills to fight and want to whine and cry until they get their way.
    They have released two contents. One is for end game player with skills. Once is for people who want to do the event for fun. That's more than 99% of the player base. So yeah. They need to focus on the larger player base as well. I seriously don't know why are you complaining about the nerf ?

    If you want to do it with 4* do it. Nobody is stopping is stopping. If a casual player wants to do it with 6*. Let them do and get the rewards. People play the game for fun. They don't have to be the most skilled ones to get 3k 5* shards.
    Jesus. 100% false statement.
    There is zero false statements in that comment
    Actually there is. They did release 2 versions. Except where the poster gets it wrong is that the "available to all" was meant ONLY to give EVERYONE a look at what the tournament would be like and more so for those people in countries where the event is banned. They said in the announcement that they are the same fights except the other version you can bring a full team.and use resources. That's it. They didn't promise everyone could complete it, just attempt it. That's all. But since most people can't take announcements at face value, they think because it's open to them, they should be able to get the rewards regardless.
    If we wanted just a look we could hv gone to a video man. Showup was for fun. Im pretty sure anyone can attempt showdown but their scores wont be counted
    No, not everyone can attempt it. It's only available to 35 countries. That it is the SOLE reason they gave us the 2nd option. If all countries would have allowed this tournament, we wouldn't even have the 2nd version.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    HI_guys said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Ganesh10a said:

    Faseeh said:

    For all of you that think the showup was a nerf to the ground, you are probably an endgame player or have completed ac5 maybe. This wasnt meant only for you. This was meant for those people that are finding it hard to beat the mestro or collector. They could benefit from 3k 5* shards unlike you guys. Imagine when they find the surfer has 1.3 mil health ? Their dreams,hopes,everything would be destroyed. It said "open to all"!!!! A 200k-300k health surfer might be doable by them and it could help them practice for the future i think. So overall thnx

    This nerfed version is in no way going to help you in anyway other than get gold and 5* shards. There's no skill left in the fight at all. People like you who can't handle a challenge and think everything has to be catered to your skill cap ruin events. It's disappointing they made the changes to this event and kept the rewards the same.
    You can still use your 4* in this fight. Even better, use 3 or 2 star and prove your skill. This nerf is for the people who needs that 3k 5* and Gold to improve their account. There is no need to be salty about it and blame other people.
    No, this nerf is to cater to people who don't have skills to fight and want to whine and cry until they get their way.
    They have released two contents. One is for end game player with skills. Once is for people who want to do the event for fun. That's more than 99% of the player base. So yeah. They need to focus on the larger player base as well. I seriously don't know why are you complaining about the nerf ?

    If you want to do it with 4* do it. Nobody is stopping is stopping. If a casual player wants to do it with 6*. Let them do and get the rewards. People play the game for fun. They don't have to be the most skilled ones to get 3k 5* shards.
    Jesus. 100% false statement.
    There is zero false statements in that comment
    Actually there is. They did release 2 versions. Except where the poster gets it wrong is that the "available to all" was meant ONLY to give EVERYONE a look at what the tournament would be like and more so for those people in countries where the event is banned. They said in the announcement that they are the same fights except the other version you can bring a full team.and use resources. That's it. They didn't promise everyone could complete it, just attempt it. That's all. But since most people can't take announcements at face value, they think because it's open to them, they should be able to get the rewards regardless.
    If we wanted just a look we could hv gone to a video man. Showup was for fun. Im pretty sure anyone can attempt showdown but their scores wont be counted
    No, not everyone can attempt it. It's only available to 35 countries. That it is the SOLE reason they gave us the 2nd option. If all countries would have allowed this tournament, we wouldn't even have the 2nd version.
    Have you frickin seen showdown? No suicides=Ur gonna lose. Showup was a condolence
    I don't know what this has to do with what I said.
  • slackerslacker Posts: 772 ★★★★
    Oh come on, if the kabam make the reward too big, i bet everyone gonna force themself spent lots of revive just finish this and still complain this is bs whatever
    Just think that showdown main thing is the fight itself, the reward just an addiction to feel better, they make it less because when you skip it you won't regret too much
  • DjinDjin Posts: 1,962 ★★★★★

    Djin said:

    Add Safeguard and Force of Will node.

    And debuff immunity.
    I'll take that but this will kick out Armor Break champs. I have 5*r4 coldsnap immune.
  • OnmixOnmix Posts: 508 ★★★
    Grumpy said:

    It’s meant to be challenging yes but kabam yet again has put this event on with yet again specific counters only those who want to do this don’t have a cold snap immune champ or a Medusa,ghost etc, where’s that leave the rest of the community?

    Where they are meant to be. Just experiencing the fight and probably not beating it.

    If the showdown was for “end-game” players and the fights were equal, what gave everybody the idea EVERYBODY should’ve completed it ?
    They just gave everybody a chance to EXPERIENCE the same fight. Why do they keep saying you NEED to beat it?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,860 ★★★★★
    Haji_Saab said:

    Faseeh said:

    You think everyone has a 4* kamala ranked up?!?! I mean is your kamala r5??? No offense
    Your excuses will never end. Will they?

    What's next? Not everyone has two thumbs?
    Exactly.
  • GuytennisGuytennis Posts: 420 ★★★
    Faseeh said:

    You think everyone has a 4* kamala ranked up?!?! I mean is your kamala r5??? No offense
    I do

  • MrTicTac19992008MrTicTac19992008 Posts: 566 ★★
    Could you release a spreadsheet of everyone who attempted the showdown and their placing? The leaderboard only shows Top 10. I would love to know where i am.
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