So what do y'all think about magneto now?

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Whaaaat said:

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZPduLKyCU

    He had boosts?
    I don't think so

    Although the 6* doesn't have attack reduction

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:

    What about the 500 attack reduction?
    Pathetic

    There isnt one.
    *masteries*
    Which masteries give +500 attack?
    Suicides give +60% attack (approximately 1200)(
    just off the top of my head I can get up to 400 with str, greater str and glass cannon.
    Yeah but no-one uses greater strength
    And we dont know his setup for that video, nor the team if he had one, it is jsut fights and the data. Did you really think they would make a champ that at rank 5 5* would legitimatly be 120 attack away from a rank 3 6*?
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,565 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    GagoH said:

    The armor break tune down on bleed immunes was just, but I disagree with the prowess cap reduction. It should’ve at least reduced by half of what they have it at now.

    Reducing it to 15 would’ve made hit a little bit harder than the stick he was before. That’s a dumb idea.
    @Iron_Patriot_is_lit i meant reducing by half of what they reduced it by
  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    GagoH said:

    GagoH said:

    The armor break tune down on bleed immunes was just, but I disagree with the prowess cap reduction. It should’ve at least reduced by half of what they have it at now.

    Reducing it to 15 would’ve made hit a little bit harder than the stick he was before. That’s a dumb idea.
    @Iron_Patriot_is_lit i meant reducing by half of what they reduced it by
    Ah that makes more sense.
  • AtomixX33AtomixX33 Member Posts: 63 β˜…
    Whaaaat said:

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZPduLKyCU

    He had boosts?
    I don't think so

    Although the 6* doesn't have attack reduction

    Lormif said:

    Whaaaat said:

    What about the 500 attack reduction?
    Pathetic

    There isnt one.
    *masteries*
    Which masteries give +500 attack?
    Suicides give +60% attack (approximately 1200)(
    just off the top of my head I can get up to 400 with str, greater str and glass cannon.
    Yeah but no-one uses greater strength
    its beta and a video he needs him at max damage
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  • dononedonone Member Posts: 47 β˜…
    is the update out?
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  • WRIRWRIR Member Posts: 563 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Etjama said:

    WRIR said:

    Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.

    I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? πŸ˜‚
    What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.

    250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.

    Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.

    I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
  • amal_nairamal_nair Member Posts: 82 β˜…


    Just waiting for the buff to drop
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,049 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out :)

    Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier
    Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom
    Modok, Darkhawk
    Corvus
    HB
    Sentinel
    Warlock
    G2099 (can't miss her)
    Green Goblin
    Dragon Man
    Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav)
    Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected
    Wolverine Weapon X
    Cable

    Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto :) for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 859 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out :)

    Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier
    Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom
    Modok, Darkhawk
    Corvus
    HB
    Sentinel
    Warlock
    G2099 (can't miss her)
    Green Goblin
    Dragon Man
    Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav)
    Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected
    Wolverine Weapon X
    Cable

    Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto :) for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate

    I can't wait to fight crossbones in 6.1 and degen him to death. :)
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    donone said:

    is the update out?

    WRIR said:

    Etjama said:

    WRIR said:

    Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.

    I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? πŸ˜‚
    What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.

    250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.

    Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.

    I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
    the largest issue with how youa re doing your math is you are using a bad methodology.

    1) You are failing to take into account all other factors than the nerfs
    2) Take 2 of the nerfs, the armor break and the prowess nerfs The armor break nerf only affects metal bleed immune, lasting 10 seconds (and I cannot remember if it stacks with the sp2). The prowess nerf primarily affects non metal champions because metal champions he can get much higher. Therefore it is not really reasonable to add these 2 nerfs together for a reduction in effectiveness, they have to be considered separately.
  • WRIRWRIR Member Posts: 563 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Lormif said:

    donone said:

    is the update out?

    WRIR said:

    Etjama said:

    WRIR said:

    Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.

    I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? πŸ˜‚
    What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.

    250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.

    Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.

    I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
    the largest issue with how youa re doing your math is you are using a bad methodology.

    1) You are failing to take into account all other factors than the nerfs
    2) Take 2 of the nerfs, the armor break and the prowess nerfs The armor break nerf only affects metal bleed immune, lasting 10 seconds (and I cannot remember if it stacks with the sp2). The prowess nerf primarily affects non metal champions because metal champions he can get much higher. Therefore it is not really reasonable to add these 2 nerfs together for a reduction in effectiveness, they have to be considered separately.
    I see. I agree. Him against #metal champions has not been changed meaningfully. I thought that was a given. I was talking about his general usefullness outside his favored matchup.

    So I guess a better assessment would be, against non-metal opponents, his damage output was reduced to about 70% of what he originally was. Against metal champions, there was some reduction, with the armor break on immunity being reduced by approx. 40% and less prowess, but it doesnt mean much.


    Outside of numbers, I don't think he's a weak champion. I think this change actually puts him on par to white magneto outside of #Metal fights, considering his sp3 still inflicts a massive bleed. He originally hit harder than white magneto even outside #Metal fights, which is no longer the case, which is not a bad thing.

    Against metal champions, what made him deal ridiculous damage was always the fact that he can stack indefinite 20% Prowesses which didn't change.
  • DRAGOLADRAGOLA Member Posts: 84 β˜…
    He got a nice helmet
  • QfuryQfury Member Posts: 1,860 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Is this the demise of mojo bosses if you can't quake...
  • spaceoctopusspaceoctopus Member Posts: 1,111 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Qfury said:

    Is this the demise of mojo bosses if you can't quake...

    I don’t think so since it’ll be a bit tougher to ramp him up against stun immune

  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Qfury said:

    Is this the demise of mojo bosses if you can't quake...

    I don’t think so since it’ll be a bit tougher to ramp him up against stun immune

    He really won't need the heavy charge to crush a Mojo boss.
  • Karatemike415Karatemike415 Member, Administrator, Content Creators Posts: 724 Content Creator
    Lmao said:

    Etjama said:

    The nerf was minor honestly, still a beast.

    THey nerfed his potential to about 65% of what was shown in the ccp
    This is not even close to true hahaha
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzpmLywFkE&t=424s

    This is his final form - you're a real silly goose if you think he's not absolutely f$#%ing overpowered.

    Mike, my man! Now that's how you prove a point. πŸ˜‚
  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Magneto is a top 5 mutant now. Say it with me everybody: Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant.

    Did I forget to mention that Magneto is a top 5 mutant?
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 859 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzpmLywFkE&t=424s

    This is his final form - you're a real silly goose if you think he's not absolutely f$#%ing overpowered.

    Good to see you here man. He's still overpowered but I thought kabam was just gonna change his armor break potency instead of the number of prowess stacks.
  • DPXFistheGOATDPXFistheGOAT Member Posts: 727 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Erocks said:

    Nerf was very minor, buff is quite nice. Mags, Colossus and Omega should form a trinity; there's not much they can't handle together.

    Edit: Spelling.

    Laughs in Incursions node "Colorblind"
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited August 2020
    Lmao said:

    the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out :)

    Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier
    Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom
    Modok, Darkhawk
    Corvus
    HB
    Sentinel
    Warlock
    G2099 (can't miss her)
    Green Goblin
    Dragon Man
    Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav)
    Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected
    Wolverine Weapon X
    Cable

    Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto :) for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate

    I can't wait to fight crossbones in 6.1 and degen him to death. :)
    The best part is, even with the Biohazard node and being 90% bleed immune, if you have one point in coagulate, he's fully bleed immune.

    Edit: thought it was 95% he's 90%.
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  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    I cannot wait to get my hands on buffed magneto man. My fingers wanna beat up Bucky β€œPunching Bag” Barns in RoL. I have red mags as an R3 5* right now.
  • KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Member Posts: 1,243 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Instead of being released at 10x what Red Mags originally was...
    He will be released at 9x what he originally was.

    People who are unhappy with this amazing buff must truly struggle with enjoying the bright side of life.
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 859 β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Instead of being released at 10x what Red Mags originally was...
    He will be released at 9x what he originally was.

    People who are unhappy with this amazing buff must truly struggle with enjoying the bright side of life.

    Lol you should talk to gagoH.
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