People saying BG is an example of FTP really need to get a reality check. He plays practically everyday and streams almost every day. He is not an example of an average FTP. Also, I honestly think Kabam should have made this 3 R3 and act 6 exploration. If they really did want to divide the most advanced vs just cavalier, that should have been the metric. Almost anyone can complete act 6 and T5cc can requirement is too much rng. 3 R3 means you have done Abyss and you actually have little content to do and will enable them to release ultra difficult content to suite the elites.
Agree, even giving the title out for 1000$ spent in game would be more honest. At least no RNG.
And if they asked 1000 dollars for requirements do you pay or criticize them again? You can say anything you want
1. It didn't necessarily buffed people's rosters, I'm currently like 20 / 0 on dual crystals for Doom/quake - and it still depend on RNG.
2. the problem is that the 2 requirements are 2 ends of a rope. Either have 6.4 completion, and with it have a certain number (10-15-20) of 5r5 (which fits the progression more), or if they want the 6r3, then have act 6 or 6.4 100% , they fit together more.
3. 7 stars are still faaaaar off the table, like, Avengers 5 far.
1. Stop thinking that it's just you that matters. No one cares about you or me. Just because you didn't get the champ you wanted doesn't mean it hasn't helped others. On average these changes boosted champ accessibility significantly, so Kabam has to bump difficulty.
2. What looks insurmountable now will become much easier in the future. You can't fast forward yourself to the front of the line.
3. 7s aren't far off if the community keeps demanding things. Whether we like it or not, the game is slowly marching towards them. Whining, complaining and getting dual class crystals and Cav difficulty only speeds this up.
I never said it was only me, but I'm one of the many people. And I know I can't fast forward, and I understand that we need an other progression separator, what's more, I definitely agree with that, but putting it behind a huge luck wall, or to be forced to rank up is not the right way imo. All I'm saying, make it a number of r5s instead of r3. It still depend on the same luck/force factor, but much less, and fresh cavalier players will still get locked out of the next part of the content/perk, until they have the enough number of high ranked champions.
Having access to better perks for a player with 1 r3 and like 3 r5s because they were lucky and just completed act 6 is not fair against someone who 100% done act 6 and has 35 r5s, but werent lucky enough for a good r3 .
In My Opinion
Luck? There is no luck involved if you have 40 6*. Luck only a factor if your 6* roster is undeveloped. So as fas as I can see it, all the guys including you who are complaining have undeveloped roster and of course you are not the target they are aiming to.
And we are very fine with it.
Lol, then look around reddit and twitter, you will find many people with 100% act6 and without a reasonable r3 candidate, Mr. Entitled
Define reasonable. People have a list of Champs everyone else calls worthy, and no one considers anything outside of that list.
In your opinion, who would be even rank 2 worthy of them, to get used in any 6.3 lane?
I am playing this game since 2015 and have come across lot of ridiculous things like 12.0 nerf, masteries change etc. 6* R3 requirement is one more such thing.
I have only Abyss left to do. All variants, Act 6, LoL are 100% completed. Act 6 is the only place where we can reliably find T5cc. Playing war is another option but getting into T1/2 wars depends not only on your skills but also how other team members perform. On top of that we are offered shards of T5cc which will require insane RNG to form a full T5cc unless u are done with act 6 100% (which guarantees 1 t5cc) and abyss (3 T5cc).
After 26 R5 5* covering different utilities, immunities, defense and attack requirements for AQ/ AW and 35-36 6*, I am yet to rank up a 6* to R3. Resources are not a constraint. RNG is.
I am attaching some screenshots for reference. I do have a large pull of 6* are there definitely more than 3-4 worthy of R3 and yes, act 6 is 100% but I can't become Throne Breaker because if ridiculous requirements.
Suggestions: change 6* R3 requirement to owning a T5cc (can be from abyss/ act6 exploration / pure luck to form one T5cc from shards / bought some offers etc.). That ensures that summoner is not restricted by pure luck of not pulling a good 6* / or having a T5cc that matches summoners' requirements. " alt="" /> ="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029252/uploads/editor/fj/yd4wrl3suuoi.jpg" alt="" />
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated. @StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
@StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
What meta are you even talking about? You don't need specific champs for most story content and it can be done with R5s anyway. You don't run high tier AW or AQ or you wouldn't be complaining about t5cc being so rare. What "meta" are you trying to cherry pick a rank up for?
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
@StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
What meta are you even talking about? You don't need specific champs for most story content and it can be done with R5s anyway. You don't run high tier AW or AQ or you wouldn't be complaining about t5cc being so rare. What "meta" are you trying to cherry pick a rank up for?
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
@StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
What meta are you even talking about? You don't need specific champs for most story content and it can be done with R5s anyway. You don't run high tier AW or AQ or you wouldn't be complaining about t5cc being so rare. What "meta" are you trying to cherry pick a rank up for?
What's your point?
I'm not entirely sure you know who you're talking to. Work isn't exactly new. Lol.
Anyway, I cherry picked my first R5 and he was Blade. Almost all of the community is cherry picking their first R3 6* and they want to be ready for act 7 or summer of pain. I see no point of R3ing Ronin or any similar character. I would rather invest in unawakened Aegon, since there is one thing guaranteed that I can get a generic 6* AG from Abyss exploration. I can't control which T5cc I am going to get. I am planning for my first run for Abyss but with my luck I will probably pull a cosmic/ tech or another skill.
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
@StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
His use doesn’t come from burst damage. It comes from his utility. He’s a Swiss Army knife: decent DAAR, evade, Passive furies, cruelties, and precision, guaranteed crits, debuff shrug off, suicide friendly, good synergies, good without synergies, and good against bleed immune champs. He’s a solid champ, not the best at anything, but does most things well.
I am playing this game since 2015 and have come across lot of ridiculous things like 12.0 nerf, masteries change etc. 6* R3 requirement is one more such thing.
I have only Abyss left to do. All variants, Act 6, LoL are 100% completed. Act 6 is the only place where we can reliably find T5cc. Playing war is another option but getting into T1/2 wars depends not only on your skills but also how other team members perform. On top of that we are offered shards of T5cc which will require insane RNG to form a full T5cc unless u are done with act 6 100% (which guarantees 1 t5cc) and abyss (3 T5cc).
After 26 R5 5* covering different utilities, immunities, defense and attack requirements for AQ/ AW and 35-36 6*, I am yet to rank up a 6* to R3. Resources are not a constraint. RNG is.
I am attaching some screenshots for reference. I do have a large pull of 6* are there definitely more than 3-4 worthy of R3 and yes, act 6 is 100% but I can't become Throne Breaker because if ridiculous requirements.
Suggestions: change 6* R3 requirement to owning a T5cc (can be from abyss/ act6 exploration / pure luck to form one T5cc from shards / bought some offers etc.). That ensures that summoner is not restricted by pure luck of not pulling a good 6* / or having a T5cc that matches summoners' requirements. " alt="" /> ="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029252/uploads/editor/fj/yd4wrl3suuoi.jpg" alt="" />
The whole point is, the target group is for those who have done AoL or A6 100%.
Take that Ronin up to r3. He's a beast of a champion and is very underrated.
@StevieManWonder I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
His use doesn’t come from burst damage. It comes from his utility. He’s a Swiss Army knife: decent DAAR, evade, Passive furies, cruelties, and precision, guaranteed crits, debuff shrug off, suicide friendly, good synergies, good without synergies, and good against bleed immune champs. He’s a solid champ, not the best at anything, but does most things well.
I agree with that. Now why someone like me, who has completed act 6, has a lot of 565 (26 currently), would consider ranking up Ronin? Forget 6*, I won't even rank up a 5*. Getting champs is luck based and so is T5cc. I have R3 worthy champs and I love playing those (BW, HT, Colossus, Havok) but not having a specific class t5 restricts me. There are two luck factors at work: 1. Getting a 6* worthy of a R3 2. Getting the matching T5cc
And so the probability of matching both is really low. Having a T5cc and completing act 6 should be good enough for qualification of Throne Breaker.
Anyway, I cherry picked my first R5 and he was Blade. Almost all of the community is cherry picking their first R3 6* and they want to be ready for act 7 or summer of pain. I see no point of R3ing Ronin or any similar character. I would rather invest in unawakened Aegon, since there is one thing guaranteed that I can get a generic 6* AG from Abyss exploration. I can't control which T5cc I am going to get. I am planning for my first run for Abyss but with my luck I will probably pull a cosmic/ tech or another skill.
I got mixed up on who said what because the Thread was screwed up.
Also as time goes on, those 2 requirements you claim to be so far apart will continue to get closer and closer as resources like t5cc come into more areas of the game. Just like you have people doing act 5 completion with R5 5*s now when before it wasn't even possible until you explored it
Yes, that's true. But if someone not lucky, or should I say BRAVE enough to upgrade any 6*, then they will merge with those who are currently getting like cavalier, but they are coming on the T5c business with a head start. Is this still the right way to separate players based on "progression"?
Yes it absolutely is. There is zero point in using only beating story content as a measuring stick when it's become a participation trophy. The at least somewhat separates the playerbase on roster strength. Will some peopleIm
I wonder if this gets closed or gets to 100 pages first.
Surprised it's not closed already. It's pretty much all been said by now and the mods haven't commented or been around in I don't even know how many pages.
I am playing this game since 2015 and have come across lot of ridiculous things like 12.0 nerf, masteries change etc. 6* R3 requirement is one more such thing.
I have only Abyss left to do. All variants, Act 6, LoL are 100% completed. Act 6 is the only place where we can reliably find T5cc. Playing war is another option but getting into T1/2 wars depends not only on your skills but also how other team members perform. On top of that we are offered shards of T5cc which will require insane RNG to form a full T5cc unless u are done with act 6 100% (which guarantees 1 t5cc) and abyss (3 T5cc).
After 26 R5 5* covering different utilities, immunities, defense and attack requirements for AQ/ AW and 35-36 6*, I am yet to rank up a 6* to R3. Resources are not a constraint. RNG is.
I am attaching some screenshots for reference. I do have a large pull of 6* are there definitely more than 3-4 worthy of R3 and yes, act 6 is 100% but I can't become Throne Breaker because if ridiculous requirements.
Suggestions: change 6* R3 requirement to owning a T5cc (can be from abyss/ act6 exploration / pure luck to form one T5cc from shards / bought some offers etc.). That ensures that summoner is not restricted by pure luck of not pulling a good 6* / or having a T5cc that matches summoners' requirements. " alt="" /> ="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029252/uploads/editor/fj/yd4wrl3suuoi.jpg" alt="" />
The whole point is, the target group is for those who have done AoL or A6 100%.
Really? What will they do with a biweekly and discounted cavalier crystal, a bit more gold? All these perks are tailored towards progressing players. Those who have 100% every content don't have too much places to progress, other then the prestige war, and I doubt that the new thronebreaker perks are gonna help in that.
I am playing this game since 2015 and have come across lot of ridiculous things like 12.0 nerf, masteries change etc. 6* R3 requirement is one more such thing.
I have only Abyss left to do. All variants, Act 6, LoL are 100% completed. Act 6 is the only place where we can reliably find T5cc. Playing war is another option but getting into T1/2 wars depends not only on your skills but also how other team members perform. On top of that we are offered shards of T5cc which will require insane RNG to form a full T5cc unless u are done with act 6 100% (which guarantees 1 t5cc) and abyss (3 T5cc).
After 26 R5 5* covering different utilities, immunities, defense and attack requirements for AQ/ AW and 35-36 6*, I am yet to rank up a 6* to R3. Resources are not a constraint. RNG is.
I am attaching some screenshots for reference. I do have a large pull of 6* are there definitely more than 3-4 worthy of R3 and yes, act 6 is 100% but I can't become Throne Breaker because if ridiculous requirements.
Suggestions: change 6* R3 requirement to owning a T5cc (can be from abyss/ act6 exploration / pure luck to form one T5cc from shards / bought some offers etc.). That ensures that summoner is not restricted by pure luck of not pulling a good 6* / or having a T5cc that matches summoners' requirements. " alt="" /> ="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029252/uploads/editor/fj/yd4wrl3suuoi.jpg" alt="" />
The whole point is, the target group is for those who have done AoL or A6 100%.
Would be nice if people who did do 100% act 6 actually got the tilte
If only they didn’t nerf A6 to the ground because of all the crying. The baseline roster will be there if A6 was not nerfed, and people who can do so will be ready, roster and skill wise, for A7.
I don't understand why so many are crying. R3 six stars are a significant, account defining, factor. It makes total sense to separate those with from those without.
And it's not like you have to be Thronebreaker the day it releases for god's sake. What's the problem with having to work towards something? If you really want to, you'll get there eventually.
You guys can't stop saying how you need time end effort in the game to deserve Thronebreaker. Now 🎵Tell me why [ain't nothing but a heartache🎶] would 1 lucky 6r3 be a better showcase of time and effort than 25-30, hard earned and grinded 5r5?
I don't understand why so many are crying. R3 six stars are a significant, account defining, factor. It makes total sense to separate those with from those without.
And it's not like you have to be Thronebreaker the day it releases for god's sake. What's the problem with having to work towards something? If you really want to, you'll get there eventually.
I personally don't think there would have been this much if an outcry if it was 100% Act 6 or something. It's because the first few posts showed that even with 100% Act 6 you could still not be able to get the title.
But it's R3 six stars that really matters. It matters for AQ prestige and it matters for AW defense & attack. Your individual progression has no impact on the competition between players and alliances other than skill and experience. It's the roster that officially separates classes of players in this game, and thus it makes sense that titles follow that logic.
You guys can't stop saying how you need time end effort in the game to deserve Thronebreaker. Now 🎵Tell me why [ain't nothing but a heartache🎶] would 1 lucky 6r3 be a better showcase of time and effort than 25-30, hard earned and grinded 5r5?
If 25 r5s actually equalled one r3, this thread wouldn't exist. Clearly they're not equal.
Exactly, because in the future you can have 1 lucky 6r3 by the time you become cavalier, but the only way to get 25-30 5r5 is to really play the game, really get those rank up materials and not just run through the game.
You guys can't stop saying how you need time end effort in the game to deserve Thronebreaker. Now 🎵Tell me why [ain't nothing but a heartache🎶] would 1 lucky 6r3 be a better showcase of time and effort than 25-30, hard earned and grinded 5r5?
If 25 r5s actually equalled one r3, this thread wouldn't exist. Clearly they're not equal.
Exactly, because in the future you can have 1 lucky 6r3 by the time you become cavalier, but the only way to get 25-30 5r5 is to really play the game, really get those rank up materials and not just run through the game.
This is the same that when 5* was released and now you have 25-30 5r5
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I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
What meta are you even talking about? You don't need specific champs for most story content and it can be done with R5s anyway. You don't run high tier AW or AQ or you wouldn't be complaining about t5cc being so rare. What "meta" are you trying to cherry pick a rank up for?
What's your point?
I'm not entirely sure you know who you're talking to. Work isn't exactly new. Lol.
Anyway, I cherry picked my first R5 and he was Blade. Almost all of the community is cherry picking their first R3 6* and they want to be ready for act 7 or summer of pain. I see no point of R3ing Ronin or any similar character. I would rather invest in unawakened Aegon, since there is one thing guaranteed that I can get a generic 6* AG from Abyss exploration. I can't control which T5cc I am going to get. I am planning for my first run for Abyss but with my luck I will probably pull a cosmic/ tech or another skill.
I did some research on that part as well. He might be underrated but he isn't up with current meta. A lot of set up is required to get tiny timer of burst damage which isn't my play style. He might be good but not worth R3. If I can't play why would I waste most precious and highly rare item on him?
His use doesn’t come from burst damage. It comes from his utility. He’s a Swiss Army knife: decent DAAR, evade, Passive furies, cruelties, and precision, guaranteed crits, debuff shrug off, suicide friendly, good synergies, good without synergies, and good against bleed immune champs. He’s a solid champ, not the best at anything, but does most things well.
I agree with that. Now why someone like me, who has completed act 6, has a lot of 565 (26 currently), would consider ranking up Ronin? Forget 6*, I won't even rank up a 5*. Getting champs is luck based and so is T5cc. I have R3 worthy champs and I love playing those (BW, HT, Colossus, Havok) but not having a specific class t5 restricts me. There are two luck factors at work:
1. Getting a 6* worthy of a R3
2. Getting the matching T5cc
And so the probability of matching both is really low. Having a T5cc and completing act 6 should be good enough for qualification of Throne Breaker.
And it's not like you have to be Thronebreaker the day it releases for god's sake. What's the problem with having to work towards something? If you really want to, you'll get there eventually.