Is it just me or do Act 6 rewards still suck?

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  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    Mauled said:

    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Niceeee said:


    Niceeee said:


    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    Who said anything about not wanting to use energy refills.And what does not wanting to use energy refills have anything about act 6 not being for them and choosing another game. At this point, all you are saying is nonsense.
    Act 6 is still difficult even if it's not comparable to the previous act 6.
    Kill_Grey said: 'Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take?'
    (he said some other things as well).
    So he isn't willing to use some refills in order to save units in the long run. If he isn't willing to use units on revives then he should choose another game. That's why

    And I insist that act 6 is extremely easy after the nerf
    Dude, I use(d) energy refills, of course. I also spent quite a lot of revives because I'm not perfect (and because of lag and crappy AI).
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,155 ★★★★★
    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Seraphion said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    edited October 2020
    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Seraphion said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,155 ★★★★★
    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Seraphion said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
    The fact you don’t understand LC or OG Vision is hilarious and makes all your comments irrelevant

    However just to give you some slack we’ll pretend those options don’t work...I’d take doc ock over them anyways and he’d never reach a bar of power.
  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Seraphion said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
    The fact you don’t understand LC or OG Vision is hilarious and makes all your comments irrelevant

    However just to give you some slack we’ll pretend those options don’t work...I’d take doc ock over them anyways and he’d never reach a bar of power.
    With Luke Cage you will be able to tank ONLY 1 sp3.
    Good luck trying to power drain Hyperion with Vision, when the first one holds block.
    Actually, can you send me any video of Vision power draining Hyperion when he holds block? Oh wait, you can't cause it's not possible
  • Player1994Player1994 Member Posts: 793 ★★★
    Original Act6 was Crazy Nothing to say here and i got a Science T5cc i got kabammed bad
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,155 ★★★★★
    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Niceeee said:

    Seraphion said:

    Niceeee said:

    OGAvenger said:

    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
    The fact you don’t understand LC or OG Vision is hilarious and makes all your comments irrelevant

    However just to give you some slack we’ll pretend those options don’t work...I’d take doc ock over them anyways and he’d never reach a bar of power.
    With Luke Cage you will be able to tank ONLY 1 sp3.
    Good luck trying to power drain Hyperion with Vision, when the first one holds block.
    Actually, can you send me any video of Vision power draining Hyperion when he holds block? Oh wait, you can't cause it's not possible
    Bro....come on...come on

    You’re not even talking about just a passive Hyperion anymore. You’re saying this hypothetical Hyperion literally only knows how to block lmao

    You got me man...however since this hypothetical Hyperion only knows how to block, again I will spam heavies with doc ock and he won’t even reach a bar of power. Sounds like the easiest fight in the game actually
  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    OGAvenger said:

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    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
    The fact you don’t understand LC or OG Vision is hilarious and makes all your comments irrelevant

    However just to give you some slack we’ll pretend those options don’t work...I’d take doc ock over them anyways and he’d never reach a bar of power.
    With Luke Cage you will be able to tank ONLY 1 sp3.
    Good luck trying to power drain Hyperion with Vision, when the first one holds block.
    Actually, can you send me any video of Vision power draining Hyperion when he holds block? Oh wait, you can't cause it's not possible
    Bro....come on...come on

    You’re not even talking about just a passive Hyperion anymore. You’re saying this hypothetical Hyperion literally only knows how to block lmao

    You got me man...however since this hypothetical Hyperion only knows how to block, again I will spam heavies with doc ock and he won’t even reach a bar of power. Sounds like the easiest fight in the game actually
    I don't blame you for your ignorance. You probably haven't even finished act 5 (I just saw your in-game profile, and it seems that you have explored act 6 100%. I didn't see that coming)

    It's not about a 'Hypothetical Hyperion'. It's about the passive AI. It doesn't matter who the champ is

    What if it was guillotine 2099? What if it was Omega Red?
  • OGAvengerOGAvenger Member Posts: 1,155 ★★★★★
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    I haven’t said in a single comment that the rewards are poor lol and I too have already 100% act 6

    And I’ve also said I agree with them that people are rushing and trying to take shortcuts to TB title

    My main point in this thread has been and will be for whales to stop telling people not to complain/cry because the content is too easy now. I don’t care what you have now and what you had then. Exploring Act 6 is not easy

    And you guys keep saying “I didn’t have any r3’s when I did act 6”...but I guarantee you had or just about had every champ you needed for those niche fights because you were a whale then and are a whale now

    I can almost hear your cry...

    Act 6 exploration is soooo easy now that they nerfed it to the ground. If you don't have a developed roster, then act 6 isn't for you.

    And now everyone complains about the content being too difficult. It's not that the content is difficult. You don't have the skills

    Enter: Hard to swallow pills meme
    Its fun to see such a delusional guy.

    Act 6 is still far from easy. And the fact that you want to "show your superiority" by saying is super easy is just pathetic.
    Because it's difficult for you, doesn't mean it's difficult for the people who have some 'skill'.
    You can now get through act 6, without having to use a single revive. That's not debatable. THAT'S A FACT
    I dare you to run through act 6 itemless without using any rank 3 6*s.

    Do it without ever restarting a quest, then come back and tell us how it went.
    Who told you that I used a 6* rank 3 in act 6?
    You guys don't understand that you are going to have a 6* rank 3 AFTER exploring act 6 100% unless you are extremely lucky

    You are always saying that: of course act 6 was easy for you, cause you had multiple 6* rank 3 champs. But you don't understand that in order to get the rank 3 champ we had to explore act 6 100% or do a path in abyss.

    Without ever restarting a quest, isn't possible for me cause I can't play perfect all the times. And why is this a requirement?
    I meant it as: you probably have the rank 3 6*s now, so if you actually wanted to do the challenge, they would make it easier for you. Besides, it's almost a guaranteed fact that nobody has ever done a first clear of act 6 with a rank 3 6*.

    As for the restarting part, you're the one saying how "soooo easy" it is. Then that shouldn't be problematic, amirite?
    And because act 6 is 'soooo easy', that means that I can't make any mistake? I am not a robot (I think).
    Also you do realize that the AI must be aggresive, right? Good luck on a Hyperion with defensive AI. That's not something that your skill is going to save you from
    Which is my point. One cannot simply run through act 6 without using revives. Imagine how many restarts and energy refills that would take? You might feel you don't want to spend units on revives, but you would end up spending it on energy refills, or take months of slow pacing.
    You are expecting everything to be in your favor. This can't happen in the real world. You can't have everything that you want.

    And you aren't going to spend the same amount of units in energy refills.
    If you are not willing to use some energy refills then act 6 isn't for you. Actually I would suggest to choose another game. You want the rewards with minimal effort. Might as well give you the rewards without doing a single fight. How that sounds?

    I did most of act 6 itemless, and I explored it under 2 months (except 6.1, which I explored a while ago).
    Oof..imagine thinking a defensive Hyperion is your idea of a hard fight then saying you explored act 6 mostly itemless on a forum where you can pretty much say anything...

    I’m pretty sure I explored all of act 6 in 3.2 hours and actually gained items while I explored it with nothing but r3 5*’s. I can’t prove it but you know...just trust me!
    Passive Hyperion is a difficult fight cause you can't do anything to prevent him from reaching sp3.
    All the fights were the AI is passive are difficult fights

    This is the only type of fight that's BS

    And I couldn't care less if you think that I'm lying
    Let’s take a trip back a few years shall we?

    Enter: doc ock, OG Vision, Luke Cage, iceman, starky, ghost with hood, and I’m sure I could say more but I’m getting kinda tired of proving you why a passive Hyperion isn’t that difficult of a fight

    YO this is like our Act 6 debate right now!! Act 6 is easier but still not easy. Passive Hyperion is harder but still not hard. I feel like we’ve really come together here on this thread guys...it’s been exciting to watch all this beauty unfold
    What if Hyperion holds block until he throws an sp3?
    Luke cage, vision can't do anything. As far as Ghost with hood, Hyperion has thrown his sp3 when the phase ends, numerous times (at least in my experience)

    And I used Hyperion as an example of the passive AI.

    I would suggest you to learn how to read. It's not that difficult. Please let me know when you read your first article.
    Cheers!

    P.S.: the ONLY problem that act 6 has is the passive AI (sometimes)
    The fact you don’t understand LC or OG Vision is hilarious and makes all your comments irrelevant

    However just to give you some slack we’ll pretend those options don’t work...I’d take doc ock over them anyways and he’d never reach a bar of power.
    With Luke Cage you will be able to tank ONLY 1 sp3.
    Good luck trying to power drain Hyperion with Vision, when the first one holds block.
    Actually, can you send me any video of Vision power draining Hyperion when he holds block? Oh wait, you can't cause it's not possible
    Bro....come on...come on

    You’re not even talking about just a passive Hyperion anymore. You’re saying this hypothetical Hyperion literally only knows how to block lmao

    You got me man...however since this hypothetical Hyperion only knows how to block, again I will spam heavies with doc ock and he won’t even reach a bar of power. Sounds like the easiest fight in the game actually
    I don't blame you for your ignorance. You probably haven't even finished act 5 (I just saw your in-game profile, and it seems that you have explored act 6 100%. I didn't see that coming)

    It's not about a 'Hypothetical Hyperion'. It's about the passive AI. It doesn't matter who the champ is

    What if it was guillotine 2099? What if it was Omega Red?
    Literally said earlier in the thread I’ve 100% Act 6 and why post an insult in your own comment then prove yourself wrong in that same comment lol just hit the delete button

    Passive AI have been in the game since I’ve started playing years ago. I have no doubt it can make some situations more annoying but it is certainly not the hardest part of Act 6
  • kfd2010kfd2010 Member Posts: 423 ★★

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    The fact that you cant R3 any champ you want after doing 100% act 6 is still super bad imo.

    I did 1 run in the Abyss and explored 100% act 6. Still no champion to R3 bc I only have worthy champs in Tech and Mutant (after 33 6* crystals). This feels so bad after that all that time it took to do both. Especially with the new title that requires a R3.

    When I explored act 5 I could R5 my first champion. Why not the same for act 6?

    The reason this would frustrate me is the new Thronebreaker level requires you take someone up to R3. That you have to choose the rewards or maybe ranking someone up that you don't want. (Obviously a gripe that's been expressed by many others.)

    I'm not looking to R5 someone. I'm totally fine with them taking time with that. But you should be able to R3 a champ you want easier if that's going to be needed for the next level, especially since you already completed the actual skill based portion of the requirement.
    Act 6 is easy now. They made getting the title far easier than planned and you guys are still crying about it
    Who's crying? I'm not crying. I'm making a point that I don't like the idea of having to rank someone up you don't want to in order to achieve the next level. It's a criticism. Your point about Act 6 being easier has nothing to do with my criticism.
    You don't have to though. It's pretty stupid to do so as well
    Don't even know what you're saying here. I don't have to what? Upgrade someone to get to Thronebreaker? Because I thought that was the requirement. I don't have to become Thronebreaker? Sure I could opt not to, but I'd be giving up some perks to do so. The point I'm making is that shouldn't be a choice you have to make. Just making completing Act 6 the requirement, like beating the Collector was the requirement for Uncollected and beating 6.1 is the requirement for Cavalier.
    The point is that theonebreaker was designed to be a title solely for the top 0.5% of the players in the meta who have done pretty much everything 100% and thus complain about lack of endgame content because there is nothing for them to do, so that Kabam can work on new challenging endgame content catering to their needs and to sufficiently reward them for their achievements by upgrading their rewards from commonplace Cavaliers like me

    The problem is they kept the gate as act 6 completion rather than exploration (which they should have kept) and r3 6 star and in doing so, they created this huge and pointless debate, what u essentially need to understand is theonebreakers are top of the pops and u need to explore act 6 and grond the game long enough to have a r3 worthy 6 star to be like them

    One thing I have to admit though is that the 6 star basic pool is nightmarishly bad and it is perfectly possible that some players will take ages to pull a r3 worthy 6 star but then again 6 star crystals are more common now than previously, keep grinding and I'm sure you'll get there soon 😉😉
    This is the best argument I've seen. The idea if they want this to be such a rare title, one run through act 6 should not be all it takes when it comes to the work needed to be put in. Given time, I put off main act stuff and just do the monthly stuff. But I'm confident I could get one run through of what's left of act 6 for me. (The second half.) My five star roster is definitely robust enough for that. (I have a decent sized 6* roster but no one screaming "Rank me to r3!") And I was considering plowing through that until I saw I had to r3 a champ.

    But if it were exploration of Act 6, I'd never be able to plow through that to pick up the title. I still think the title should be skill based and not influence rank up decisions as a general rule. But have no problem with the idea they want it to be rare enough you need to do more of Act 6 to get there (whether it be 50% or full exploration or what have you.)
  • ImranImran Member Posts: 587 ★★★

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    So you want to R5 a 6* champ? Which would mean, book 2 would be the introduction of 7* champs..

    Considering they've just nerfed act 6, its no where near as bad - yeah for the time investment its long - but book 2 will hopefully be where we start seeing R4 materials and more of an abundance of R3 materials - making doubling back onto Act 6 when you're waiting for 2.1.2, or stuck somewhere in there, even easier

    Bruh. Obviously Im talking about the next rare Rank. I would expect to R3 a 6* if I 100% act 6. Same with act 5. The new rare rank at that point was R5... (5*, <- you need that info I think)</p>
    Well considering the nerfs and how easy it is now, I wouldnt say so.. personally all id ask is to cut some of those paths out completely, or the blank nodes so its not as heavy on the energy and time side.

    Now pre-nerf.. hell yes, that deserved a T5CC at the very least..
    It's still not easy. For me map 6 is very easy. But new act 6 still not easy. I hope you understand.
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
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    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
    There have been no attempts to degrade you by anybody other than yourself. Thus far your salient argument is that Act 6 is very easy as long as you don’t get a passive Hyperion or other champion. This alone implies a lack of game knowledge and/or skill. I see no reason to continue this discourse.
  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    Mauled said:

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    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
    There have been no attempts to degrade you by anybody other than yourself. Thus far your salient argument is that Act 6 is very easy as long as you don’t get a passive Hyperion or other champion. This alone implies a lack of game knowledge and/or skill. I see no reason to continue this discourse.
    Lol, your attempt to look sophisticated is ridiculous.
    Thanks for the laugh!
  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
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    Mauled said:

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    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
    There have been no attempts to degrade you by anybody other than yourself. Thus far your salient argument is that Act 6 is very easy as long as you don’t get a passive Hyperion or other champion. This alone implies a lack of game knowledge and/or skill. I see no reason to continue this discourse.
    Lol, your attempt to look sophisticated is ridiculous.
    Thanks for the laugh!
    Nah, I just think you’re an idiot.
    Even though this show the level of your intelligence, I am not gonna judge your mental state. But I would suggest you to get some professional help.
    There is nothing to be ashamed of.
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    Niceeee said:

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    Mauled said:

    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
    There have been no attempts to degrade you by anybody other than yourself. Thus far your salient argument is that Act 6 is very easy as long as you don’t get a passive Hyperion or other champion. This alone implies a lack of game knowledge and/or skill. I see no reason to continue this discourse.
    Lol, your attempt to look sophisticated is ridiculous.
    Thanks for the laugh!
    Nah, I just think you’re an idiot.
    Even though this show the level of your intelligence, I am not gonna judge your mental state. But I would suggest you to get some professional help.
    There is nothing to be ashamed of.
    I mean, I could use smaller words next time if it’d make things easier but you probably shouldn’t pretend to be clever then make mistakes yourself. That’s a schoolboy error.
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  • NiceeeeNiceeee Member Posts: 125 ★★
    Mauled said:

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    Niceeee said:

    Mauled said:

    I'd just tune this guy out to be honest. I'm fairly sure he's just a troll and is just derailing this for the sake of it.

    You don't have any argument, and that's your last attempt to degrade me.
    Keep trying...
    There have been no attempts to degrade you by anybody other than yourself. Thus far your salient argument is that Act 6 is very easy as long as you don’t get a passive Hyperion or other champion. This alone implies a lack of game knowledge and/or skill. I see no reason to continue this discourse.
    Lol, your attempt to look sophisticated is ridiculous.
    Thanks for the laugh!
    Nah, I just think you’re an idiot.
    Even though this show the level of your intelligence, I am not gonna judge your mental state. But I would suggest you to get some professional help.
    There is nothing to be ashamed of.
    I mean, I could use smaller words next time if it’d make things easier but you probably shouldn’t pretend to be clever then make mistakes yourself. That’s a schoolboy error.
    For real though, go get some help
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