6* R2->R3 PI Decrease
Andrewl89
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Can someone help me understand why PI would decrease after a rank up. BWCV went from 15,210 max R2 to 14,910 R3 L1?
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A R2 6* BWCV has a base critical rating of 738. Against an opponent with a challenger rating as herself (120), she has a crit chance of 26%.
A R3 6* BWCV has a base critical rating of 756. Against an opponent with a challenger rating as herself (130), she has a crit chance of 26%, exactly the same.
The precision masteries gives her maximum 450 extra critical hit rating. For the R2 6*, the crit chance goes to 36.1%, ceteris paribus. For the R3 6*, the crit chance decreases to 35.9%, ceteris paribus. As both crit chance and crit damage multiplier decreases, so does your PI.
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If I remember rightly Miike confirmed that it’s due to the scaling of the levels and bascially you’ve put the champ back to level 1 by ranking up.
You obviously have another 34 levels to go so it will go higher than it was but that’s the way that champs scale so they are not crazily OP once they are ranked up/levelled up at the next rank and instead they increase at a rate that is proportional
But let's look at the core idea, that mastery dilution is responsible for the PI decrease. If that were the case, we'd expect to see it everywhere. So I randomly ranked up a champ, in this case 4* Iron Fist, from rank 3 to rank 4. When I ranked him from rank 3 30/30 to rank 4 1/40 his PI increased from 3034 to 3041. At the moment I have one point in pierce and five i precision, so my mastery bonus for critical rating is 450. Iron Fist's critical rating increased from 854 to 877. If we calculate his equal-CR critical rating with masteries it went from 40.7% to 40.5%. This is a similar decrease as calculated for 6* BWCV, so we'd expect to see a similar PI decrease, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
We can also look at an interesting extreme corner case. Corvus has zero base critical rating, so his critical rating doesn't go up with rank ups. I can rank up my 4* Corvus from rank 3 to rank 4. Of course his critical rating is zero in both cases, and his PI goes up from 3647 to 3653 when he goes from 3/30 to 4/1. That seems to be a similar PI increase as Iron Fist, so it does seem like critical rating dilution which would be proportionately different for Corvus than Iron Fist, isn't having a noticeable impact.
It is possible that the math between rank 2 and rank 3 for 6* champs is different, and this mastery dilution only kicks in there for some wonky reason (6* rank 2->3 scales differently than any other similar rank up jump), but the straight forward version of the idea doesn't seem to be visible.
Here’s the Wolverine explanation. Old forum quote format though.
This is the result of how their Health Curves work. Both of them have a fairly low amount of Health to compensate for their potential huge Regeneration abilities. Each Rank has its own curve, but for these two in particular, their health curve for each starts a little lower than than where it ended.
It was either this, or lower it all throughout, but I personally kind of like having them be a little bit more powerful while I get the Cats I need to take them up a Rank.