Every thing new falcon can cancel with recon.

Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
edited November 2020 in Strategy and Tips
Hi folks, I wanted to start a thread where people comment all the different nodes and abilities falcon is able to cancel out with recon scan these days.

This was mentioned in the spotlight, but worth repeating: he can negate evade (including mix master), thorns/spiked armor, and rock stacks.

Other things I have found him to cancel are: magik's limbo, immortal hulks immortality, the bleed part of bio hazard (them attacking you can still apply the poison, so be careful), og abominations poison, hela and punishers cheat death mechanic, medusa auto block, Morningstar bleeds, and electros interactive damage. Also he can prevent black panther civil war's armor ups, and keep him from gaining reflective armor charges. However, if he gains armor outside of recon, a newly applied recon will not prevent the stun reflection.

Things i have noticed he doesn't work on are: thor rag power gain counter, pessimist node, modok (Flux charge gives bonus ability accuracy), Phoenix's rite of the phoenix, any type of robotic healing at low health (i.e. hulkbuster, ultron, Gully 2099....), and Power from afar.

Things i havent tested, but think could yield results: killmonger reverberation, aa poison on block, scarlet witch's nonsense, old man logans bleeds, either wolverines regen, and gully 2099 invis.

Thanks in advance everyone. It is my goal that this turns into a community resource and increases everyone's knowledge of the new buffed up champ.

P.s. I am 99% certain falcon cancels immortal hulks immortality. I have done it several times (did not use sp1 to bleed him to death). However, 1 time it still triggered. Maybe recon scan ended a second too soon and I missed it, but if someone else could check this, I'd be grateful.
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  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 5,332 ★★★★★
    Anything that can proc when you hit the opponent.

    Force of will and increased ability accuracy throws a wrench in the works though.
  • Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
    edited November 2020

    This is a very useful list! Thanks! I only have a 2* Falcon so nothing to add but AA and OML are immune to AAR, so I don't think he would counter them.
    Also I don't think Pheonix's rite of the pheonix can be shut down by AAR at all, AA can't prevent it either even with like 5 neuros.

    thanks! i forgot they are immune to ability accuracy reduction. also i think you misread, phoenix's ability was in the "doesn't work" category. nothing can stop the phoenix force! ..... except for kabam making a really weak champion.
  • Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
    edited November 2020

    So far I have bypassed:

    Thing's Rockstacks
    MODOK autoblock
    Electro damage
    Korg thorns
    Nightcrawler evade
    Spiderverse evades
    Domino lucky, I think.
    Electra AA reduction
    Magik limbo has not took health from me
    Fantastic evade
    Mephisto regen
    Emma Frost inverted controls
    Killmonger reverb
    Mix master node
    If I think of anything else I will let you know

    you must have gotten lucky against modok, because his flux charge can add up to 25% ability accuracy. but it does drastically reduce the chance of activation. but its nice to know it cancels mephistos regen. any chance it also canceled his aura of incineration activation when you hit him?
  • Fluffy_pawsFluffy_paws Posts: 1,996 ★★★★★
    Cage33 said:

    This is a very useful list! Thanks! I only have a 2* Falcon so nothing to add but AA and OML are immune to AAR, so I don't think he would counter them.
    Also I don't think Pheonix's rite of the pheonix can be shut down by AAR at all, AA can't prevent it either even with like 5 neuros.

    thanks! i forgot they are immune to ability accuracy reduction. also i think you misread, phoenix's ability was in the "doesn't work" category. nothing can stop the phoenix force! ..... except for kabam making a really weak champion.
    Oops my bad! I did get it jumbled in the wrong list.
  • Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
    i just tested it against prof x's falter, and it does not work.
  • psp742psp742 Posts: 886 ★★★
    edited November 2020
    Just wondering does he need to be awaken or have high signature level for him to be effective? Is the ability for Falcon only or it benefits teammates?

    Thanks a bunch for the information.. it helps a lot.
  • Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
    psp742 said:

    Just wondering does he need to be awaken or have high signature level for him to be effective? Is the ability for Falcon only or it benefits teammates?

    Thanks a bunch for the information.. it helps a lot.

    His sig level makes recon last a bit longer, and gives him more crit rating during its activation. So it's nice to have and makes a big difference on damage output, but all the utility of the champ is there unawakened. Recon does not apply with other champs on the team. His synergies can affect the entire team however, and they all come with some bonus attack %.
  • udyedagainudyedagain Posts: 610 ★★★
    Cage33 said:

    So far I have bypassed:

    Thing's Rockstacks
    MODOK autoblock
    Electro damage
    Korg thorns
    Nightcrawler evade
    Spiderverse evades
    Domino lucky, I think.
    Electra AA reduction
    Magik limbo has not took health from me
    Fantastic evade
    Mephisto regen
    Emma Frost inverted controls
    Killmonger reverb
    Mix master node
    If I think of anything else I will let you know

    you must have gotten lucky against modok, because his flux charge can add up to 25% ability accuracy. but it does drastically reduce the chance of activation. but its nice to know it cancels mephistos regen. any chance it also canceled his aura of incineration activation when you hit him?
    No, his incinerate still activated
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 5,332 ★★★★★

    At the risk of being Disagreed to Hell for reviving this Thread, I have to add that Falcon prevents Ægon from gaining Fury and Black Bolt from gaining Fury and Cruelty when they're hit. He doesn't work against Sabretooth's Regen though.

    ST regen and fury ability accuracy is 170-220%. So -100% doesn't affect him.
  • ChikelChikel Posts: 1,096 ★★★
    HI_guys said:

    Cage33 said:

    i just tested it against prof x's falter, and it does not work.

    There's something with Miss that it can't be countered with AAR unless explicitly specified like Nick, Prof X and Magneto
    Doesn't Ghost's phasing fail against 5.2 Collector after some time?
  • GanuiGanui Posts: 11
    Dip u guys tested vs reflective stun /polka dot? Does it shut down the stun reflection and u can parry as long as recon is on?
  • Cage33Cage33 Posts: 32
    @Ganui i tested the reflective stun part of black panther civil wars abilities. i have not tested the node. against BPCW, it does not prevent the stun from returning if the armor up is already there. however, recon can prevent armor from popping up when you are hitting him, so its kinda works to counter him there. i have not tested polka dot either.
  • LyingninjaLyingninja Posts: 177
    Does he require dupe
  • gage201205gage201205 Posts: 469 ★★★
    He can get through biohazard and freezerburn mesmerize there's alot
  • I ran into one issue with falcons lock in ability against thing in the abyss. By the 3rd cycle it simple stops working and thing will continue to gain rock stacks while falcon is locked on. Not sure if it’s a bug or kabam changed it for abyss
  • GanuiGanui Posts: 11
    Does he shut down sixth sense too? He should right?
  • Primerprime5Primerprime5 Posts: 791 ★★★
    edited December 2020

    Does he require dupe

    No, but it does help. The dupe increases his Crit Rate while Locked On. I don't recommend spending an AG on him, wait for a natural dupe.
  • udyedagainudyedagain Posts: 610 ★★★
    I have him at max sig, dude is amazing. I constantly see all crits during a 5 hit combo. He is going to rank 5 soon. Even against non evade champs he hits hard.
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