Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
At the end, he was pressing sp3 like crazy and colossus keeps blocking. Happening to me more and more. It's like the special button keeps moving and I am pressing in the same spot by muscle memory.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Are you saying GCR has no utility? I’m lost at what you’re trying to prove here. I mean cool videos, I don’t have time to watch them all sorry.
I have all these champions maxed out, used daily. I know what they are capable of doing.
I didn't see utilty there like slow to deal with the nodes just dmg.
"Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." you're wrong is what im trying to prove
GCR has utility. Angela isn’t even immune to anything.
She only has damage, nothing else. Increasing the numbers for more damage will not make her anymore desirable then before.
Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here. Your skill? Cool dude well done. You didn’t use utility to take down a defender. Damn impressive. But CGR still has more overall then Angela.
"GCR has utility" that's cool but did aegon or cgr need utility to take out those hard bosses or did they overpower the need for utility with just their raw dmg?
"Again, not sure what you are trying to showcase here." There are situations where dmg can overtake the need for utilty if it's high enough, those bosses weren't easy btw
What you said before "Pure damage will NEVER beat utility in the end." is just wrong
You’re merely trying to showcase your own skill. Take Angela now into vs the 6.2.6 champion and solo him. If you don’t, the rest of your argument is for nothing.
Cause her damage isn't high enough. The point they're trying to put across is that in the face of high damage and no utility , high utility and low dmaage will lose
He’s showing beyond god tier champions when discussing bottom barrel champions. It doesn’t work. Comparing apples and oranges. Not possible.
She’s not going to take out capiw 6.3.6 after her buff. She can, and she can now. It’ll be a ton of work regardless when.
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
I’m still baffled why anyone mention KM as low damage. He’s even an option for Medusa on 6.3.1 🤷♂️. But he is a special kind of champion.
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
Honestly if you haven’t seen Kam’s latest Skill Showdown, it’s beautiful. Killmonger beating out a bunch of high damage champs despite being a ‘noodle’
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
Honestly if you haven’t seen Kam’s latest Skill Showdown, it’s beautiful. Killmonger beating out a bunch of high damage champs despite being a ‘noodle’
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
Honestly if you haven’t seen Kam’s latest Skill Showdown, it’s beautiful. Killmonger beating out a bunch of high damage champs despite being a ‘noodle’
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
Debating r2ing mine over another r5
Definitely worth it. My 6* was my first R2/R5 and I’ve never regretted it. Even took him up as my first R3, even unduped
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
Honestly if you haven’t seen Kam’s latest Skill Showdown, it’s beautiful. Killmonger beating out a bunch of high damage champs despite being a ‘noodle’
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
Debating r2ing mine over another r5
Definitely worth it. My 6* was my first R2/R5 and I’ve never regretted it. Even took him up as my first R3, even unduped
I’m probably gonna play him a bit more before finally deciding whether to r2 him or not
You can say that once you rank up someone with utility and meh damage like killmonger or Emma
Yup. Won’t be much different.
Pure damage will never beat utility in the end.
(Also. Emma’s damage is great what are you on about)
Can I just say, I don’t understand why people say KM has meh damage. I own a 6* KM myself, and he has about warlock level damage. It’s not the best, but he still gets fights done quick enough
Thank you! It’s not warlock level, but it’s more than at the point where it doesn’t feel slow. People are just too used to your CGR’s etc
Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
CGR is a very special situation in terms of damage honestly. Also what’s the highest crit you got with KM? (no nodes or boosts) I’ve gotten around 9700+ With my r1 so far, whereas when my warlock was r1, he sometimes got 11k heavies. Then again, my crit masteries are maxed
I’ve gotten about 27k on the last hit of the SP2 on my sig 40 R3 with suicides. A sig 200 could maybe do about 32-35k
That’s pretty high. Yet more proof he can do some heavy damage
Honestly if you haven’t seen Kam’s latest Skill Showdown, it’s beautiful. Killmonger beating out a bunch of high damage champs despite being a ‘noodle’
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
I just recently R5 my five star Killmonger and I never feel as though fights drag on unnecessarily long. He’s also one of the most tanky champs in the game. That indestructible comes in handy often.
Completely agreed. Fights have never felt slow to me. And the indestructible has saved me more times than I can count, not to mention it’s used in high power gain scenarios
CGR besides having one of the biggest damages in the game, it has usefulness and immunities, it is one of the most OP champions in the game. His S2 is the most incredible damage I've ever seen, kabam appealed too much to this champion.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit A suggestion to improve Angela, increase the bonus limit she can stack by hitting her opponent's critical attacks, so as not to get too strong, decreases the value of armor up, fury and aptitude. Example: Instead of just stacking 1 more bonus, it increases this value to 4, decreasing the value of each bonus, then it would leave her S3 with good damage.
Well this debate of utility vs. damage took a turn. Now she has both. Her armor breaks with buffs are going to supercharge her damage and her dot utility is potentially super strong. Can’t wait for this to go live.
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Kam just did a comparison of 6 Skill champs against LOL Red hulk, and Killmonger beat Elsa, Night Thrasher, Gwenpool, Stealthy and BWDO
It’s about Angela but you fail to showcase anything she can do. Lmao
She’s not going to take out capiw 6.3.6 after her buff. She can, and she can now. It’ll be a ton of work regardless when.
His damage isn’t crazy, but more than satisfactory, especially factoring in his utility
His S2 is the most incredible damage I've ever seen, kabam appealed too much to this champion.
A suggestion to improve Angela, increase the bonus limit she can stack by hitting her opponent's critical attacks, so as not to get too strong, decreases the value of armor up, fury and aptitude.
Example: Instead of just stacking 1 more bonus, it increases this value to 4, decreasing the value of each bonus, then it would leave her S3 with good damage.