A Small PSA to Those Who Are as Unhappy About the T3A and T6B as I Am

So I was incredibly unhappy this is how these were introduced. I would much rather have seen them first in 7.2. After the new boss. So I looked at the amount being sold. Then looked at the amount needed to r4 someone.

I was quite unhappy but also a little relieved.

Now my thinking is that July 4th will have about twice or three times what is in there offers. INCLUDING THE UNIT OFFERS.

Now it takes 3 T3A to r4 a 6* champion.

In today’s deals, there are 14,000 fragments.

So you get 14,000/135,000 needed frags today. Thats only about 10.4%. While that is about 10.4% more than i was hoping for, it isnt massive. Now on 4th of July, i am expecting about an additional 9000 frags in each odin and maybe 15k in the rank up part of the 10k.

Still only 56,000/135,000. It isnt incredibly game breaking.

You need 3 t6b for a r4.
There are 14,250 t6b frags in todays deals. That is 14,250/171,000 fragments. Thats a very small 8.3% of a r4. I strongly dislike that they are in the deals, but I can live with that. Now on 4th of July, I am expecting to see 1 half of a catalyst in the 10k rank up bundle.(Hopefully less, but realistically.) And in the Odin, i am expecting 14250 again in the odins. Or 10,000 or something.

Still barely a catalyst.

Obviously this is still a massive advantage.

But Kabam has been telling us the SOP is being released soon. So it leads me to wonder if that will have far more than the amount in these offers.

It is not uncommon for many companies including Kabam to release new stuff through a paywall.

So while this decision leaves a sour taste in my mouth, I expect them to even out the playing field. Whether it is through the SOP or another piece of large content.

Comments

Colinwhitworth69

Overreaction is the hallmark of social media.

DNA3000

What purpose would a r4 serve outside of prestige? This whole conversation is ridiculous. Kabam you can keep your r4 materials to yourself. The fact that there's people with 30 plus r3 champions already is wild to me.

At the very highest parts of the game? Tier 1 alliance war players will still take any advantage they can get either on offense or on defense. If an R4 defender causes one extra timeout, that could be decisive.

At the end of the day, most of the highest, strongest stuff in the game is not meant for the top tier players to beat up on content designed for mere mortals to tackle. It is first and foremost for competitive advantage where the players are beating up each other, either indirectly in AQ or less indirectly in AW. Eventually, just like with R3s, they'll be used by second and third tier players against content where that advantage is more meaningful.

But when you're talking about the bleeding edge of player progress, asking what purpose something serves besides prestige is missing the point of what the bleeding edge of player progress actually is. It isn't gauged against the content of the game, it is gauged against themselves against each other. It is always going to be that way, because the only thing that can challenge a top strength player with a top strength roster is another top strength player with another top strength roster. That's what incentivizes those players to push forward. If the rat race didn't engage them, they wouldn't be bleeding edge top progress players in the first place.

The people that must have everything first to compete with the other people who must have everything first subsidize the progress ladder for the rest of us, much like they did with big screen TVs.

the devs are in a bit of a bind here, I think they opened the floodgates on R3 too quickly in the first place, but having done so they are probably seeing the blowback of that decision in players thinking they are "overdue" for the next thing, and the next thing. I think the small amount of fragments released during Spring Cleaning are a way to try to look like they are progressing forward with R4s without actually having to release R4s to try to course correct that a bit.

Jahnybravo

Not once did I say no one was buying it bc that would be stupid. You did however say "all the whales" were which manages to be even more stupid. Speaking in absolutes like that about a group of people you don't even know anything about just makes you seem petty, bitter, and ridiculous.

honestly, they just made a generalized exaggerated statement, while you were the one that came in swinging petty, bitter, and ridiculous with your "omg i disagree so that makes you so incredibly stupid cause I'm so much better and I know more than you." every response you had screamed petty

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TheTalents

What purpose would a r4 serve outside of prestige? This whole conversation is ridiculous. Kabam you can keep your r4 materials to yourself. The fact that there's people with 30 plus r3 champions already is wild to me.
At the very highest parts of the game? Tier 1 alliance war players will still take any advantage they can get either on offense or on defense. If an R4 defender causes one extra timeout, that could be decisive.

At the end of the day, most of the highest, strongest stuff in the game is not meant for the top tier players to beat up on content designed for mere mortals to tackle. It is first and foremost for competitive advantage where the players are beating up each other, either indirectly in AQ or less indirectly in AW. Eventually, just like with R3s, they'll be used by second and third tier players against content where that advantage is more meaningful.

But when you're talking about the bleeding edge of player progress, asking what purpose something serves besides prestige is missing the point of what the bleeding edge of player progress actually is. It isn't gauged against the content of the game, it is gauged against themselves against each other. It is always going to be that way, because the only thing that can challenge a top strength player with a top strength roster is another top strength player with another top strength roster. That's what incentivizes those players to push forward. If the rat race didn't engage them, they wouldn't be bleeding edge top progress players in the first place.

The people that must have everything first to compete with the other people who must have everything first subsidize the progress ladder for the rest of us, much like they did with big screen TVs.

the devs are in a bit of a bind here, I think they opened the floodgates on R3 too quickly in the first place, but having done so they are probably seeing the blowback of that decision in players thinking they are "overdue" for the next thing, and the next thing. I think the small amount of fragments released during Spring Cleaning are a way to try to look like they are progressing forward with R4s without actually having to release R4s to try to course correct that a bit.

The people you're referring to are already at the top. R4 champions no matter how you dress it up is just more of the same. It adds no value at the moment. The competitive edge is already there, and artificially inflating your edge isn't going to keep working if you don't have the content to back that edge. You are seriously underestimating the competitive edge in the top alliances. All these whales aren't just collectors.

I'm not top 10% in the game but I'm certainly top 20% and I didn't even buy the rank 4 rank up offers and neither did @Worknprogress and he's top 1% in the game. My alliance is littered with 13k guys and nobody even talked about the offer besides saying "is this worth purchasing" lol. I'm sure some purchased it but at our level we all should've got it if it made sense.

TheTalents

I don't think r4's should be released anytime soon. As an end gamer I have 0 6 stars that are fully maxed out. Before we got r3 6 stars Majority of end game games and Cavalier players had a roster with 5 champs fully maxed out minimum. The same respect needs to be shown for r4 6 star champions. I heard someone had 40 r3 6 stars, if they get bored oh well. We shouldn't rush the game just for the Top 100 players.

Let's get end game content where r3 6 stars are useful and we need r4 champions to actually make the content easier. IF it comes before that time they won't mean anything and no I absolutely did no pick up that offer of r4 6 stars, for what?!?!??
This was exactly what prevented me grabbing an Odin for the class nexus crystals before the spring cleaning ended. I'm thinking who to target, who I want to R3 most and decided nobody since I have my most wanted 6* from the base pool R5 already, and I'm done all content besides abyss which doesn't really interest me. So what exactly would I even be paying for? I did spend some and got some new 6* from the normal nexus and held off on cats from the store because again, what am I rushing to rank them for?

Imo act 6 was a bit ahead of its time for all but the top percent of players, but with R5s galore for niche uses its actually aged quite well. Exploration seemed so unattainable at first for so many people (myself included) that it kind of just sat there so kabam nerfed it some in response and everything since hasn't come close to its difficulty. Now that so many more players have the ability to r5 situational champs the opposite is true, instead of content sitting too difficult to conquer rosters have totally outgrown any challenge and now there's nothing left to aspire to. Here's hoping for a 7.2 or something else to fill that gap of content to chip away at, I want to use all these champs I've built up for more than just steamrolling.

Yeah I'm hoping that at the very least with 7.2 its hard enough to feel the difference between using a 5 and 6 star and I don't mean using a 6 star makes it incredibly easy. I mean it actually makes a difference in life and death between fights.