Bishop looks like he will definitely be more fun to play!

GMAX77GMAX77 Member Posts: 512 ★★★
in General Discussion
When it comes to champ buffs, what we see on paper doesn't always translate to effective reality. In this case however, I think Bishop's buff may end up being the best out of the bunch.
«1

Comments

  • UnknownUnknown
    This content has been removed.
  • odishika123odishika123 Member Posts: 5,412 ★★★★★
    limeade32 said:

    Link?

    https://playcontestofchampions.com/champion-spotlight-bishop/
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    He looks decent. Great DDHK/Moleman/Kingpin counters with the passive stun when they purify the regular stun. I like the specials only cost bars when they end so you can finish a fight with an SP2 and then go into the next fight with an SP2 ready.

    Not going to say that the buff is "perfect" but this is a real good way to buff a champ.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,856 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    He looks decent. Great DDHK/Moleman/Kingpin counters with the passive stun when they purify the regular stun. I like the specials only cost bars when they end so you can finish a fight with an SP2 and then go into the next fight with an SP2 ready.

    Not going to say that the buff is "perfect" but this is a real good way to buff a champ.

    And now he can incinerate.
  • UnknownUnknown
    This content has been removed.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,856 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021
    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    Not really. It just slows his prowess gain a bit. He should still be fine for tech fights.

    edit: nevermind, thought you were referring to using him as an attacker against tech, not fighting him in AQ.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,450 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
  • TrashyPandaTrashyPanda Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    I don't know enough about Bishop to judge, but if I pulled the 6* I'd be happy with it.

    Another strong mutant, lol. Welp.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    I guess it'll just have to be Ghosted for the most part. Or power locked with Magik.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,450 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    I guess it'll just have to be Ghosted for the most part. Or power locked with Magik.
    Yeah the counters have reduced for sure. I feel that's kind of silly, but what can we do.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    Yeah, you can lock down his power and deal constant energy damage with limbo so he goes above 30 prowesses, and starts to degen helplessly from his abilities.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    Yeah, you can lock down his power and deal constant energy damage with limbo so he goes above 30 prowesses, and starts to degen helplessly from his abilities.
    He won't degen anymore. When he goes above 30 prowess he'll deal damage to you.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,371 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    Yeah, you can lock down his power and deal constant energy damage with limbo so he goes above 30 prowesses, and starts to degen helplessly from his abilities.
    He won't degen anymore. When he goes above 30 prowess he'll deal damage to you.
    Only if he’s bleeding, shocked, or incinerated. His damage to the opponent in overload is conditional.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    Yeah, you can lock down his power and deal constant energy damage with limbo so he goes above 30 prowesses, and starts to degen helplessly from his abilities.
    He won't degen anymore. When he goes above 30 prowess he'll deal damage to you.
    Only if he’s bleeding, shocked, or incinerated. His damage to the opponent in overload is conditional.
    Ah yeah good catch. I wonder if he'll degen then since I didn't see it mentioned?
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Wicket329 said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    Yeah, you can lock down his power and deal constant energy damage with limbo so he goes above 30 prowesses, and starts to degen helplessly from his abilities.
    He won't degen anymore. When he goes above 30 prowess he'll deal damage to you.
    Only if he’s bleeding, shocked, or incinerated. His damage to the opponent in overload is conditional.
    Ah yeah good catch. I wonder if he'll degen then since I didn't see it mentioned?
    Nope, as far as I can tell his prowesses will just fall off down to 30. No punishment to either combatant, which I’m ultimately okay with.

    One of my least favorite things about current Bishop was that he’d rather kill himself than put up the big numbers he was clearly designed for. I’ll happily trade the cheese tactics for a usable character.
    I agree. I look forward to giving him a try when the new update is out.
  • LibertyPrimeV1LibertyPrimeV1 Member Posts: 4,179 ★★★★★
    Seems very unlikely but I noticed his Synergies still aren't Classified as Unique Synergies, wonder if he can still Stack them like he used to.
    I'd be shocked if that wasn't changed though seeing as the Synergies themselves got Upgraded.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,371 ★★★★★
    LibertyPrimeV1 said:

    Seems very unlikely but I noticed his Synergies still aren't Classified as Unique Synergies, wonder if he can still Stack them like he used to.
    I'd be shocked if that wasn't changed though seeing as the Synergies themselves got Upgraded.

    I think he’s supposed to be able to stack them. You can build a team so that he just starts every fight at three bars of power if you want, but unfortunately that team’s gonna suck pretty badly. Although Bishop, Storm, Storm, Storm, Apoc might be fun
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,992 Guardian
    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    ItsDamien said:

    KnightZero said:

    Not going to be fun facing him in AQ now lol.

    I mean... bring a tech and that basically shuts him down.
    It's the fact that it has the node that reduces your block proficiency and gives extra power to him. So if he spams Sp1, you can't stay near him or you'll get incinerate debuffs. And you can't parry him since you take additional block damage. Can't cheese him anymore since the overload part has been redone. Obviously there will be methods, but he'll be harder for sure.
    Kill_Grey said:

    Great... The Doom cheese is gone. Seems the magik cheese still works perfectly tho. It's a great buff regardless.

    Magik cheese?
    I guess it'll just have to be Ghosted for the most part. Or power locked with Magik.
    cannot be magiked. Because he will overload and kill you.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,979 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021
    Wicket329 said:

    LibertyPrimeV1 said:

    Seems very unlikely but I noticed his Synergies still aren't Classified as Unique Synergies, wonder if he can still Stack them like he used to.
    I'd be shocked if that wasn't changed though seeing as the Synergies themselves got Upgraded.

    I think he’s supposed to be able to stack them. You can build a team so that he just starts every fight at three bars of power if you want, but unfortunately that team’s gonna suck pretty badly. Although Bishop, Storm, Storm, Storm, Apoc might be fun
    That'll be a bit crazy.
    Throw an SP3 in the first second, giving them permanent Energy Vulnerability; plus having Steady Release running if you're Awakened.
    Ouch!

    Looking forward to trying it out - they've also made him partially effective against Techs, at least; instead of being completely neutered. Looks good...
Sign In or Register to comment.