Corvus is valued because he requires literally no skill to play, and makes basically every path in aq up to map 6 and a solid chunk of map 7 an absolute joke. To say that he’s only valued for timing out is just stupid, and if you think his charges limit him in some way, you probably don’t have an r3 with suicides
-The man who beat 6.1 cross bones using Corvus and 3-4 revives
I think it’s fair to say that the Cosmic Class has added another top tier champ that sits somewhere between Medusa and (insert your personal submission for #1 Cosmic).
I think it’s fair to say that the Cosmic Class has added another top tier champ that sits somewhere between Medusa and (insert your personal submission for #1 Cosmic).
I suppose that’s all it really comes down to anyway. Personal preference. I personally still enjoy hyperion more than hercules but i do think hercules is the better champ overall. People will disagree every time someone says a new champ is better than one of the insane OGS, but there’s gameplay out there proving hunkules value.
Can't say he is the best Cosmic for now as in Video his immortality ability was shown specifically and if there would have been Corvus,he could have done those fights as well,same can be said about any top tier champs like Nick,Magneto,etc. So definitely he is a great addition to Cosmic class and looks very promising but I'll hold my opinion for few months.
@ChaosMax1012 I thoroughly enjoyed your write up so dont worry what others say. Did you gloss over CGR and Hype? Sure. But it sounds like you absolutely love Herc and provided valid points of why you feel that way.
@ChaosMax1012 I thoroughly enjoyed your write up so dont worry what others say. Did you gloss over CGR and Hype? Sure. But it sounds like you absolutely love Herc and provided valid points of why you feel that way.
I'm with it bro!
Thanks. I already saw the disagree wave coming, and I understand why. New champion being claimed as the top of their class is a bold claim, but seeing the champ in action is what made me a believer.
He puts the CGR, corvus, and hyperion debate to rest. I truly think he is the best cosmic champion (awakened) with his utility and high damage output.
Corvus has crits and immortality, hercules does too, however hercules can tank an sp1 or sp2 unlike corvus. Corvus requires ramp up for his damage, which hercules does in 1 fight.
CGR has an insanely high damage output, but if hercules walked into a fight fully ramped up, i think he could be faster. If not their damage output isn’t too far apart.
Hyperion isn’t available as a 6* unfortunately, but Hercules outdamages him anyway. Hyperion isn’t ideal to run suicides with but hercules is great regardless, and benefits from suicides, along with any other hero on the team with him with his solo synergy. Hyperion does have insane power gain though, along with some decent regen. Most certainly puts up a fight.
Hercules can counter miss/autoblock by activating his sp1, which is active for a fairly long time. He can also tank an sp3 by throwing his special 3 beforehand, activating an indestructible buff for 4 seconds. He is also practically stun immune in exchange for a feat of strength per stun debuff, which can be gained back with ease. Also has a nice infuriate debuff reducing the opponents OAA by 60%, making him not only a good attacker, but an annoying defender to go along with his stun immunity if knocked down. He’s also unblockable when immortal, which allows the player to be as aggressive as possible. All of this tied together makes for an insane champion, that can burst through many matchups regardless of how much health he has remaining. I’m usually not a fan of the cosmic class debates but, i think hercules won this one.
If your argument consists of stating one champion's utility but completely ignoring that of others, you can even make Ghost look inferior to Groot. Don't get me wrong, Hercules is great, but your argument is not. Good day.
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Because she isn't in the running for number 1. Hype is poison immune, herc has a good indestructible mechanic for sp3s, Hercu is suicides friendly and ends most fights with an sp2. She's a good champion, just not number 1 no matter your opinion.
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Because she isn't in the running for number 1. Hype is poison immune, herc has a good indestructible mechanic for sp3s, Hercu is suicides friendly and ends most fights with an sp2. She's a good champion, just not number 1 no matter your opinion.
How is Hercs indestructible better than CMM? It’s shorter, less applicable and less easy to obtain
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Because she isn't in the running for number 1. Hype is poison immune, herc has a good indestructible mechanic for sp3s, Hercu is suicides friendly and ends most fights with an sp2. She's a good champion, just not number 1 no matter your opinion.
How is Hercs indestructible better than CMM? It’s shorter, less applicable and less easy to obtain
That's what I am confused about. Her indestructible is better in most circumstances. In any matchup where obtaining power is difficult or not desirable, hercs indestructible is not possible and his immortality also takes a big hit since you need to bait specials, wasting time. CMM can get to indestructible with just parry. In that particular mechanic, CMM clearly is better.
Tbh if we are objectively speaking, Sentry is the best cosmic.
We all know that what makes someone the top cosmic is their indestructible/cheat death ability and Sentry has an amazing sig which pretty much gives indestructible whenever you get hit at max sig. This is easily better than Corvus' because it's not affect by specials, if you DOT on you, just get hit. It's better than CMM's because it is a passive and so works against mystics and it's better than Hercules cuz you can get pretty much get it whenever you want and as many times as you want and you only need to do a few hits to get it again.
Not too mention he has fury and regen buffs and armor break and unblockable, all of which are trademarks of cosmic champ.
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Corvus vs CMM. Think we know the answer to that one. Also i said hype isn’t ideal with suicides, never said he wasn’t suicide friendly. Hercules benefits from it.
Just curious why CMM was ignored here. She is poison immune, has a good indestructible mechanic which is fairly long. Can tank sp3 when indestructible and also suicide friendly mostly because most fights end with 1 sp2. Also, curious why you mention Hyperion is not suicide friendly when he can simply spam heavy and sp3 the whole fight without taking recoil damage.
Because she isn't in the running for number 1. Hype is poison immune, herc has a good indestructible mechanic for sp3s, Hercu is suicides friendly and ends most fights with an sp2. She's a good champion, just not number 1 no matter your opinion.
How is Hercs indestructible better than CMM? It’s shorter, less applicable and less easy to obtain
That's what I am confused about. Her indestructible is better in most circumstances. In any matchup where obtaining power is difficult or not desirable, hercs indestructible is not possible and his immortality also takes a big hit since you need to bait specials, wasting time. CMM can get to indestructible with just parry. In that particular mechanic, CMM clearly is better.
Her indestructible is most certainly better. Also you’re talking about a scenario where you’re immortal but the opponent is at their sp2 and not throwing it. Hercules infuriate debuff makes the AI more aggressive, forcing their hand to throw their special or medium. Do ya research.
I think the disagrees and other comments speak for the communities opinion on Hercules being the best cosmic but I’d like to add something about Hercules vs CGR. I’m not sure if you’ve ever played CGR but he does both short and long fights faster than Hercules. He’s also got a lot of utility including his immunities and everything that happens when he activated his fifth unique buff. Hercules only utility is his immunity. That makes every champion you mentioned beat him in utility.
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Name another Cosmic that can do/has done all three of those things.
Air-Walker > Literally Everyone
- Can place massive poisons and armour breaks
- Gets regen AND fury, precisely when you need them most
- Bleed immune
-Can access unstoppable
- Nullifies 4, yes FOUR buffs on his SP2 and has a 15% chance to nullify on contact
- Chill dude who literally just wants everyone to be happy
- Great listener
- Brings his own sludgy bottle
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Doom:
- Has worse immunities
- Can’t regen
- Can’t access Poison or armour break or unstoppable
- only nullifies 3 buffs off his SP1
- SP1 hits as hard as I do
- Trips over Cape constantly
- Narcissistic egoist who kills the good vibes
- Edgy teenager getup
- May attempt to subjugate your family
After weighing up the pros and cons, I know which one I would want to have over for a small gathering
-The man who beat 6.1 cross bones using Corvus and 3-4 revives
So definitely he is a great addition to Cosmic class and looks very promising but I'll hold my opinion for few months.
I'm with it bro!
We all know that what makes someone the top cosmic is their indestructible/cheat death ability and Sentry has an amazing sig which pretty much gives indestructible whenever you get hit at max sig. This is easily better than Corvus' because it's not affect by specials, if you DOT on you, just get hit. It's better than CMM's because it is a passive and so works against mystics and it's better than Hercules cuz you can get pretty much get it whenever you want and as many times as you want and you only need to do a few hits to get it again.
Not too mention he has fury and regen buffs and armor break and unblockable, all of which are trademarks of cosmic champ.