Should Cavalier be "split"?

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    edited August 2021
    Ignore this, abyss of approval post
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

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    Searmenis said:

    Honestly if ur not TB by the end of SOP then ur doing something wrong 👍

    B-U-G-S!
    Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make your bad point good all of a sudden.
    And why is my point bad? Have you tried to complete 6.4 with 2-3 screen freezes in each and every fight?
    Where did 6.4 come into this? The point was about Summer of Pain, you said you couldn’t do it cause Bugs, and then you bring up 6.4.

    If you’re a later Cav trying to get TB, the only piece of temporary content you should struggle with is SoP. As a later Cav, the EQ won’t be as hard. If it is, then you’re not a later Cav. So do SoP, Kabam have explicitly said you will get compensation in the form of revives.

    Bugs make it harder yes, and I have been KOd because of bugs in SoP. But I tried again, and again, until I got good runs. You have unlimited tries over a week, 0 energy cost. And even without soloing you can get a good run and go from there with the revives you’re going to get from compensation.

    At this point, if Cavs aren’t going for SoP to get TB it says more about the player, than the content.
    To become TB, you need two things: complete Act 6 and get a r3 6*, yes? I do have one r3 6* (so I don't really needed SoP to get the rewards for that), I also do 100% cav EQ every month (with revives) and I got all SoP fights done except for Mysterio. But progression-wise I m stuck in Act 6.4 because of parry/screen freezes/AI intercept and so on, bugs. I don't want to pay to get units for revives, so I m stuck, not being able to go for TB at the moment. Am I the most skilled player? No, but I get things done, with a few revives or not, depending of the day. Usually. Now I need, like maany other players, at least double the resources to get through a hard path. Why is this so difficult to understand?
    Kabam aren’t forcing you to do act 6, in fact they advised the opposite.

    I totally agree. That's why I stopped trying. And that's the reason someone can't be a TB. I was answering to all this "if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless" nonsense.
    But if you already have a rank 3 then that’s not really relevant to “ if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless”

    The entire point is, SoP provides such an incredibly easy opportunity to become TB for Cav, (as in, easy relative to 75% of a selector), and your counter point is, No it’s not because Im stuck on act 6?

    How is that relevant?
    6.4 is my problem. SoP may be someone else's, I was lucky enough not encountering any significant lags while playing these fights. Many other people did, and couldn't complete most of the fights as far as I know, so no TB for them either, because of, well, the bugs.
    But that’s the thing, you can grind arena, you can farm revives and you can use the ones you already have, full well in the knowledge that you’ll be compensated.

    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.
    I agree with the unlimited attempts, but as I said before in another thread, time is a luxury for some people, and they can only play X hours/day the game. As for Act 6, obviously after the bug is fixed (in a few weeks? lol, too optimistic there) they/we can complete it. But not before.
    Putting aside an hour can get you anywhere from 20-30 attempts at a fight. (More if it’s going badly lol) That’s not hard to fit in during a week. Do that a couple times and then you’ve practiced a ton. Wait until you get a good run then revive if you need to.

    Again, Act 6 will be there for you waiting.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,702 Guardian
    Kerneas said:

    I understand I was wrong, thanks everyone for your inputs.

    However there is one thing I wish to correct myself about:

    When I said "5*/6* matter/don't matter", I meant new pulls. Atm, I have all the 5* champs I want with one exception: Ægon. My rankup list now focuses on 6*s and I have no intention to r5 any more 5* beyond the 15 or so I have already. Pretty much any pull from 5* crystal doesn't change a thing. I still use all the 5/65 champs I have, but I don't intend to rank up any other champ, as I have pretty much every area of the game covered w my 5*s and the holes I have will soon be filled w my 6*s.

    This is not directly a function of progress tier, it is more a function of overall playtime. If you are a player that progresses through the story content quickly, you are unlikely to have a well-developed 5* roster by the time you complete it. You could be a late Cav or even early TB with a very thin 5* roster. Such a player would not be capable of focusing exclusively on 6* champs without crippling their roster, because they simply wouldn't have enough champs. A player who progresses slower would have more time to expand their roster, so that by the time they become late Cav or early TB they are much more likely to be shifting attention towards 6* champs and away from 5* champs.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,640 ★★★★★

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Honestly if ur not TB by the end of SOP then ur doing something wrong 👍

    B-U-G-S!
    Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make your bad point good all of a sudden.
    And why is my point bad? Have you tried to complete 6.4 with 2-3 screen freezes in each and every fight?
    Where did 6.4 come into this? The point was about Summer of Pain, you said you couldn’t do it cause Bugs, and then you bring up 6.4.

    If you’re a later Cav trying to get TB, the only piece of temporary content you should struggle with is SoP. As a later Cav, the EQ won’t be as hard. If it is, then you’re not a later Cav. So do SoP, Kabam have explicitly said you will get compensation in the form of revives.

    Bugs make it harder yes, and I have been KOd because of bugs in SoP. But I tried again, and again, until I got good runs. You have unlimited tries over a week, 0 energy cost. And even without soloing you can get a good run and go from there with the revives you’re going to get from compensation.

    At this point, if Cavs aren’t going for SoP to get TB it says more about the player, than the content.
    To become TB, you need two things: complete Act 6 and get a r3 6*, yes? I do have one r3 6* (so I don't really needed SoP to get the rewards for that), I also do 100% cav EQ every month (with revives) and I got all SoP fights done except for Mysterio. But progression-wise I m stuck in Act 6.4 because of parry/screen freezes/AI intercept and so on, bugs. I don't want to pay to get units for revives, so I m stuck, not being able to go for TB at the moment. Am I the most skilled player? No, but I get things done, with a few revives or not, depending of the day. Usually. Now I need, like maany other players, at least double the resources to get through a hard path. Why is this so difficult to understand?
    Kabam aren’t forcing you to do act 6, in fact they advised the opposite.

    I totally agree. That's why I stopped trying. And that's the reason someone can't be a TB. I was answering to all this "if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless" nonsense.
    But if you already have a rank 3 then that’s not really relevant to “ if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless”

    The entire point is, SoP provides such an incredibly easy opportunity to become TB for Cav, (as in, easy relative to 75% of a selector), and your counter point is, No it’s not because Im stuck on act 6?

    How is that relevant?
    6.4 is my problem. SoP may be someone else's, I was lucky enough not encountering any significant lags while playing these fights. Many other people did, and couldn't complete most of the fights as far as I know, so no TB for them either, because of, well, the bugs.
    But that’s the thing, you can grind arena, you can farm revives and you can use the ones you already have, full well in the knowledge that you’ll be compensated.

    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.
    I agree with the unlimited attempts, but as I said before in another thread, time is a luxury for some people, and they can only play X hours/day the game. As for Act 6, obviously after the bug is fixed (in a few weeks? lol, too optimistic there) they/we can complete it. But not before.
    Putting aside an hour can get you anywhere from 20-30 attempts at a fight. (More if it’s going badly lol) That’s not hard to fit in during a week. Do that a couple times and then you’ve practiced a ton. Wait until you get a good run then revive if you need to.

    Again, Act 6 will be there for you waiting.
    Adding arena grinding to get revives, that's more than 3 hours daily.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Honestly if ur not TB by the end of SOP then ur doing something wrong 👍

    B-U-G-S!
    Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make your bad point good all of a sudden.
    And why is my point bad? Have you tried to complete 6.4 with 2-3 screen freezes in each and every fight?
    Where did 6.4 come into this? The point was about Summer of Pain, you said you couldn’t do it cause Bugs, and then you bring up 6.4.

    If you’re a later Cav trying to get TB, the only piece of temporary content you should struggle with is SoP. As a later Cav, the EQ won’t be as hard. If it is, then you’re not a later Cav. So do SoP, Kabam have explicitly said you will get compensation in the form of revives.

    Bugs make it harder yes, and I have been KOd because of bugs in SoP. But I tried again, and again, until I got good runs. You have unlimited tries over a week, 0 energy cost. And even without soloing you can get a good run and go from there with the revives you’re going to get from compensation.

    At this point, if Cavs aren’t going for SoP to get TB it says more about the player, than the content.
    To become TB, you need two things: complete Act 6 and get a r3 6*, yes? I do have one r3 6* (so I don't really needed SoP to get the rewards for that), I also do 100% cav EQ every month (with revives) and I got all SoP fights done except for Mysterio. But progression-wise I m stuck in Act 6.4 because of parry/screen freezes/AI intercept and so on, bugs. I don't want to pay to get units for revives, so I m stuck, not being able to go for TB at the moment. Am I the most skilled player? No, but I get things done, with a few revives or not, depending of the day. Usually. Now I need, like maany other players, at least double the resources to get through a hard path. Why is this so difficult to understand?
    Kabam aren’t forcing you to do act 6, in fact they advised the opposite.

    I totally agree. That's why I stopped trying. And that's the reason someone can't be a TB. I was answering to all this "if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless" nonsense.
    But if you already have a rank 3 then that’s not really relevant to “ if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless”

    The entire point is, SoP provides such an incredibly easy opportunity to become TB for Cav, (as in, easy relative to 75% of a selector), and your counter point is, No it’s not because Im stuck on act 6?

    How is that relevant?
    6.4 is my problem. SoP may be someone else's, I was lucky enough not encountering any significant lags while playing these fights. Many other people did, and couldn't complete most of the fights as far as I know, so no TB for them either, because of, well, the bugs.
    But that’s the thing, you can grind arena, you can farm revives and you can use the ones you already have, full well in the knowledge that you’ll be compensated.

    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.
    I agree with the unlimited attempts, but as I said before in another thread, time is a luxury for some people, and they can only play X hours/day the game. As for Act 6, obviously after the bug is fixed (in a few weeks? lol, too optimistic there) they/we can complete it. But not before.
    Putting aside an hour can get you anywhere from 20-30 attempts at a fight. (More if it’s going badly lol) That’s not hard to fit in during a week. Do that a couple times and then you’ve practiced a ton. Wait until you get a good run then revive if you need to.

    Again, Act 6 will be there for you waiting.
    Adding arena grinding to get revives, that's more than 3 hours daily.
    Firstly - you could do 2 hours a week and get plenty of units

    Secondly - it’s almost like getting TB requires effort?
  • DiplodocusDiplodocus Member Posts: 234 ★★★



    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.

    Yes surely they can do act 6 in few weeks but would the SOP objectives which they are loosing for not being TB come back along with the rewards after few weeks?
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    Cav isn’t where the gap is, that’s tb, there’s plenty of T5cc available in content no harder than act 6 completion to get you to tb
  • Erin_2099Erin_2099 Member Posts: 61
    This seems like a bunch of cav players that had mercs run there progression and now cant progress again lol cry cry cry stop whining n do content arena grind for units and farm revives like the rest of us had to do. Hate when people want everthing for nothing.
  • Monk1Monk1 Member Posts: 758 ★★★★
    The issue is TB should of always been locked behind 100% Act 6… but Kabam bottled it as so many people moaned about the content being too hard.

    Hence why we have 2 very similar titles for TB and 100% act 6…

  • Zeroj2kZeroj2k Member Posts: 146
    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Honestly if ur not TB by the end of SOP then ur doing something wrong 👍

    B-U-G-S!
    Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make your bad point good all of a sudden.
    And why is my point bad? Have you tried to complete 6.4 with 2-3 screen freezes in each and every fight?
    Where did 6.4 come into this? The point was about Summer of Pain, you said you couldn’t do it cause Bugs, and then you bring up 6.4.

    If you’re a later Cav trying to get TB, the only piece of temporary content you should struggle with is SoP. As a later Cav, the EQ won’t be as hard. If it is, then you’re not a later Cav. So do SoP, Kabam have explicitly said you will get compensation in the form of revives.

    Bugs make it harder yes, and I have been KOd because of bugs in SoP. But I tried again, and again, until I got good runs. You have unlimited tries over a week, 0 energy cost. And even without soloing you can get a good run and go from there with the revives you’re going to get from compensation.

    At this point, if Cavs aren’t going for SoP to get TB it says more about the player, than the content.
    To become TB, you need two things: complete Act 6 and get a r3 6*, yes? I do have one r3 6* (so I don't really needed SoP to get the rewards for that), I also do 100% cav EQ every month (with revives) and I got all SoP fights done except for Mysterio. But progression-wise I m stuck in Act 6.4 because of parry/screen freezes/AI intercept and so on, bugs. I don't want to pay to get units for revives, so I m stuck, not being able to go for TB at the moment. Am I the most skilled player? No, but I get things done, with a few revives or not, depending of the day. Usually. Now I need, like maany other players, at least double the resources to get through a hard path. Why is this so difficult to understand?
    Kabam aren’t forcing you to do act 6, in fact they advised the opposite.

    I totally agree. That's why I stopped trying. And that's the reason someone can't be a TB. I was answering to all this "if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless" nonsense.
    But if you already have a rank 3 then that’s not really relevant to “ if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless”

    The entire point is, SoP provides such an incredibly easy opportunity to become TB for Cav, (as in, easy relative to 75% of a selector), and your counter point is, No it’s not because Im stuck on act 6?

    How is that relevant?
    6.4 is my problem. SoP may be someone else's, I was lucky enough not encountering any significant lags while playing these fights. Many other people did, and couldn't complete most of the fights as far as I know, so no TB for them either, because of, well, the bugs.
    But that’s the thing, you can grind arena, you can farm revives and you can use the ones you already have, full well in the knowledge that you’ll be compensated.

    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.
    I agree with the unlimited attempts, but as I said before in another thread, time is a luxury for some people, and they can only play X hours/day the game. As for Act 6, obviously after the bug is fixed (in a few weeks? lol, too optimistic there) they/we can complete it. But not before.
    Putting aside an hour can get you anywhere from 20-30 attempts at a fight. (More if it’s going badly lol) That’s not hard to fit in during a week. Do that a couple times and then you’ve practiced a ton. Wait until you get a good run then revive if you need to.

    Again, Act 6 will be there for you waiting.
    Adding arena grinding to get revives, that's more than 3 hours daily.
    All i hear is excuses .....

    since July i have initial cleared 6.3, 6.4, 7.1 and working on 7.2 - Yesterday i took HT to R3
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    There should be no cavaliers focussing exclusively on 6*. This is why we get so many people complaining about difficulty. People need to widen their rosters and that comes through having a lot of 5* at max sig and R5 to handle the various niche counters in the game.

    Once all of that is covered, which at the rate resources come in, most players should be comfortably TB, then the focus can shift to exclusively being 6*.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,640 ★★★★★
    Zeroj2k said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Searmenis said:

    Honestly if ur not TB by the end of SOP then ur doing something wrong 👍

    B-U-G-S!
    Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t make your bad point good all of a sudden.
    And why is my point bad? Have you tried to complete 6.4 with 2-3 screen freezes in each and every fight?
    Where did 6.4 come into this? The point was about Summer of Pain, you said you couldn’t do it cause Bugs, and then you bring up 6.4.

    If you’re a later Cav trying to get TB, the only piece of temporary content you should struggle with is SoP. As a later Cav, the EQ won’t be as hard. If it is, then you’re not a later Cav. So do SoP, Kabam have explicitly said you will get compensation in the form of revives.

    Bugs make it harder yes, and I have been KOd because of bugs in SoP. But I tried again, and again, until I got good runs. You have unlimited tries over a week, 0 energy cost. And even without soloing you can get a good run and go from there with the revives you’re going to get from compensation.

    At this point, if Cavs aren’t going for SoP to get TB it says more about the player, than the content.
    To become TB, you need two things: complete Act 6 and get a r3 6*, yes? I do have one r3 6* (so I don't really needed SoP to get the rewards for that), I also do 100% cav EQ every month (with revives) and I got all SoP fights done except for Mysterio. But progression-wise I m stuck in Act 6.4 because of parry/screen freezes/AI intercept and so on, bugs. I don't want to pay to get units for revives, so I m stuck, not being able to go for TB at the moment. Am I the most skilled player? No, but I get things done, with a few revives or not, depending of the day. Usually. Now I need, like maany other players, at least double the resources to get through a hard path. Why is this so difficult to understand?
    Kabam aren’t forcing you to do act 6, in fact they advised the opposite.

    I totally agree. That's why I stopped trying. And that's the reason someone can't be a TB. I was answering to all this "if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless" nonsense.
    But if you already have a rank 3 then that’s not really relevant to “ if you cavs can't be a TB after SoP, you re worthless”

    The entire point is, SoP provides such an incredibly easy opportunity to become TB for Cav, (as in, easy relative to 75% of a selector), and your counter point is, No it’s not because Im stuck on act 6?

    How is that relevant?
    6.4 is my problem. SoP may be someone else's, I was lucky enough not encountering any significant lags while playing these fights. Many other people did, and couldn't complete most of the fights as far as I know, so no TB for them either, because of, well, the bugs.
    But that’s the thing, you can grind arena, you can farm revives and you can use the ones you already have, full well in the knowledge that you’ll be compensated.

    So anyone who’s blaming the bug for not being able to do 9 fights which have unlimited attempts and 0 energy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. And anyone who is blaming the bug for not being able to do act 6 doesn’t realise you can do act 6 in a few weeks when the bug is (hopefully) fixed.
    I agree with the unlimited attempts, but as I said before in another thread, time is a luxury for some people, and they can only play X hours/day the game. As for Act 6, obviously after the bug is fixed (in a few weeks? lol, too optimistic there) they/we can complete it. But not before.
    Putting aside an hour can get you anywhere from 20-30 attempts at a fight. (More if it’s going badly lol) That’s not hard to fit in during a week. Do that a couple times and then you’ve practiced a ton. Wait until you get a good run then revive if you need to.

    Again, Act 6 will be there for you waiting.
    Adding arena grinding to get revives, that's more than 3 hours daily.
    All i hear is excuses .....

    since July i have initial cleared 6.3, 6.4, 7.1 and working on 7.2 - Yesterday i took HT to R3
    How did you managed to beat Medusa 6.3.1 without parry?
  • Zeroj2kZeroj2k Member Posts: 146
    No just move up to thronebreaker
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,640 ★★★★★
    Zeroj2k said:

    No just move up to thronebreaker

    That's not an answer
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