**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Please extend 30 minutes timers for the holidays

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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    Sarcasm.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Not participating in section 3 if the map gets cleared doesn't hurt anyone. Yes, that's true. We want the map cleared lol. If it's cleared while some are sleeping that's fine. And again, 1/2 hour timers have always allowed more involvement for our international players, not less. @GroundedWisdom it's shocking that you are defending the Kabam position against the vast majority of the player base though... oh wait, no it isn't.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    Not participating in section 3 if the map gets cleared doesn't hurt anyone. Yes, that's true. We want the map cleared lol. If it's cleared while some are sleeping that's fine. And again, 1/2 hour timers have always allowed more involvement for our international players, not less.

    So it doesn't matter if people play the game and contribute, gaining experience and growing from a team challenge, as long as the Map is cleared. Interesting theory. Wrong, but interesting.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    No, we have people all over the world and they can't contribute to every section because of time zones. But they all contribute. When we have 1/2 hour timers an amazing thing happens though, those international players get to contribute to all 3 sections in a way they usually can't. No one minds that they can't normally because the contribution is real in any case. You are simply wrong in every way in which it's possible to be wrong.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    And yes, if people are sleeping during section 3 and it gets cleared with no items (which is every time) then it's all good.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    No, we have people all over the world and they can't contribute to every section because of time zones. But they all contribute. When we have 1/2 hour timers an amazing thing happens though, those international players get to contribute to all 3 sections in a way they usually can't. No one minds that they can't normally because the contribution is real in any case. You are simply wrong in every way in which it's possible to be wrong.

    No. I'm not at all actually. AQ is for all Players. All levels and Maps, all Time Zones. People have varying times of availability with different schedules, playing different Maps. All Players are combined. Excluding some from being able to participate is not acceptable just because some want to finish Maps 5 and 6 faster. You see it as best for everyone because it's what you want. That doesn't mean it's best for everyone.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    And 1/2 hour timers literally allow more flexibly for every single player. Some may artificially make it harder but the flexibility is real, and your wrongness is equally real lol
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    As wrong as it's possible to be.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    That could become a thing. How wrong are you? Grounded Wisdom Wrong!
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    That'll probably get me jailed but I don't care lol.
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    CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Give them half hour timers along with half the rewards, half the points, half the time to complete it and half the cost to start the map.

    AQ is designed around hour timers over a 24 hour period. The same tired arguments are not going to change anything, enjoy the futility of the discussion.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    @CoatHang3r! The circle is complete! It doesn't matter if 1/2 hour timers work better for more players it was "designed" for one hour so that must be better.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    Artificially make it harder? What? Lol. Seriously. You're entitled to your view. I would suggest looking past the blinders.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    Yes, @GroundedWisdom the only people that don't like 1/2 hour timers are people that think they half to login more thus not benefiting from more flexibility and artificially making it more stressful when it's objectively less stressful. LOL. Seriously. Do you have an actual counter example that would show that 1/2 hour timers don't allow every player more flexibility?
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    CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    @CoatHang3r! The circle is complete! It doesn't matter if 1/2 hour timers work better for more players it was "designed" for one hour so that must be better.
    30 minutes timers certainly do make it easier for more players. One hour is part of the difficulty and increased rewards for larger and more complex maps. People are simply kicking and screaming to make it easier on them so they can acquire the same rewards for less of an investment.

    Go play half court Basketball.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    Well that's at least an argument @CoatHang3r so you win over Grounded Wisdom. And I'm OK with the added difficulty. Just can't abide when the people act like the 1 hour timers are somehow better for players, and given busy lives and other obligations I perfer the 1/2 hour timers. But you make a valid point.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    The problem is you don't see the people who can't log on as often, or at different times, of consequence. When some of us are going to bed, others are logging on. If the Map is finished everytime, they don't get to participate at all. Not to mention the pressure Allies place on people who can't log on as often and make moves. It isn't beneficial for everyone. Regardless, we're still waiting 24 hours in between Maps.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    I think 1/2 hour timers are better for the player base, you prefer that the timer favors groups without families, etc., which is a valid position as it's a competitive game. At that point it's not really who is right and who is wrong, it's which model is better and that's opinion.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    In that case I obviously prefer my opinion and you yours. @GroundedWisdom is just wrong though lol.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    Well, it's quite literally because some Maps are finished faster as well. Lower Maps take less moves. AQ opens in the afternoon for us. Which is nighttime for others. By the time they get on, it's done.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    Sure. If that's how you feel, go with it.
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    LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Well, it's quite literally because some Maps are finished faster as well. Lower Maps take less moves. AQ opens in the afternoon for us. Which is nighttime for others. By the time they get on, it's done.

    Yes, and for every one of those maps there is more flexibility if the timer is shorter and if it's cleared everyone benefits. Unlike coat hanger you still have failed to make a valid point. I disagree with coat hanger but I can't even disagree with you in the same way because you keep not making actual points.

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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,247 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    You keep missing the point. People aren't just playing to get Rewards. Especially with lower Maps. They're playing to grow. They can't grow and gain experience unless they play. As beneficial as you may think it is to log on and get Rewards everytime, it does little to help people get better at the game.
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    GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 1,075 ★★★
    Omni wrote: »
    I know you frequent YouTube streams so I’ll chalk it up to you being blind.

    Oh, the irony! Watches YT streams himself yet calls another player blind/stupid for doing so
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    DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,875 ★★★★★
    Omni wrote: »
    Dropfaith wrote: »
    Please don't with he timers I can do my path after people leave with 30 minute I'm rushed more so when family is here I'd need to move. In aq

    If you are feeling pressure from e-friends, I think you need to re-evaluate life.

    Any time someone comes on here and suggest shorter timers you chime in about feeling pressure from your allince.

    How about you tell your alliance you’re good for a total of 24 moves while the rest of us have the potential to move 48.

    If you don’t feel comfortable telling your alliance you have a life outside of this game that is again you’re problem and we shouldn’t be punished because of it.

    @Omni maybe you should re-evaluate your life if you can't handle it on an hour timer
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    DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Posts: 2,875 ★★★★★
    Actually everyone whinging about the timers being an hour, just stop AQ altogether, get some tissues for your tears and just participate on 30min timers when it happens.

    If not, then stop whinging about the timer as it's good enough for the 45-50 AQs your playing all year
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    Swe_wolfisSwe_wolfis Posts: 390 ★★
    Not sure if anyone bothered to check the calendar, but AQ will end on Christmas Eve and if people don't get too drunk on New Years, you should finish day 5 on New Year's day without much problems.
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    DL864DL864 Posts: 1,089 ★★★
    DrOctavius2_2 wrote: »
    LeNoirFaineant wrote: »
    @DrOctavius2_2 why would you have to log in every 30 minutes? How do people not get that if you login less you can still finish faster. With 30 minute timers even if everyone doesn't login for hours you can still finish faster. This shouldn't be hard.

    My line chat is blowing up with messages of alliance mates telling me to hurry up and clear node, puts added pressure to keep up, whereas before I had a lot of leeway before alliance mates start asking to bring node down. I could check every so often in the day with no complaints

    That’s just crazy to me. You could actually login in less and finish faster. My bg is spilt between uk and us everybody still logins in at there normal time and we finish way ahead. Sounds like to me it’s more about some ally’s wanting to finish in 12 hours instead of taking their time and enjoying 30 min timers.
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    DL864DL864 Posts: 1,089 ★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    You keep missing the point. People aren't just playing to get Rewards. Especially with lower Maps. They're playing to grow. They can't grow and gain experience unless they play. As beneficial as you may think it is to log on and get Rewards everytime, it does little to help people get better at the game.

    That’s totally up to the ally’s to get them experience. I know in our alliance if guys speak up and say they need practice on a mini boss or something we let them have first shot. Also if your ally’s putting more pressure on you with 30 min timers maybe it’s time you find a new one. For us which we are split between us and uk it’s much less pressure with 30 min timers.
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