Someone disagreeing with this specific post is just a sign that Disagrees are straight up meaningless. Someone is disagreeing with expressions of gratitude to between players?
Thanks for the post otherwise. I enjoyed your well thought out piece.
It does make me wonder why Kabam got rid of the beta-buff player testing program.
1. Too slow? I am sure if they wanted to, they could speed up the recruitment portion, shorten the actual time for players to test (I am sure players could figure out bugs and cheesy interactions even with just one day to test).
2. Too much resources? Could be a thing both on the front end (recruitment, setting up the beta environment, etc) and on the back end (responding to feedback and making changes or another beta), or just one. But it could be worthwhile to avoid having to rebuff champions or deal with player outrage.
3. To keep the surprise factor? I wouldn't have any knowledge whether keeping champion buffs a secret until a few weeks before release does something regarding player engagement/purchases. So I don't have any insight there.
4. Some other (monetary) reason?
There must be some reason champion buffs are no longer a thing, as Kabam is clearly find doing betas for Act 7 and making tweaks.
Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them and I’m glad you enjoyed the post too.
1. I don’t think it’s this 2. If they see the value in this, it can be set up easily as they have done before, but a much smaller and more efficient task force 3. It wasn’t received well when someone leaked the Magneto videos, frankly it breached an NDA and got the source kicked out of the CCP Beta, but maybe it isn’t a surprise factor as much as it is maintaining the integrity of the developers and giving them the comfort and space and time they need to get things done 4. I don’t think it’s this either
You’re right though, Kabam are comfortable with doing betas for story content so there must be a very specific reason that beta was cancelled for buffed champs
I agree 100% with op, the negativity here has been a bit much. Even some of the buffs that ppl dislike we’re fine IMO. Guilly was the only one that got me a bit bummed but I wasn’t coming on here ranting.
Ddhk I actually enjoy, I got a bunch of his synergy partners already ranked and when he has a team around him he’s actually decent and fun to play. He’s not the top dps but he’s tanky and has some great utility in anti miss and shrugging non damaging debuffs. He actually gets a lot better when u master him. I just recently r3ed peni and she makes him hit much harder too.
So many great buffs, hood I agreed with them changing to his 3rd form cause he was always a good buff controller and I agree with keeping core identities of champs.
But I hear ppl screaming nerf at Hawkeye and that’s ridiculous he still keeps a similar power control s1 rotation but they added so much more to his kit, the power control was just balanced to match his new damage. There’s a reason magik dosnt hit that hard, power control is a powerful ability so with him going to be doing great damage (on paper) I can see why they tweaked it.
If the idea of the buffs is to make a champ more relevant/useful/higher performing/"better", why go through the hassle of taking away 1 to add 2? What's the benefit beyond farming complaints?Would it have really broken the game to leave his power drain entirely alone and add the Perfect Release stuff on top? If it was a matter of "Oh noes, he can keep an opponent at 0 power!!1!", so what? That would be making him join a club. Not a big deal.
Easier said than done, but the idea is to buff them and rebalance them so that they don't have the possibility of an overpowered situation. It's more prudent to err on the side of less than more, simply because too much causes damage. It's easy for people to claim it wouldn't be too much because people tend to think of additives as being beneficial. If those additives result in a more imbalanced outcome, that's not beneficial.
I’m not defending anyone’s outrageous behavior, but there’s likely damage if you err on the side of “too little” as well. The Guilly update is one such situation, and there are plenty of players still very angry about that. Several successive buffs viewed as “too little” prior to Guilly (Ronin, DDHK) created the impression the update program had lost its way. That type of repeated under-delivery damages confidence in the team and the commitment to make champs relevant.
Dr. Zola
I'm talking about damage to the game overall. Not damage to feedback. Although I suppose a case could be made for the damage of doing too little. I don't really dispute Guilly. It can certainly go south at times. It's just not practical or feasible to operate on adding alone.
I don’t mean feedback. I mean faith in the game such that people want to play and invest time and money.
As for addition only, there are some champs I consider more like proto-champs—their kit is so basic and from an early time for the game they feel like simply the skeleton upon which you can hang various abilities. In many respects, they are akin to the first character you get in a video game. Those champs should get addition and a lot of it.
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Which is why they should open a small channel up to the players. If Kabam can’t do it alone then we should try and help. Lagacy helped reduce Red Goblin’s penalty for losing a fight and BG helped design iBom. We need more of this.
I still think that changes are for sure added to the list of “make it harder to fight against” at some point In the process. As well as make them better attackers
Champs are made for both offense and defense. Why shouldn't they buff defensive abilities? Well I know why since a large chunk of the player base hates anything challenging or needing to think outside the box to clear a fight.
Not speaking for anyone else but, 100% yes I agree with you. I don’t play this to think at all. I play it to get lost in easy content. To melt my brain for a little.
@Kabam Miike any thoughts on this topic? On possibly reopening a small channel to trusted users for the purpose of testing buffed champions prior to release?
@Kabam Miike any thoughts on this topic? On possibly reopening a small channel to trusted users for the purpose of testing buffed champions prior to release?
Tbh I'm surprised this thread went on without either interference or a warning.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Thanks for the tip I have Torch, don't have Nimrod yet. See that is the fun part, finding these counters and controlling the fight
@Kabam Miike any thoughts on this topic? On possibly reopening a small channel to trusted users for the purpose of testing buffed champions prior to release?
Tbh I'm surprised this thread went on without either interference or a warning.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Thanks for the tip I have Torch, don't have Nimrod yet. See that is the fun part, finding these counters and controlling the fight
You’re welcome! Magneto deals Energy Damage so Torch will build those Smoulders up in no time,
@Kabam Miike any thoughts on this topic? On possibly reopening a small channel to trusted users for the purpose of testing buffed champions prior to release?
Tbh I'm surprised this thread went on without either interference or a warning.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
No it’s not just that. He’s immune to Magneto’s Magnetized. And in Blitz Protocol, Nimrod’s attacks remove Prowess.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
No it’s not just that. He’s immune to Magneto’s Magnetized. And in Blitz Protocol, Nimrod’s attacks remove Prowess.
Gee, it's almost as if he was designed as the ultimate counter to the best mutant 🧐
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
No it’s not just that. He’s immune to Magneto’s Magnetized. And in Blitz Protocol, Nimrod’s attacks remove Prowess.
Gee, it's almost as if he was designed as the ultimate counter to the best mutant 🧐
Brooooo this community is full of the most toxic people I have ever seen in ANY community. It’s a toss up when you check forums of how toxic you will find their posts.
Yes kabam has made mistakes, but they also have tried and corrected theirs. You guys all attack the wrong folks too. Your post is spot on man, I’ve been saying for years that kabam community is the most toxic of all and the last year it has gotten so much worse.
Thanks mate and yes, the toxicity is getting much worse. And if we feel the game is falling behind it’s simple: we can choose to be a part of the problem, or a part of the solution. Unfortunately we know what half or maybe even more than half the community would prefer to do.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
No it’s not just that. He’s immune to Magneto’s Magnetized. And in Blitz Protocol, Nimrod’s attacks remove Prowess.
Only the AAR aspect. Magneto still gets the perks and Nimrod still gets the other drawbacks of being Magnetized. Nimrod's shock debuff damage is only 10% effective and removing prowess is good but he usually shouldn't have any so that's mostly irrelevant. It's more of a fight where neither side has their home-run damage easily accessible anymore instead of a one sided mutant or robot beatdown. Definitely doable and better than every other robot, just not as easy as HT.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Torch destroys Magneto. Also Nimrod is a good counter I believe.
Nimrod is a counter in that he isn't immediately destroyed. I guess it counts if he's all you have if only because he's better than every other robot.
No it’s not just that. He’s immune to Magneto’s Magnetized. And in Blitz Protocol, Nimrod’s attacks remove Prowess.
Only the AAR aspect. Magneto still gets the perks and Nimrod still gets the other drawbacks of being Magnetized. Nimrod's shock debuff damage is only 10% effective and removing prowess is good but he usually shouldn't have any so that's mostly irrelevant. It's more of a fight where neither side has their home-run damage easily accessible anymore instead of a one sided mutant or robot beatdown. Definitely doable and better than every other robot, just not as easy as HT.
Yes this is along the lines of what I was thinking. Thanks for wording it better though.
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Which is why they should open a small channel up to the players. If Kabam can’t do it alone then we should try and help. Lagacy helped reduce Red Goblin’s penalty for losing a fight and BG helped design iBom. We need more of this.
There's a lot that we don't see. Mostly because people are required to sign NDA's and sometimes can't even speak after said things are released. I was part of a feedback group before CCP I believe that reviewed changes to AQ when Kingpin was being released as the final boss. I had to sign an NDA and couldn't say anything until they gave us the green light.
The problem I see with those small groups is that jealously plays a big role in peoples reactions. Those people would be targeted by others saying they don't know anything and can't believe they were chosen if what is being discussed is an unpopular decision. I am for these types of feedback groups 1005 but I can also see how even more toxicity can be introduced because of them as well.
in fact, I think they need a players relations committee of some sort. Aside from the CCP. They need the voices of the player base honestly and not just for things like the Beta for content. For all aspects like comp packages, content direction etc..
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Which is why they should open a small channel up to the players. If Kabam can’t do it alone then we should try and help. Lagacy helped reduce Red Goblin’s penalty for losing a fight and BG helped design iBom. We need more of this.
There's a lot that we don't see. Mostly because people are required to sign NDA's and sometimes can't even speak after said things are released. I was part of a feedback group before CCP I believe that reviewed changes to AQ when Kingpin was being released as the final boss. I had to sign an NDA and couldn't say anything until they gave us the green light.
The problem I see with those small groups is that jealously plays a big role in peoples reactions. Those people would be targeted by others saying they don't know anything and can't believe they were chosen if what is being discussed is an unpopular decision. I am for these types of feedback groups 1005 but I can also see how even more toxicity can be introduced because of them as well.
in fact, I think they need a players relations committee of some sort. Aside from the CCP. They need the voices of the player base honestly and not just for things like the Beta for content. For all aspects like comp packages, content direction etc..
Yes. That’s a brilliant idea if you think about it. The aim of it would be to get in tune with the player base. Makes complete sense.
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Which is why they should open a small channel up to the players. If Kabam can’t do it alone then we should try and help. Lagacy helped reduce Red Goblin’s penalty for losing a fight and BG helped design iBom. We need more of this.
There's a lot that we don't see. Mostly because people are required to sign NDA's and sometimes can't even speak after said things are released. I was part of a feedback group before CCP I believe that reviewed changes to AQ when Kingpin was being released as the final boss. I had to sign an NDA and couldn't say anything until they gave us the green light.
The problem I see with those small groups is that jealously plays a big role in peoples reactions. Those people would be targeted by others saying they don't know anything and can't believe they were chosen if what is being discussed is an unpopular decision. I am for these types of feedback groups 1005 but I can also see how even more toxicity can be introduced because of them as well.
in fact, I think they need a players relations committee of some sort. Aside from the CCP. They need the voices of the player base honestly and not just for things like the Beta for content. For all aspects like comp packages, content direction etc..
Your idea of a player relations committee is a great one.
Oh toxicity is everywhere. It's mostly disagrees for no reason on forums. Probably even this post.
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Which is why they should open a small channel up to the players. If Kabam can’t do it alone then we should try and help. Lagacy helped reduce Red Goblin’s penalty for losing a fight and BG helped design iBom. We need more of this.
There's a lot that we don't see. Mostly because people are required to sign NDA's and sometimes can't even speak after said things are released. I was part of a feedback group before CCP I believe that reviewed changes to AQ when Kingpin was being released as the final boss. I had to sign an NDA and couldn't say anything until they gave us the green light.
The problem I see with those small groups is that jealously plays a big role in peoples reactions. Those people would be targeted by others saying they don't know anything and can't believe they were chosen if what is being discussed is an unpopular decision. I am for these types of feedback groups 1005 but I can also see how even more toxicity can be introduced because of them as well.
in fact, I think they need a players relations committee of some sort. Aside from the CCP. They need the voices of the player base honestly and not just for things like the Beta for content. For all aspects like comp packages, content direction etc..
Your idea of a player relations committee is a great one.
Yeah, hopefully Kabam listen to us, particularly Demonz’s idea, and hopefully we can change something for the better. Start a fresh chapter with Kabam. Especially with a new year on the horizon, new tidings and whatnot.
After the Kabam John Q@A i think the toxic response is kind of justified, he was basically gaslight the community with his answers, he didn't answer a single relevant question.... kind of gives you a better picture how they think of these forums...Kabam is definitely short staffed at the moment, id actually like them to pause buffs and please just fix the game...
He wasn't gas lighting. He said quite plainly, they hear us, but they don't have any plans for major changes to her kit. They're looking at the Regen. There's a difference between gas lighting and being upfront. Having a conversation doesn't always mean getting what people want.
After the Kabam John Q@A i think the toxic response is kind of justified, he was basically gaslight the community with his answers, he didn't answer a single relevant question.... kind of gives you a better picture how they think of these forums...Kabam is definitely short staffed at the moment, id actually like them to pause buffs and please just fix the game...
You read a thread about people being irrationally toxic towards Kabam and decided the best comment to make was to accuse someone of gaslighting because you didn’t like the answer they gave.
I’ve been saying for years that kabam community is the most toxic of all and the last year it has gotten so much worse.
Kabam is not the worst game studio, MCOC is not the worst quality game, this is not the worst game forum, we're not the worst game community.
We could be (and should be) better, they could be better, the game could be better, but none of them come close to being the worst anything. Addressing the issues the OP raises starts with seeing the world as it is, and not as we want it to be, and not as everyone else is shouting that it is.
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1. I don’t think it’s this
2. If they see the value in this, it can be set up easily as they have done before, but a much smaller and more efficient task force
3. It wasn’t received well when someone leaked the Magneto videos, frankly it breached an NDA and got the source kicked out of the CCP Beta, but maybe it isn’t a surprise factor as much as it is maintaining the integrity of the developers and giving them the comfort and space and time they need to get things done
4. I don’t think it’s this either
You’re right though, Kabam are comfortable with doing betas for story content so there must be a very specific reason that beta was cancelled for buffed champs
As for addition only, there are some champs I consider more like proto-champs—their kit is so basic and from an early time for the game they feel like simply the skeleton upon which you can hang various abilities. In many respects, they are akin to the first character you get in a video game. Those champs should get addition and a lot of it.
Dr. Zola
The buff program started a year ago with much enthusiasm. A community request came through. There were some dissapointing buffs, sure, but they weren't party poopers. But then The Hood, Guillotine, and the whole vibe changed.
Personally, I start to yawn when a buff is released. Thor Rags? Didn't care at all. And now Joe Fixit who is going to be a pain in anyone's well-tailored ass. The mixed feelings I have with Hawkeye.
It's probably getting much worse before it gets better. People are really frustrated with this game, which is the opposite what a game should do.
Ofc, who wouldn't want strong attackers and weak defenders. But it'd be no challenge, taking champs like Doom against OG cap marvel.
Ppl need to realise the game is shifting and the power increase (aka buffs) is a double edged sword. You have better champs in possesion, but you also meet stronger opponents.
To me, learning new champs and their kits and how to counter them is one of the most fun things to do (ofc it has exceptions, for ex Magento I just hate fighting due to lack of direct counter, but that's just my subjective feel and I don't hate on Magnetos' buff)
Yup. The first one was a lot more aggressive 😇
Torch destroys Nimrod too ironically enough
And if we feel the game is falling behind it’s simple: we can choose to be a part of the problem, or a part of the solution.
Unfortunately we know what half or maybe even more than half the community would prefer to do.
The problem I see with those small groups is that jealously plays a big role in peoples reactions. Those people would be targeted by others saying they don't know anything and can't believe they were chosen if what is being discussed is an unpopular decision. I am for these types of feedback groups 1005 but I can also see how even more toxicity can be introduced because of them as well.
in fact, I think they need a players relations committee of some sort. Aside from the CCP. They need the voices of the player base honestly and not just for things like the Beta for content. For all aspects like comp packages, content direction etc..
The aim of it would be to get in tune with the player base.
Makes complete sense.
Especially with a new year on the horizon, new tidings and whatnot.
Way to prove the point
We could be (and should be) better, they could be better, the game could be better, but none of them come close to being the worst anything. Addressing the issues the OP raises starts with seeing the world as it is, and not as we want it to be, and not as everyone else is shouting that it is.