Why is Deadpool a Mutant?

KablKabl Member Posts: 315 ★★★
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Did he receive his mutation when he was born? I think he got his powers from the Weapon X program so he's a mutate?

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  • Captain_MonticaCaptain_Montica Member Posts: 317 ★★
    I think he was a mercenary that got cancer and went to a secret weapon program then he got ugly and can heal himself
  • te_dua_shumte_dua_shum Member Posts: 1,001 ★★★★
    naikavon said:


    There is of course the Deadpool movies which file fairly accurately his comic origin and he is not a mutant.

    Isn't deadpool a mutant in his films? The program that he entered creates mutants by stimulating their latent mutant genes as said by the "doctor", who received the same treatment as Wilson and is also called "mutant" by a random gangster, so shouldn't deadpool be considered a mutant too? ^_^
  • YoMovesYoMoves Member Posts: 1,283 ★★★★
    te_dua_shum said:

    naikavon said:


    There is of course the Deadpool movies which file fairly accurately his comic origin and he is not a mutant.

    Isn't deadpool a mutant in his films? The program that he entered creates mutants by stimulating their latent mutant genes as said by the "doctor", who received the same treatment as Wilson and is also called "mutant" by a random gangster, so shouldn't deadpool be considered a mutant too? ^_^
    Francis moment
  • naikavonnaikavon Member Posts: 299 ★★★
    te_dua_shum said:

    naikavon said:


    There is of course the Deadpool movies which file fairly accurately his comic origin and he is not a mutant.

    Isn't deadpool a mutant in his films? The program that he entered creates mutants by stimulating their latent mutant genes as said by the "doctor", who received the same treatment as Wilson and is also called "mutant" by a random gangster, so shouldn't deadpool be considered a mutant too? ^_^
    I used to think so too but Deadpool #6 kinda threw a wrench into that thought process. It can be argued the movie version is technically a mutate. To be honest, it's all so convoluted, I just go with 4th wall breaking meshing he can do whatever and be whatever lol.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,435 ★★★★★
    The comics version isn't a mutant. The version seen in his solo movies isn't really either. The version in XMOW is apparently a mutant, since he's in Team X who are all mutants, except Stryker. That version is extremely agile and capable of physical feats beyond normal humans (slicing a bullet in half with a katana?) although what his mutant powers are exactly is unclear, like Agent Zero's.

    However, there's a simple reason the MCOC version is a mutant: Marvel said so.
  • WayWorn2525WayWorn2525 Member Posts: 996 ★★★
    Deadpool is not a mutant as he was not born with his powers – they were experimentally created. Still, he is considered to be one by a lot of people and even we could describe him as a sort of “transmutant”, a mutant who was created, rather than being born like that.
  • ReferenceReference Member Posts: 2,910 ★★★★★
    If you define mutant as only those born with mutant DNA, then Deadpool is not a mutant. Juggernaut is another example. Even those they were all appeared in x-men storyline.
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,452 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    Reference said:

    If you define mutant as only those born with mutant DNA, then Deadpool is not a mutant. Juggernaut is another example. Even those they were all appeared in x-men storyline.

    Juggernaut is technically a Warlock, not a mutant
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,693 Guardian
    Marvel over the years has kind of made a mess of this via shifting stories and retcons and the typical way comic books stories borrow just enough science to be wrong.

    My best understanding of the current canon is that a "mutant" in the Marvel sense of the word is someone who is born with the X-gene enabled in their DNA, which generally gets fully expressed as the person enters puberty (but sometimes is triggered by stress or other factors). Mutants aren't always born with their powers active, although the presumption is that all mutants are born mutants: they just don't have their powers developed enough to do anything until later in life.

    Because of this, it is difficult to know who's a mutant. If you experiment on someone and they gain superpowers, that could be because the experiments somehow conveyed those powers to them (i.e. the Hulk) or those experiments could somehow activate the X-gene in that individual (i.e Rogue). The only way to know if someone is or is not a mutant in the Marvel universe is for someone to study their genes and find out in a way the readers of the story can also know authoritatively. If no one explicitly tests somehow, there's no way to know just by knowing when and how they gained their powers.

    It has never been explained what the difference is between the X-gene mutation and all other genetic mutations that grant super powers. This is kept deliberately fuzzy and ambiguous by Marvel for story telling flexibility. For example, Inhuman terrigenesis and Mutant activation sound very similar, and both are canonically the result of Celestial manipulation (at least, last I checked). What makes them different? It has never been stated.
  • odishika123odishika123 Member Posts: 5,412 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Marvel over the years has kind of made a mess of this via shifting stories and retcons and the typical way comic books stories borrow just enough science to be wrong.

    My best understanding of the current canon is that a "mutant" in the Marvel sense of the word is someone who is born with the X-gene enabled in their DNA, which generally gets fully expressed as the person enters puberty (but sometimes is triggered by stress or other factors). Mutants aren't always born with their powers active, although the presumption is that all mutants are born mutants: they just don't have their powers developed enough to do anything until later in life.

    Because of this, it is difficult to know who's a mutant. If you experiment on someone and they gain superpowers, that could be because the experiments somehow conveyed those powers to them (i.e. the Hulk) or those experiments could somehow activate the X-gene in that individual (i.e Rogue). The only way to know if someone is or is not a mutant in the Marvel universe is for someone to study their genes and find out in a way the readers of the story can also know authoritatively. If no one explicitly tests somehow, there's no way to know just by knowing when and how they gained their powers.

    It has never been explained what the difference is between the X-gene mutation and all other genetic mutations that grant super powers. This is kept deliberately fuzzy and ambiguous by Marvel for story telling flexibility. For example, Inhuman terrigenesis and Mutant activation sound very similar, and both are canonically the result of Celestial manipulation (at least, last I checked). What makes them different? It has never been stated.

    And for some reason the terrigene mist is like poison for mutants
  • knupdiputsknupdiputs Member Posts: 52 ★
    In the game, the Collector said he’s a mutant because it’s his contest and he said so.
  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    edited December 2021
    Deadpool is a mutate (granted abilities via experimentation)
    He never had the xgene so isn’t a mutant

    The xgene is what makes one a mutant.
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