CGR or Herc to R3 first.

KumbieKumbie Member Posts: 62 ★
edited December 2021 in Strategy and Tips
I'm a few shards away from my first cosmic t5cc and I just pulled Herc a few ago.

I have been using CGR for the past few months and he was always the one I was going to R3 but now that Herc just arrived, I'm now in a dilemma

Help and include why please. Thank you.
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  • TheBoogyManTheBoogyMan Member Posts: 2,094 ★★★★★
    If you're great at intercepts them herc.

    If you're okay with getting hits in block and avoid using Dex, then cgr.
  • Sw0rdMasterSw0rdMaster Member Posts: 1,801 ★★★★
    I have both at R3 and it depends on the fight.

    If there isn't anything stopping me from throwing armour breaks, then I'll go with CGR as he'll end the fight fast.

    Else, if they are armour break immune or evades, etc, then I'll go with herc.

  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Heec and not a question
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★
    Hercs dupe is nice, but it really isn’t needed. Just like CAIW, great without the dupe, but the dupe just takes them to the next level and makes them look weak without it because of the power it contains, atleast to the players eye. Tough decision, can’t go wrong between the 2. CGR is a meh miss counter but it’s there nontheless, think duration is increased if you have buffs on you. Armor breaks are very nice, power gain too. Incinerate and bleed immunity high crit rate with cruelty boosting it,, solid synergy teams, outstanding damage, however rather buff reliant for most of his damage. Assuming he isn’t awakened the 2 are pretty even. Herc has a little bonus to make heroes with suicides deal more damage, and i believe the highest base damage in the game with his feats of strengths passives. Sp1 grants him some more crit rating, poison and bleed resistant, and his infuriate is really good for easy intercepts, helps ramp him up and get that sp2 damage up higher than it is. Burst damage is also nice for places that basic hits don’t do damage, atleast i think thats how it works. Stun immunity for reflecting stun, encroaching stun, etc nodes is pretty solid too. Believe his sp2 penetrates through armor as well to make up for not having armor break. Solid synergies around him too.

    I feel like hercules is safer to play, and has great control of the fight (andCGR if duped for that powerlock), but CGR when he works, works very well as he ends fights ridiculously fast. Nodes that cancel out his buffs, power gain, armor breaks or stun though could hurt at times. I would go herc because that infuriate just makes the passive AI so less irritating but if you find yourself clearing content with CGR all the time, go for it. Both are fun to play too.
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★
    ChaosMax1012 said:

    Hercs dupe is nice, but it really isn’t needed. Just like CAIW, great without the dupe, but the dupe just takes them to the next level and makes them look weak without it because of the power it contains, atleast to the players eye. Tough decision, can’t go wrong between the 2. CGR is a meh miss counter but it’s there nontheless, think duration is increased if you have buffs on you. Armor breaks are very nice, power gain too. Incinerate and bleed immunity high crit rate with cruelty boosting it,, solid synergy teams, outstanding damage, however rather buff reliant for most of his damage. Assuming he isn’t awakened the 2 are pretty even. Herc has a little bonus to make heroes with suicides deal more damage, and i believe the highest base damage in the game with his feats of strengths passives. Sp1 grants him some more crit rating, poison and bleed resistant, and his infuriate is really good for easy intercepts, helps ramp him up and get that sp2 damage up higher than it is. Burst damage is also nice for places that basic hits don’t do damage, atleast i think thats how it works. Stun immunity for reflecting stun, encroaching stun, etc nodes is pretty solid too. Believe his sp2 penetrates through armor as well to make up for not having armor break. Solid synergies around him too.

    I feel like hercules is safer to play, and has great control of the fight (andCGR if duped for that powerlock), but CGR when he works, works very well as he ends fights ridiculously fast. Nodes that cancel out his buffs, power gain, armor breaks or stun though could hurt at times. I would go herc because that infuriate just makes the passive AI so less irritating but if you find yourself clearing content with CGR all the time, go for it. Both are fun to play too.

    Not to say herc doesn’t deal some pretty high numbers too though, that burst damage is noticeable
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Derek2k said:

    I have both. Rank 3. Cgr better in all ways Except broken immortality garbage.

    I’m probably one of the biggest CGR fan boys on the forum, and even I know this is wrong
  • R1s02R1s02 Member Posts: 274 ★★
    Hercules ezpz.
  • Malreck04Malreck04 Member Posts: 3,328 ★★★★★
    I'll be taking my herc to r3 unduped, and the only use my r5 cgr gets is potion farming, which r3 herc will eventually take over.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,954 ★★★★★
    think in this case you cannot go wrong. Which ever one you, at the end of day, would prefer
  • I_tell_no_tales_1I_tell_no_tales_1 Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★★
    ChaosMax1012 said:

    ChaosMax1012 said:

    Hercs dupe is nice, but it really isn’t needed. Just like CAIW, great without the dupe, but the dupe just takes them to the next level and makes them look weak without it because of the power it contains, atleast to the players eye. Tough decision, can’t go wrong between the 2. CGR is a meh miss counter but it’s there nontheless, think duration is increased if you have buffs on you. Armor breaks are very nice, power gain too. Incinerate and bleed immunity high crit rate with cruelty boosting it,, solid synergy teams, outstanding damage, however rather buff reliant for most of his damage. Assuming he isn’t awakened the 2 are pretty even. Herc has a little bonus to make heroes with suicides deal more damage, and i believe the highest base damage in the game with his feats of strengths passives. Sp1 grants him some more crit rating, poison and bleed resistant, and his infuriate is really good for easy intercepts, helps ramp him up and get that sp2 damage up higher than it is. Burst damage is also nice for places that basic hits don’t do damage, atleast i think thats how it works. Stun immunity for reflecting stun, encroaching stun, etc nodes is pretty solid too. Believe his sp2 penetrates through armor as well to make up for not having armor break. Solid synergies around him too.

    I feel like hercules is safer to play, and has great control of the fight (andCGR if duped for that powerlock), but CGR when he works, works very well as he ends fights ridiculously fast. Nodes that cancel out his buffs, power gain, armor breaks or stun though could hurt at times. I would go herc because that infuriate just makes the passive AI so less irritating but if you find yourself clearing content with CGR all the time, go for it. Both are fun to play too.

    Not to say herc doesn’t deal some pretty high numbers too though, that burst damage is noticeable
    Master Chaos I agree with you
  • AzKicker316AzKicker316 Member Posts: 2,446 ★★★★★
    Herc hands down, even if unduped. I love my r3 Herc and I use him all over the place, way more than my r3 CGR
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,796 ★★★★★
    Rank 3 CGR. You know how to play him, will use him more, and I personally believe he’s better than herc.
  • JhonST33JhonST33 Member Posts: 588 ★★★
    Kumbie said:

    I'm a few shards away from my first cosmic t5cc and I just pulled Herc a few ago.

    I have been using CGR for the past few months and he was always the one I was going to R3 but now that Herc just arrived, I'm now in a dilemma

    Help and include why please. Thank you.

    As a rank3 CGR and a rank 2 hércules, both unduped, go for hércules.
  • JragonMaster170JragonMaster170 Member Posts: 2,049 ★★★★★
    Herc if duped
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  • Xva23Xva23 Member Posts: 500 ★★★
    I don't have a proper opinion, but I'll just say, herc's insane damage you see does not need the dupe, the dupe adds more cheese fights, and can save you a revive here and there. On the other hand, CGR's damage is so stupid that the difference between r2 and r3 is one combo, but still nice. So it's up to personal preference really
  • KumbieKumbie Member Posts: 62 ★
    Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I have decided to go with Hercules after having him for the past few days, I love his damage and his animations
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,500 ★★★★★
    Kumbie said:

    Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I have decided to go with Hercules after having him for the past few days, I love his damage and his animations

    Good choice
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