Potential Delay to v44.1 Launch
We are currently working through some issues that may affect the release window of v44.1. This means that the update may not release on Monday as it usually does. We are working to resolve the issue holding us up as quickly as possible, but will keep you all updated, especially if the delay results in any changes to the content release schedule.
We are currently working through some issues that may affect the release window of v44.1. This means that the update may not release on Monday as it usually does. We are working to resolve the issue holding us up as quickly as possible, but will keep you all updated, especially if the delay results in any changes to the content release schedule.
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- Use sig stones because at max sig the benefit of duping a max sig champ is getting double shards
- Use awakening gem on champions that benefit from awaken ability, then repeat the above step
Almost 3/4 of my 3*s and 1/2 of my 4*s are at max sig. Also, I have 20 5*s at max sig. AG and sig stones are useful for account progression
I think that those 5 extra awakening gems should let most thronebreakers to get to 5 generic ag, and so trading it for a 6 stars awakening crystal.
That's should make this event more "fair" for those who dont hoard resources because of kabam's recommendations.
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit maybe take this suggestion?
2022 will be the year of the hoard... I want so many crystals in my inventory that my phone actually feels physically heavier
For real though, this hoarding hoax is getting rampant.
it is kind of weird seeing so many people all but threaten to hoard resources, as if this will force Kabam to change something. Whether you use all your awakening gems or none of them means nothing to Kabam except it changes a number on a dashboard. Players have zero leverage in this regard: the threat to hoard resources is no threat to the game.
Kabam encourages players to use resources to prevent them from hurting their own progress through excessive hoarding. But if a player insists on hoarding resources and then complains they are short of resources, they have no one to blame but themselves, and the game has no obligation to make more resources available to feed hoarders who want to save everything for the future, or who only want to spend resources in certain specific narrow ways.
If I choose to hoard resources it’s not as a threat to Kabam but due to not wanting to miss an opportunity again. From my perspective I don’t care if it has any impact on kabam at all, but I think this is a way of showing frustration over another part of the game that doesn’t feel fair. This is a subjective feeling, and you can make an objective argument as to why it is fair as there was equality of opportunity. However, that doesn’t change the feeling.
For me I used up resources just to use up the resource. But I still had 2 Generic AG and a load of other various 5* gems. I don’t see this as bad resource management. I couldn’t from any more to get the 3 I needed due to RNG not being in my favour.
If this was part of a permanent store we wouldn’t see it as hoarding, it would be saving up the resources rather than wasting them. For me 5* resources have so little value to my account that going forward i’m not going to use them, but it also won’t impact on my progression. What it will hopefully do is provide an opportunity to if Kabam choose to have this type of trade in in future. But again, my account won’t be worse of for letting crystals stack up.
This is spot on. 100%
If those resources genuinely have no value to your progress, or so little that it doesn't matter, there's no problem with keeping them and that's not the definition of hoarding in games. Hoarding is holding resources for no reasonable purpose or rational reason. Letting them stack up because you can't find a good use for them is a perfectly good reason to let resources stack up for some potential future opportunity, and therefore it is not hoarding by definition. At least not in the context of game operators discouraging hoarding in games.
I've made it a point to grind as much of the resources I can grind for: units, potions, energy refills. And since 5* AGs are still a relatively limited resource, I always grab them whenever I can, even though I haven't used one for over two years.
Whenever I see an unawakened or pull a new 5* champion, I always ask myself if I NEED to rank up and/or awaken that champion for the progression of my account. The answer has almost always been "No". I'd just save them for the right time so I won't have any regrets that I used them on an empty awakening just for fun or for the sake of it.
Given all that, I had six 5* AGs, over a dozen class AGs, and countless 4* AGs at the beginning of the event. And after doing all the necessary trades, I ended up with a 6* Tech AG, four 5* AGs, several 5* class AGs, and still a ton of 4* AGs.
This isn't to say that the way the Trade-In Store has been setup is fair. Five 5* AGs is a high cost for a majority of players and not being able to reroll 5* class AGs when you can do it for 6* AGs isn't logical either. I just wanted to share how I got to the position that I'm in, and there are probably people out there who are the same.
Dr. Zola
If it wasn't for that fact, I might have checked out a while ago myself.
has finally drained me past the point of caring.
Memes, misunderstandings…all part of what happens when frequent, clear and effective communication isn’t a priority.
It would stink if players were on here griping all the time about being unable to progress because they have to hoard everything until Christmas—if only there were a way the team could send them a message that that’s not necessary.
Dr. Zola
I climbed the ladder with my gems, replaced some class gems and generics that I traded, and got a 6-star. I rerolled it when I didn’t like it.
I guess what I don’t get, and this is sincere, not sarcastic - some of y’all have to be playing WAY different than me if you’re opening all your solo shards. I don’t understand how you don’t constantly have stuff expire.
Both my TB accounts have hundreds of these crystals unopened from event rewards and I can pull any 4-star gems I need from them. Are you opening them for arena boosts, and I just don’t grind arena? Even if that’s the case, how do you still have 4-stars to awaken? I only have 2-4 unduped (edit: per class) at a time, and they inevitably awaken when I pull 4-stars for iso.
What this does, is show don't research champs yourself use tier lists because you learning let's say punisher 2099 awaken is worth while for you to choose him in a nexus will cost you say awakening of aegon with a gem.
The flow on to kabam will be a bit but not much in the scheme of things. It will be the outlier people. The more you hoard when say a cat deal that has extra stuff. If you were on the fence about the cat but the extra was enough to push you over to buy it then that extra becomes useless as you have so much you are not using now. Your just saving it up for something similar to come out.
Weird turn of events that someone that keeps only say 2 of everything in inventory and uses the rest on whatever is wasting resources but someone keeping everything for that one great champ came out the winner.
People are focused on one tiny sliver of possibilities: the players who a) received tons of 5* AGs and b) had no high value options to spend them on and c) spend them on relatively low impact awakenings and then d) did not have enough remaining to trade for the 6* AG. For those people specifically, sure, they "lost" while the players in the same situation as them but didn't spend the AGs "won." But for everyone else, the situation is different. Some UC player today who decides to start saving all of his AGs so he can get a 6* AG a year from now? He might be losing because he's holding back his roster, and thus his game progression, so that by the time he gets that AG he will still be far behind the player who decided to spend the AGs and use those champions efficiently to clear content faster.
Some of the guys who keep everything for that one great champ only look like winners. What they lost is invisible, but no less important. It is just impossible to prove they lost it.
This has happened before. The day Kabam announced that 6* champs were coming, a lot off high tier players said they were unfairly screwed by Kabam because they spent resources on 5* champs that could have been saved and put into 6* champs. Does that mean everyone should be saving all of their rank up resources until 7* champs arrive? We don't know if, or when, they will arrive, but if and when they do, all the people who rank up 6* champs in the week or month before they arrive will be at a disadvantage to the players who didn't and were saving rank up resources. Is that also a weird turn of events? It isn't to me, because that's just how things work when future opportunities are constantly changing and arriving.
Just using my buddy as an example. Saw me playing at work 5 months ago. He is playing hard but hoarding resources. Now he is at mordo map in act 6 and acquired his 1st r3. Just run through the rest and he will be new to tb in 6 months tops at his rate. That isn't a massive account going back to retry like Brian grant new cav in a week but 7 years experience that is brand new to tb.
He got the 6* trade up as well because of his hoarding nature. Didn't seem to impact him in the slightest.
Maybe another outlier account but it does show me it is the way. May not have been kabams intent but the outcome is still the same.
Spoke like a true kabam representative. Cheers!
First the knowledge of 6s, August 2017 Kabam announces 6s are coming next year and starts awarding shards.
Next the costs, in December 2017 5.4 is released making it possible for the first time ever to acquire the needed T5b to rank 5 a five star.
Then in January (can call it February as it was the last day of Jan) the first 6 star crystal is available in game.
It wouldn’t be for a number of months later that players would attain their 3rd T5b and be able to rank 3 a 6*.
Players were well aware of 6s before they could even spend the shared resources used ranking a 6 to rank their 5s.
Yes plenty of people were upset about the money/effort they put into acquiring their 5 star roster and sigging them up, because they felt that was soon to be obsolete, but as far as the rank up resources that didn’t happen.
Not by a lot, but a little.
Say t5b like you said those are overlapping resources that can be used by both a 5 and a 6. You should still sit down and make that decision now if r5 a max sig capiw better than r2 unawakened anyone you have or care to name.
Once you got some of those better champs up before you start doing outlier helpful but not always champs you should test them. Which I do, it's better to use 5 and try them as counters to certain stuff in act 6. Did that work? Now how about awaken? Yeah that worked well, I need to awaken that guy or the sig did absolutely nothing so ready for him to eat shared resources now.
This in effect made testing and trialing what works for you wasted. Because what was a 1 use resource just became shared and you need a lot of them to share that you can't acquire without hoarding.
There is no where for me to grind to get that now shared resource unless they are going to reset variants or something.
The shared cats you can do something about with content, aq, aw, luck on tb daily, whatever quests be it cav or eq or sq.
I get your side of the story, I truly do by some of your posts. You enjoy resource management and getting up resources and what not. Awesome and this feed you but I like testing odd balls and get joy out of things like doing the tech variant when it came out with prebuff punisher 2099 and redskull. Or that night carnage with my r1 unawakened Taskmaster.
This event shows from my perspective hoarding is the way and you can't change my mind on that. I'm ok with not getting this trade in. I truly am but hoard for the win became real. What next useless item will become the new swap to something better?
I'm more annoyed that how I enjoy playing the game is going away because of this. I can't miss an opportunity to get something of high value in game, so I can't do fun odd ball things. I can't make my own decisions of how that champ awakening effects that champ for myself or I'll steal future high end stuff from myself.
Even you got to see how from my perspective this has made hoarding and blindly following tier list seem the way of the future.
This event was a way to add value to an item that isn't valuable.