Champion that aged well in the contest

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  • Tru100Tru100 Member Posts: 260 ★★
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  • BigBusterBigBuster Member Posts: 292 ★★★

    Amazing how few people know how to correctly use Pyslocke and adjust her power control style based on opponent. Unlike other power controllers, she has several different ways to control power.

    Best way get defender to zero power with s1 now no power gain rest of fight unless you take hit. But what about power gain, okay method one won't work well but we got 2 more options so change your playstyle.

    Next option is use s1 right at top of defender power meter so when s1 hits last hit is Is low on the next bar of power. If you do it correctly, pyslocke will automatically gain an entire bar of power and you can spam nonstop s1 one after another all day long with zero build up.

    Also I don't know why people always overlook this but Pyslocke also has a power lock S2 just like Magik. People say often Magic power lock between than Pyslocke power control but they have the same s2 so that make no sense.

    Any argument to Pyslocke power control is by someone who doesn't know how to properly use her or adjust her style based on defender. She is a soft hitter though, but with apoc synergy (don't even need horseman) she packs a massive punch.

    The main issue with this is that the second method you bring up is hard to to use on faster power gain opponents, as you can't always time your sp1 so that it will bring the, below the power bar threshold. Also, the reason Magik's power control is so good is because she steals and locks the opponents power, rather than just locking it, which prevents little buildups of power from turning into bars of power and leading to a loss of control of the fight.
  • AzKicker316AzKicker316 Member Posts: 2,432 ★★★★★
    Magik is timeless. If and when they release her as a 6*, her limbo alone should be devastating, aside from her top notch power control.

    Iceman is another one who gets forgotten but is still damn good. Triple immunity, damaging coldsnap, ice shield. He's still useful even though he's not considered a top mutant.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Amazing how few people know how to correctly use Pyslocke and adjust her power control style based on opponent. Unlike other power controllers, she has several different ways to control power.

    Best way get defender to zero power with s1 now no power gain rest of fight unless you take hit. But what about power gain, okay method one won't work well but we got 2 more options so change your playstyle.

    Next option is use s1 right at top of defender power meter so when s1 hits last hit is Is low on the next bar of power. If you do it correctly, pyslocke will automatically gain an entire bar of power and you can spam nonstop s1 one after another all day long with zero build up.

    Also I don't know why people always overlook this but Pyslocke also has a power lock S2 just like Magik. People say often Magic power lock between than Pyslocke power control but they have the same s2 so that make no sense.

    Any argument to Pyslocke power control is by someone who doesn't know how to properly use her or adjust her style based on defender. She is a soft hitter though, but with apoc synergy (don't even need horseman) she packs a massive punch.

    On top of that, with the Mojo Synergy, Psylocke's Sp2 Power Lock reaches the same duration as Magik's and has a 100% chance to activate while Magik's only has an 85% chance.
    (Not to mention Psylocke's Sp3 that has a 10 Second Power Lock, 13 if you have Mojo, with the 100% Power Burn and 5.5 Second Stun.)

    This is not saying anything against Magik, she's one of my favorites as well, just that like you said a lot of people seem to not even know Psylocke's Abilities before trying to make a comparison.
    If both hits of SP2 land on the target Magik has a 2.25% chance to fail to power lock (each hit has the same 85% chance to power lock) so there's a 97.75% chance to get the power lock. The chance to fail is much lower than it first appears (and most people who use Magik intuitively know the lock doesn't have a 15% chance to fail), but it is there.

    I think the biggest knock on Psylocke as power control is that she has quite a bit more caveats to her power control than champions like Magik or even Dormammu. Her power lock has low duration, unless she has a synergy. Her zero lock is pretty powerful, unless the defender gets any power at all, even from striking the player. Her power control is in many respects more flexible, but for most players it also has the most ways it can fail. Magik, Dormammu, and even Doom are fairly tolerant of small mistakes, but Psylocke has to be played by someone who can play her precisely and without making any combat mistakes for her power control to be effective.
    Magiks chance to fail power lock is so low. Many still don't know that it's not guaranteed. Even after extensive use
  • RasiloverRasilover Member Posts: 1,478 ★★★★
    Clearly it’s Winter soldier for his amazing power level.

















    As being the main punching bag
  • JMORG1111JMORG1111 Member Posts: 182 ★★
    BigBuster said:

    Hoitado said:

    Addyos said:

    Magik


    No
    Name one champ that can lock down a champs power as well as her.
    Doc Oct. He is a monster for power lock. People sleep on that utility all the time.
  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 ★★★★★
    edited January 2022
    There are many who have aged like fine wine . But none comes close to Archangel .

    He is imho the best mutant in the game and with Apoc a "broken" champ . Hype comes close but AA is just legendary.
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,435 ★★★★★
    Rohit_316 said:

    There are many who have aged like fine wine . But none comes close to Archangel .

    He is imho the best mutant in the game and with Apoc a "broken" champ . Hype comes close but AA is just legendary.

    >best mutant in the game
    >Gets hard countered by bleed/poison immunity 🧐
  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 ★★★★★
    Terra said:

    Rohit_316 said:

    There are many who have aged like fine wine . But none comes close to Archangel .

    He is imho the best mutant in the game and with Apoc a "broken" champ . Hype comes close but AA is just legendary.

    >best mutant in the game
    >Gets hard countered by bleed/poison immunity 🧐
    Ghost - best tech /champ in the game
    > Gets hard countered by Armor break champs .

    Every champ has weakness . That doesn't take away their overall dominance.
  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★
    Rohit_316 said:

    Terra said:

    Rohit_316 said:

    There are many who have aged like fine wine . But none comes close to Archangel .

    He is imho the best mutant in the game and with Apoc a "broken" champ . Hype comes close but AA is just legendary.

    >best mutant in the game
    >Gets hard countered by bleed/poison immunity 🧐
    Ghost - best tech /champ in the game
    > Gets hard countered by Armor break champs .

    Every champ has weakness . That doesn't take away their overall dominance.
    Honestly, calling any mutant the best is a pretty ballsy move. I love AA, but he's not the 'best best'. And I think every good thing about him is instantly gone with bleed or poison immunity, which is fairly common.
    Armor break is less common, and in most cases is applied only a while into the fight. It's also avoidable in most circumstances.
    Yes all champions have their weakness, but AA is almost useless against a lot of champions right off the bat of the fight, as opposed to Ghost, where the opponent or node needs to apply armor break (of course there could be an instant armor break node that I'm not aware of).
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,532 ★★★★★
    Dock ock for passive power gain
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★
    Sparky.
  • The_greatestThe_greatest Member Posts: 6
    Hype 0 buffs super simple abilities list, nearly 0 synergies and still one of the more sought after champ
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,365 ★★★★★

    DNA3000 said:

    Amazing how few people know how to correctly use Pyslocke and adjust her power control style based on opponent. Unlike other power controllers, she has several different ways to control power.

    Best way get defender to zero power with s1 now no power gain rest of fight unless you take hit. But what about power gain, okay method one won't work well but we got 2 more options so change your playstyle.

    Next option is use s1 right at top of defender power meter so when s1 hits last hit is Is low on the next bar of power. If you do it correctly, pyslocke will automatically gain an entire bar of power and you can spam nonstop s1 one after another all day long with zero build up.

    Also I don't know why people always overlook this but Pyslocke also has a power lock S2 just like Magik. People say often Magic power lock between than Pyslocke power control but they have the same s2 so that make no sense.

    Any argument to Pyslocke power control is by someone who doesn't know how to properly use her or adjust her style based on defender. She is a soft hitter though, but with apoc synergy (don't even need horseman) she packs a massive punch.

    On top of that, with the Mojo Synergy, Psylocke's Sp2 Power Lock reaches the same duration as Magik's and has a 100% chance to activate while Magik's only has an 85% chance.
    (Not to mention Psylocke's Sp3 that has a 10 Second Power Lock, 13 if you have Mojo, with the 100% Power Burn and 5.5 Second Stun.)

    This is not saying anything against Magik, she's one of my favorites as well, just that like you said a lot of people seem to not even know Psylocke's Abilities before trying to make a comparison.
    If both hits of SP2 land on the target Magik has a 2.25% chance to fail to power lock (each hit has the same 85% chance to power lock) so there's a 97.75% chance to get the power lock. The chance to fail is much lower than it first appears (and most people who use Magik intuitively know the lock doesn't have a 15% chance to fail), but it is there.

    I think the biggest knock on Psylocke as power control is that she has quite a bit more caveats to her power control than champions like Magik or even Dormammu. Her power lock has low duration, unless she has a synergy. Her zero lock is pretty powerful, unless the defender gets any power at all, even from striking the player. Her power control is in many respects more flexible, but for most players it also has the most ways it can fail. Magik, Dormammu, and even Doom are fairly tolerant of small mistakes, but Psylocke has to be played by someone who can play her precisely and without making any combat mistakes for her power control to be effective.
    Magiks chance to fail power lock is so low. Many still don't know that it's not guaranteed. Even after extensive use
    I’ve been playing for about six years now and only just now learned Magik’s power lock ability accuracy wasn’t 100%. What a world.
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