A.I. when using Hercules.
Skydad23
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Has anyone else noticed that the AI acts completely different when you’re using Hercules? Might just be me but was curious if anyone else has noticed this?
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But I think it's a me problem, backdrafting in the middle of the arena with infiriate debuff can get some irregular AI.
I feel like people here are not entirely understanding the infuriate. Sure, it makes the defender "more aggressive" but one of the most common responses to a backdraft intercept (when the opponent is not backed up to the wall) is a light intercept. The infuriate likely increases the chance that they will just try to dash into you, but it doesn't reduce the chance of light intercept to zero. I would guess that you play with a much more aggressive playstyle with Herc than you do with most other champs, so you just get light intercepted more often than you do normally, but not more often than you should.
A small tutorial on backdraft intercepting for those not as used to it:
At some point mid-combo, instead of finishing a combo with a 4th light attack or a 2nd medium attack, you instead dash backwards (effectively ending your combo) and then dash back forward in an attempt to catch the defender unprepared and start a new combo without the need to parry, or waste time, or in some cases to manage their power level better.
When you dash back in to the opponent, there are really only a limited number of responses for them. They could:
throw a special attack (if you were desperate enough to do this while they are over 1 bar of power),
heavy attack (rare, but possible),
try to dash in to you (this is the best case scenario because of timing, eg. your forward dash will intercept their dash and congrats, you have successfully backdraft intercepted)
dash back (similar to above, but it is possible that your forward dash will interrupt this and you can continue the combo but annoyingly, this doesn't seem to count as an intercept for most nodes..... it's fine.....)
light attack in the middle of your forward dash, which can interrupt it and get you wrecked (which seems to be what people are complaining about here)
While Kabam seems to equate "more aggressive" (which is the description on Herc's infuriate debuff) with more likely to dash forward and attack , the likelihood of a light intercept on any other attempted backdraft is pretty high (I would guess anywhere from 30-50%) so reducing that does not mean that it is impossible. If you backdraft significantly more with Herc than other champions, you should be ready to get light intercepted more often.
As a separate note, I feel like AI differences have been fairly obvious throughout the game. Champions like Venom have always seemed a bit more aggressive, defenders with power sting or porker poppers seem more likely to hold on to the special attacks until after they have expired, etc. It is very possible that the AI indeed fights Herc differently, but it is also possible that you are playing him differently than you play other champs and prompting different responses from the AI. The defenders in Act 1-3 are ridiculously passive compared to later chapters. It would make sense that it is possible for them to specify certain defending patterns based upon scenarios like champion abilities.
Hopefully that all made sense. I also didn't add the backdraft tutorial to make people seem incompetent, but just as a heads up for newer players. It took me a long time to really get the hang of it and I like helping others.
Edit: grammar
What tickles me is that I’ve seen videos of people backdraft spamming against AI’s that have been far more aggressive than anyone I’ve ever tried to infuriate. So I kind of feel that infuriate is a misnomer and should have been called “mildly annoy” instead 😂.
Infuriate is a trap!
Infuriate makes the opponent more likely to be aggressive....
Uhm, light intercepting (backdraft or bot) or medium intercepting you is a pretty aggressive thing to do by the AI...
And you are complaining then that the AI is doing what they're supposed to do if they have infuriate on them?????? Huh????
Smh... seems to me your problem is assuming that light intercepting your backdraft is a behavior that is not supposed to be considered as "aggressive". If the opponent intercepts you ( backdraft or not) then it's being aggressive. Period. This is because the "non aggressive" thing to do by the AI would to block or evade/dex (if in arena) your dash. When you are attempting your backdraft maneuver you are effectively giving the AI a window to retaliate, and thus, an infuriated (hence aggressive) AI will retaliate. Period.
So what should YOU do then? Well if the opponent is infuriated then YOU SHOULD BE PASSIVE. YOU wait till they come at you and then YOU intercept them with medium, heavy or special. I really don't get the hullabaloo the OP is making out if this issue. Doing a backdraft intercept is NOT being passive on your end, it's actually a pretty actively aggressive way to trick the AI into dashing at you and well... AI does include in it the word INTELLIGENCE on it so the "intelligent " thing to do by the AI is to aggressively respond to your very active attempt to trick them into dashing at them . It really is that simple
If you read the dev notes in the spotlight, infuriate is meant to make backdraft intercept safer. In practice it does not. It’s a false sense of security.