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Suicides Mastery

Oddkinsons7Oddkinsons7 Posts: 45
edited April 2022 in Strategy and Tips
Hi experts here. I’m currently on cavalier, 6.2.4.

Was thinking if I should do suicides?

Can anyone advise on a good set up pls?

Thanks!
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  • tklmctklmc Posts: 54
    I played most(%70-80) of the content with sucidies, if u have right champs(corvus, omega, robots, diablo, claire voyant)why not? Also if u play arenas a lot I think it's mandatory
  • Strangecraft069Strangecraft069 Posts: 183
    edited April 2022

    Hi experts here. I’m currently on cavalier, 6.2.4.

    Was thinking if I should do suicides?

    Can anyone advise on a good set up pls?

    Thanks!

    If you have the units for it go for them (full suicides unlock not half)
    Why? Some months ago i did my act 6 completion, the damage from non suicides is visibly less (unless you plan on using champions like prof x)
    And yeah as for the health loss in between the fights, staying in fights for longer time gets you chip damage, tiredness and fatigue anyways. Free time kill in RoL gets you enough potions to be topped up.
    And even if you choose non suicides, life works that way too, i have act 7 completion, but haven't even unlocked glass canon completely, let alone recoil and post recoil stuff
  • PikoluPikolu Posts: 6,641 Guardian
    You don't need suicides unless you're using chanps that benefit a lot from suicides like OR. I've explored all of act 7 without suicides due to most of my roster being non-suicide friendly
  • awesomesauceawesomesauce Posts: 774 ★★★
    I think suicides are a lot better in Meta today than they were 2-3 years ago.

    Lot of champs can significantly gain benefits with little to no negative impact.
    Look at diablo, herc, knull, omega, red mags, corvus, kitty, iBom, sauron, toad, etc list goes on but these champs will literally heal back more than the damage they take from the damage over time effects.

    Additionally, look at some robot synergies like between Ultron, warlock and guillotine 2099. You'll literally start the fight with a fury and nearly a bar of power because of suicides.

    Then there's the traditional healing factor champs that mitigate the damage.

    Then even more champs that shrug the debuffs off.

    So even if the team or attackers you need specifically can't fit the above, there's other ways to mitigate the damage besides potions. Using mutants? Make the mutant a horseman and bring profX and colossus on the team. Now that poison is a source of Regen. Non mutant? Bring fury with Deadpool and you'll drop a debuff at the start of a fight and gain a Regen.

    These are just a few examples.

    And if a path seems difficult in recent content in act 7, there's what? 6 fights per path plus the boss? And you get to change out someone on your team for a specific boss counter!
  • MudcruncherMudcruncher Posts: 20
    I just use 1 gc 1 recoil 3 double edge as it times out where poison stays
  • awesomesauceawesomesauce Posts: 774 ★★★

    I just use 1 gc 1 recoil 3 double edge as it times out where poison stays

    IMO unless you go 3/3 in both LC and DE, don't do it.
  • LorddrewLorddrew Posts: 297 ★★
    Like Awesomness said above, if you get recoil, unlock all otherwise don't.
    on the side, I'm 99% suicide mastery, and my look on allot of champions changed, i pull some champions that are god tier or above and i simply don't rank because of suicide (prof x for example)
  • awesomesauceawesomesauce Posts: 774 ★★★
    Lorddrew said:

    Like Awesomness said above, if you get recoil, unlock all otherwise don't.
    on the side, I'm 99% suicide mastery, and my look on allot of champions changed, i pull some champions that are god tier or above and i simply don't rank because of suicide (prof x for example)

    I feel that sentiment, but in a normal quest (Eq/story) you can still utilize prof X for a couple fights at the start of the quest, sure he won't survive long but his persistent charges will benefit the rest of the team for the remainder of the quest.
  • ErcarretErcarret Posts: 2,733 ★★★★★
    I can really only echo what others have said. I like running suicides but they can feel very restrictive and at times you find yourself fighting a node that somehow turns those masteries against you in a way that you're never punished for any other mastery setup.

    Remember to unlock Willpower as well. It's an essential part of the suicide kit.
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