Thronebreakers and Paragons should've had different starting ratings

I have 3 rank 3 6*'s, I'm still a decently new Thronebreaker, this guy is a god tier Paragon, his entire thing was just rank 3 6*'s

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Mqc19

And if so better rewards

Colinwhitworth69

I like the challenge. There’s no stakes except energy costs. Win some, lose some.

SirGamesBond

Waiting for them to keep the ratings same for consecutive BGs.
Then everyone will fall at their right place just like alliances do season after season.

Ceder

The energy cost is insanely high

Ceder

That's agreeable

Mackey

Why better rewards? TB don't get better rewards than Cav who start on 150, so why should paragon if that was the case 🤔

I do think paragon should of started maybe 50 rating higher but it doesn't affect me too much, I enjoy letting them leave with a bitter taste 😂😂👌

Mackey

Especially now they introduced rank rewards, makes people push more and then with all the modders it really doesn't bode well

Kabam Jax

Hey Summoners!

The matchmaking is designed in a way where it will level out over time. The first day or two there is a very high concentration of players in a tight bracket. The more games everyone plays, the more accurately it groups players of similar ranking and ability.

Ceder

So we're just not supposed to play for a whole week before it levels out? It's been a day and it still hasn't leveled out

GinjabredMonsta

"The first day or two..."

MrFullStop

will it reset again in the next beta?

dangarang122

Yeah, I'm literally a new TB, with only 1 r3, and I keep getting matched with people much higher than me in terms of roster, with whole teams of rank 3s...

Dark_hoods

but if you stay at around 300 rating over the next weeks any paragons who havent played are gonna get matched with thronebreakers still

ccrider474

I don't know if that would make a huge difference. As you would still run into that. I'm a tb and my deck is all at least r3 with more on the bench. Unfortunately their isn't really anything kabam can truly do to swap it up a bit until everyone actually plays it heaps and gets to where they actually belong.

Mackey

If that is the case then why is there a difference in rating between TB and Cav players?

By putting paragon -let's say- 50 rating higher than TB you'll eliminate this "buffer" period as the top end TB will quickly reach the rating of most paragon players while those low level TB (which btw only requires 1 r3 champ, so to have to face multiple r4s is just absurd) players will be matched with other low to mid level TB players.

The amount of r4s I'm seeing is ridiculous, don't get me wrong I like a challenge but it is unfair continously facing account with 6/7 r4s that just annihilate most my r3s within 30 seconds. The reduction in time doesn't help anything in the slightest either.

Edit - I find it somewhat counterproductive to have it so "the more games everyone plays, the more accurately it groups players of similar ranking and ability". You need more people to play for it to balance out, but why are people going to keep playing when they're just wasting energy and losing a lot of their matches, they won't, and why should they

The_man001

It will take quite a longer time to level up.
In my alliance everyone is very active and and nearly everyone is thronebreakers + and only 5 of them had played a bg now.last 2 beta like 20 of them played.

Its needs too much energy to do eq exploration. Not enough to run battlegrounds

DNA3000

The way ELO ratings work, you're supposed to play until you arrive at your properly adjusted rating.

I would casually expect ordinality to begin to converge after about log2(X) matches, where X is the approximate number of players in the largest starting bracket. So if there are, say, about 5000 players actively participating in battlegrounds in the TB and up starting bracket, I would expect things to settle down after the average player has played in about twelve or thirteen matchups. This wouldn't mean everyone would be where they were supposed to be, only that they would be in the general vicinity of it.

You can't just sit on the sidelines and expect everything else to settle around you. That's because there's no way to know if your own rating is accurate relative to everyone else's. The only way to know that is to play, and either win or lose against the competition. Winning and losing is the only way to determine who your proper competition should be.

Ceder

Except that doesn't work, I'm averaging out around 300-315, I lose about half my matches, that's alot of energy lost, it doesn't even out, and it probably won't, if they expect it to even out then they should've cut the energy cost down to 10 so people can actually play it more

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Squirrelguy

Lol right?

So for those unaware, if you end up (after a reasonable amount of time) losing and winning half your matches, you’ve probably evened out, or found your approximate rating. If your average score varies more than 15-30 points, then you might be experiencing flux as more players are not at their appropriate ratings, but eventually, it should even out.

Also, if you do not think you have a decent enough roster (Aka unless you have crazy skill or probably at least 1 6* R4 and an appropriately sized roster) I would 100% suggest just tanking your score to get easy matchups lower down. Only the top of the bracket gets rank-related scores, but the rewards from milestones are really solid regardless.

DNA3000

If you're losing about half your matches, that also means you're winning half your matches. The game is matching you against players of roughly even strength as yourself. In ELO competitions, that's the definition of fair match ups.

Ceder

Tanking down so you can win easily is scummy

Shep

I'm 12000 prestige and I'm constantly being matched with... 14000 to 15000 plus. I definitely think it should be done by prestige and not by Progression title .

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