Alliance war rating - strange numbers

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  • Gigetto17Gigetto17 Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2022
    i'm an officer of my alliance, at the end of alliance war 6 against [LF100] of the current season 35 we've placed in gold 1 position 92, at the end of war 7 against [EVA] that finished today, with a victory, we've placed in gold 1 position 103. What the [fart] is going on? Correct the alliance war rating! it's impossible that we 've lost 11 position with a victory! This season we've never lost a single war and we moved from tier 7 to tier 6! I've already reported a bug occoured in offseason 35, that alliance war rating was locked for alliances in tier 7 and you didn't do anything, but now i'm sick of all of this situation. With your bugs, you're penalizing good alliances that deserve to place in higher tier!
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,661 Guardian
    Gigetto17 said:

    i'm an officer of my alliance, at the end of alliance war 6 against [LF100] of the current season 35 we've placed in gold 1 position 92, at the end of war 7 against [EVA] that finished today, with a victory, we've placed in gold 1 position 103. What the [fart] is going on? Correct the alliance war rating! it's impossible that we 've lost 11 position with a victory! This season we've never lost a single war and we moved from tier 7 to tier 6! I've already reported a bug occoured in offseason 35, that alliance war rating was locked for alliances in tier 7 and you didn't do anything, but now i'm sick of all of this situation. With your bugs, you're penalizing good alliances that deserve to place in higher tier!

    To @Gigetto17 pics above.

    Your post-war-6 pic looks like it was captured around same time of day (right after war ended) as your most recent one after this war-7.

    In both cases, your position is not really accurate yet until some hours later when all the other alliances wars get factored into the standings.

    You should do a more accurate screenshot of current rankings later on in the day, or next day, for what you keep for reference.

    Aka, your points right after a war get added into what you can “see” in the standings (they were from your own war, so your system knows what to add.
    But even though other alliances around you who may have finished around the same time, you don’t actually get to “see” those other alliances recent points added into the rankings until later on in the day (when all of the wars points get propagated out system-wide).

    Aka(2) you probably see a jump in ranking right after your war ends, only to later on in day see that ranking fall back down to what it really is.

    Some other alliances new points may or may not be factored into what your ranking reflects, sooner or later than others, or might be by region, or tier, etc. But if you wait until later on, eventually all alliances are factored into the “final” current standings for that day.
  • Gigetto17Gigetto17 Member Posts: 12

    Gigetto17 said:

    i'm an officer of my alliance, at the end of alliance war 6 against [LF100] of the current season 35 we've placed in gold 1 position 92, at the end of war 7 against [EVA] that finished today, with a victory, we've placed in gold 1 position 103. What the [fart] is going on? Correct the alliance war rating! it's impossible that we 've lost 11 position with a victory! This season we've never lost a single war and we moved from tier 7 to tier 6! I've already reported a bug occoured in offseason 35, that alliance war rating was locked for alliances in tier 7 and you didn't do anything, but now i'm sick of all of this situation. With your bugs, you're penalizing good alliances that deserve to place in higher tier!

    To @Gigetto17 pics above.

    Your post-war-6 pic looks like it was captured around same time of day (right after war ended) as your most recent one after this war-7.

    In both cases, your position is not really accurate yet until some hours later when all the other alliances wars get factored into the standings.

    You should do a more accurate screenshot of current rankings later on in the day, or next day, for what you keep for reference.

    Aka, your points right after a war get added into what you can “see” in the standings (they were from your own war, so your system knows what to add.
    But even though other alliances around you who may have finished around the same time, you don’t actually get to “see” those other alliances recent points added into the rankings until later on in the day (when all of the wars points get propagated out system-wide).

    Aka(2) you probably see a jump in ranking right after your war ends, only to later on in day see that ranking fall back down to what it really is.

    Some other alliances new points may or may not be factored into what your ranking reflects, sooner or later than others, or might be by region, or tier, etc. But if you wait until later on, eventually all alliances are factored into the “final” current standings for that day.
    Both screenshot were captured right after the war, but the position after war 6 (position 92 in gold 1) remained the same all day until war 7 ended, i can swear it with all my alliance members
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,661 Guardian
    @Gigetto17
    I took 3 screenshots (starting after commenting initially)
    28 min ago we were at 975 (within our Gold bracket)
    18 min ago, was at 1063
    Just now, is at 1169

    Don’t remember where we were at while the war was going on.
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  • Gigetto17Gigetto17 Member Posts: 12

    @Gigetto17
    I took 3 screenshots (starting after commenting initially)
    28 min ago we were at 975 (within our Gold bracket)
    18 min ago, was at 1063
    Just now, is at 1169

    Don’t remember where we were at while the war was going on.

    2 hours later same position 103, despite victory - 11 positions
  • Luckylefty01Luckylefty01 Member Posts: 156
    After the most recent war finished in which we won my alliance dropped 9 places in rank. We are currently 7-0.

    Looking forward to whatever resolution kabam decides on
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Member Posts: 2,017 ★★★★
    Yeah it’s because your competing with alliances like mine who are in tier 6, similar rank, we’ve won half and lost half, but our multiplier stays the same, because of the lower +- you aren’t moving tiers like we usually do, its messed up
  • Zeft5araZeft5ara Member Posts: 16
    Jax said they have eyes on this about 2 weeks ago
    Has there been no updates?
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,562 ★★★★★
    Zeft5ara said:

    Jax said they have eyes on this about 2 weeks ago
    Has there been no updates?

    Yes its a bug and they're not going to fix it until after the season.
  • Burrito2525Burrito2525 Member Posts: 520 ★★★
    edited July 2022
    Seems this is the main chat regarding the topic, i posted in another but the gist is my all has won every war this season so far and we keep slowing dropping places in g2…. Can’t more out of tier 8 to save our lives. How is this fair…. We might as well just stop at this point and ride it out. Maybe we stay g2.. maybe not. But why spend resources to have clean wars for no advancement. This would have 100% been canceled if the tier 1 Allie’s were affected….
  • Burrito2525Burrito2525 Member Posts: 520 ★★★
    Why do so,e threads not get bumped when replying…. Anyway, still a perfect season over here and still slowly dropping in rank…. What’s going on kabamm
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  • Goll3m_1Goll3m_1 Member Posts: 29
    9 wins in a row… all at 11/12 points…where it used to be 40. Is this right?
  • Burrito2525Burrito2525 Member Posts: 520 ★★★
    No, same here. 10-0. 15 points a war. Haven’t moved in standings at all

    Crickets from kabamm
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  • SandeepSSandeepS Member Posts: 1,267 ★★★★
    Although its impacted all alliances the same, I dont think that's justification to do nothing. Everyone is aware of the way the scoring worked and strategise accordingly. For example they may tank a war to get an easier match. If they knew the scoring would penalise losses more and they wouldnt be able to get to their original AW rating as quick, that would change their strategy.

    As a result of the change, its disadvantaged those who strategise by the old scoring methods. It is probably magnified more by the fact that people may not realise the impact as they dont look into the intricacies of the scoring or check the forum.

    Simple fix would be to give everyone the rewards of the rank higher in my opinion. May give some people more than they deserve but at least wouldn't disadvantage those who would have otherwise got better rewards.
  • Luckylefty01Luckylefty01 Member Posts: 156
    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    As I previously mentioned, this was brought to our attention and is something we've been investigating.

    The scoring system was adjusted in this AW season; this was not intentional and therefore is not a new norm. We have found the cause of the issue but will not be able to implement a change until the next season. While I know this has been frustrating, please be aware that the scoring issue is affecting all alliances equally, not just yours.

    We are going to continue to monitor the impact of this change through the season and will reconvene afterwards to see what further action needs to be/can be taken.

    With war season at the end, I’m just curious what will be the result of this points error.
  • Lestat2499Lestat2499 Member Posts: 289 ★★★
    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    As I previously mentioned, this was brought to our attention and is something we've been investigating.

    The scoring system was adjusted in this AW season; this was not intentional and therefore is not a new norm. We have found the cause of the issue but will not be able to implement a change until the next season. While I know this has been frustrating, please be aware that the scoring issue is affecting all alliances equally, not just yours.

    We are going to continue to monitor the impact of this change through the season and will reconvene afterwards to see what further action needs to be/can be taken.

    Kabam Jax said:

    Hey Summoners,

    As I previously mentioned, this was brought to our attention and is something we've been investigating.

    The scoring system was adjusted in this AW season; this was not intentional and therefore is not a new norm. We have found the cause of the issue but will not be able to implement a change until the next season. While I know this has been frustrating, please be aware that the scoring issue is affecting all alliances equally, not just yours.

    We are going to continue to monitor the impact of this change through the season and will reconvene afterwards to see what further action needs to be/can be taken.

    Will rewards for war season be adjusted? It’s obvious this affected alliances negatively. It shouldn’t be swept under the rug and hope nobody mentions it.
  • AndyBro59AndyBro59 Member Posts: 10
    So now that new season started and scoring is back to normal is anything going to be done about last season and the unfair scoring?
  • Gigetto17Gigetto17 Member Posts: 12
    AndyBro59 said:

    So now that new season started and scoring is back to normal is anything going to be done about last season and the unfair scoring?

    Nothing of nothing, as always.
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