Why was Act 6 Buffed?
Pete_Niko
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The champs are ridiculous now in act 6. All are around or above 30K, and super aggressive. Also, when I preview, to see which champs to bring, the defenders are roughly 3 times smaller. WTH?
Everyone says it was nerfed, but I watched Seatin’s original videos, from when he first explored act 6, and all the champs are smaller, less aggressive, and there were no glitches, (Dropped inputs or parry issues).
The way it looks now, I will never be able to explore act 6. There’s always some miraculous defensive attack out of nowhere, and I’m dead with an equally miraculous combo.
I’m open to being wrong, but this seems impossible, without revives. It this a pay wall, to force us to use revives?
I’ve been playing for 2 years as a whale, and I have some of the best 6*’s in the game, but I can’t even consider taking on act 6.
My top awakened 6* Champs:
Herc: R4
Sabretooth R3
Doom R3
Silver Surfer R3
Kitty Pride R3
RMags R3
Apoc R3
AA R3
Bishop R3
BWCV R3
BWDO R3
Venom R3
Storm R3
Spider-Ham R3
Hit Monkey R3
Ultron R3
Sunspot R3
I-Hulk R3
Corvus R3
I would think I should be Able to destroy act 6, but nope.
Any guidance would be appreciated. I’m very down about the game
Thanks!
Everyone says it was nerfed, but I watched Seatin’s original videos, from when he first explored act 6, and all the champs are smaller, less aggressive, and there were no glitches, (Dropped inputs or parry issues).
The way it looks now, I will never be able to explore act 6. There’s always some miraculous defensive attack out of nowhere, and I’m dead with an equally miraculous combo.
I’m open to being wrong, but this seems impossible, without revives. It this a pay wall, to force us to use revives?
I’ve been playing for 2 years as a whale, and I have some of the best 6*’s in the game, but I can’t even consider taking on act 6.
My top awakened 6* Champs:
Herc: R4
Sabretooth R3
Doom R3
Silver Surfer R3
Kitty Pride R3
RMags R3
Apoc R3
AA R3
Bishop R3
BWCV R3
BWDO R3
Venom R3
Storm R3
Spider-Ham R3
Hit Monkey R3
Ultron R3
Sunspot R3
I-Hulk R3
Corvus R3
I would think I should be Able to destroy act 6, but nope.
Any guidance would be appreciated. I’m very down about the game
Thanks!
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Is 6* a typo??
Your a whale but worried to use a revive here and there? Really confused but most lanes are solo-able with Hercules. Figure it out
I have similar number of R3s but different rank ups
Act 6 only needed energy revamp and kabam did it. In my books, With such roster , act exploration it should be easy or just average fights
I did most of it without revives only used a few on GM fight and 6.3 cap. Rest was cakewalk! I even took the champion boss with 3 nodes each without a sweat!
Before the nerf even completion was a pain!
Not even to mention rank 4 Hercules.
Act 6 was 100%able with only 5*s before the 3 rounds of nerfs to make it easier, if you’re struggling with 6* rank 4s and rank 3s after the nerfs, I’m afraid that’s not a content issue.
It’s not a pay wall. It’s a skill wall you can get around by paying if you want.
My advice would be practice, take one path at a time (duh, but I mean it like don’t get overwhelmed with exploration) and ask for help or advice when necessary. Look at the path you’re stuck on and choose the right team for it (that’s a huge chunk of being able to do the path). People on the forum are generally very happy to give advice, so feel free to ask for specifics!
You've been whaling out and using unit man to get through most content and buying the offers to get the champs thinking that will make you better.
Now that you know it isn't the champs, instead of realizing you haven't learned how to properly play the game you are blaming a fake buff to content that many of us beat back in the days with just 5*s and before it was nerfed twice.
With the understanding that my skill level is not that great, I still feel as though I must be missing some big trick or something. Only recently did I become aware of NOT doing 5 hit combos, but doing a 3 hit, then dashing back and forward for another 3 hit combo, as well as some other attack combinations. I used to do MLLLM for pretty much every combo.
Regarding defender's attacks, I'm also guessing there is some combo/s used by AI, that you all know, and have known for a long time so you don't even think about it; however, for me, I don't know this AI combo and I get destroyed every time. I have to rely on reaction time to get parries or dex's, but the new AI hesitates and pauses and stutters and then hits me a millisecond after a stutter (that made me tap the screen), so then I get smashed. Again, this seems like a buff to me, not a nerf.
I see videos of act 6 gameplay, where the attackers successfully parry attacks when the defender is almost right next to them, and they do this over and over again, having perfect matches whilst never getting hit. That's complete bs. There's no way any human has that good of a reaction time, and never misses a parry, unless of course there is a trick or a known combo that the AI always uses. Or, maybe those videos are click bait and created by cheaters???? That's a stretch, but I'm grasping at straws.
Fun note about the perfect gameplay videos: These gameplays often have attackers using an R3, but they don't even try to get the 20% bonus. This is what makes me think it could be cheaters, maybe using some program where they can't touch the screen??? Why would they not want the bonus, or even try for it?? Makes no sense. You are literally perfect for gameplay, but can't even hit the yellow portion of the bonus bar??? Again, BS...
This is the Seatin Video I was referring to.
Recap:
What specifically was nerfed?
Why are preview champ sizes smaller?
What's the secret to never getting hit?
Second part; the secret is spending time actually playing the game and not paying the game.
So yeah. Git gud is the only advice I can give.
You are correct, the PI values (6.1 in particular) did go up.
This was because the Hit Points of the champs went up.
Kabam said they did this, because they were averaging out the Hit Points for the paths.
Less champs on one path, led to increased hit points per champ and higher PI on that path.
Summoners that 100% the early days/early parts of Act 6 are less aware of this.
There are other changes that make it easier (lower attack values, nodes that allow champ replacement, fewer nodes), but most of that is 6.2, 6.3, 6.4.
Thanks to those that gave real answers, but sadly I'm not convinced. The answers I'm hearing is play more, but I've played a ton in the past 2 years and have explored act 5, and I honestly don't think I'm that terrible. Maybe I'll try act 5 again with 4 star champs for reference. I still don't believe it's possible that anyone can completely avoid getting hit, without previous knowledge of attack patterns, or cheating.
Lastly, I do spend money on champs, and try to avoid buying my way through paths, but I did spend some money on the GM.
Thanks again!
Now on to you… your problem lies within your skill as everyone has said. Herc at rank 4 should be able to steam roll all of act 6 except a few fights here and there. With your roster back even before the nerf it would have been do-able with minimal unit spend, probably just stash used. Now with that roster I guarantee 60% or more of folks who cleared it pre nerf would 1-2 revive each quest all 6 paths
As a lot have said stop spending your money on the game and start spending your time getting better. Or if you chose to keep your way of spending don’t make false claims of act 6 being buffed when it wasn’t.
on the getting hit thing.
You are correct, old videos are before the controls issue, and you could play perfectly.
Now we have bad controls.
Current videos do show guys getting hit.
This multi-million company has been unable to solve basic control issues for over a year.
Some people believe it is actually working as intended (Continuously Variable Defense hit boxes interacting with Continuously Variable Offense speed).
Despite that, the controls are better than most other fighting games.
The art, character complexity, game feel, etc are still amazing.
The game has changed dramatically since then, it's so much easier to get way higher champs and there are so many more op and better champs back. Why is this important? This of us who learned to play years ago had to learn how to play the game well, we had to master parry, intercept, heavy bait, special bait, reparry, etc.
Now someone can buy a few offers, get crazy op champs ranked very high and just strong arm their way through content without mastering the basics. Eventually this method catches up because at a point in the game you can't just muscle through everything with champs way strong than what the content was originally made for.
At this point when this happens to people, they have similar frustrations as you do. The best advice that can be given has already been given by many. Basically, you need to get back to basics, watch some yt vids, understand nodes, learn best counters on defenders and certain nodes, practice the fundamentals.
Take a step back for a bit, maybe explore earlier content with weaker champs as others suggested and force yourself to enhance your skills instead of muscling through it.
Your roster isn't the problem. I'm not going to go as far as say skill like some above (but it certainly could be)... it may be that there are counters / interactions you aren't familiar with.
After identifying that... youtube is a great source for help, as will be your alliance mates and if all else fails... the trolls in this forum.