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Tenma · January 2023

It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,

ItsDamien · January 2023

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,

The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.

K00shMaan · January 2023

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.

You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.

Demonzfyre · January 2023

K00shMaan said:

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.
You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Coppin · January 2023

It's done for a reason...
It has been the biggest issue with the game.. people with over inflated rosters staying at lower progression levels.. Cav players with multiple r3s just staying Cav for example.

Captainaiden · January 2023

What?

K00shMaan · January 2023

Demonzfyre said:

K00shMaan said:

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.
You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.
It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

I'm saying that prior to TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ reward 30% R4 Materials. Now that there is TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ provides 0 and only an initial clear of TBEQ provides 10% R4 Materials, even if you explore Chapter 1 and 2 but not 3, the rewards are only 20% of R4 Materials. You have to fully explore a harder difficulty than before to actually surpass what you got earlier. That's what I mean when I say the rewards were nerfed.

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Pikolu · January 2023

K00shMaan said:

Demonzfyre said:

K00shMaan said:

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.
You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.
It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

I'm saying that prior to TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ reward 30% R4 Materials. Now that there is TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ provides 0 and only an initial clear of TBEQ provides 10% R4 Materials, even if you explore Chapter 1 and 2 but not 3, the rewards are only 20% of R4 Materials. You have to fully explore a harder difficulty than before to actually surpass what you got earlier. That's what I mean when I say the rewards were nerfed.

That was a TB+ objective, so it makes sense that the TB difficulty will absorb the objective since TB+ people now have a new EQ to do instead of Cav EQ

Demonzfyre · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.

Demonzfyre · January 2023

K00shMaan said:

Demonzfyre said:

K00shMaan said:

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.
You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.
It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

I'm saying that prior to TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ reward 30% R4 Materials. Now that there is TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ provides 0 and only an initial clear of TBEQ provides 10% R4 Materials, even if you explore Chapter 1 and 2 but not 3, the rewards are only 20% of R4 Materials. You have to fully explore a harder difficulty than before to actually surpass what you got earlier. That's what I mean when I say the rewards were nerfed.

Fully exploring TBEQ gives you the same amount as the objective. That's where the objectives went, to exploration rewards of TBEQ. These were for TB+ players. Not for anyone who could do CavEQ.

TBEQ is not difficult. Here is a 5* Apoc I have R5 doing TBEQ-

https://youtu.be/073m6Mp98wg

It's the same nodes as what CavEQ had plus a couple of new ones. CavEQ difficulty also dropped. The easy path now has no nodes and 2 classes now get bonuses. You're wrong about all of this.

K00shMaan · January 2023

Demonzfyre said:

K00shMaan said:

Demonzfyre said:

K00shMaan said:

ItsDamien said:

Tenma said:
It is incredible that kabam, instead of improving the rewards of the missions, is better removing them. I can't believe that they have removed the fragments of the grade 6 catalysts that gave the knight mission 100% exploration, that's like closing the opportunity to progress to those of us who are at the lowest level,
The lowest level has many more ways of progressing than those nearer the top.
You're not wrong but you also can't argue against the fact that CavEQ rewards got nerfed. Not getting the 30% of each of the R4 Materials was the most significant reward. No you get 0 of them from CavEQ and even a completing TBEQ doesn't give you the same amount as before. You have to explore it. They could have kept the Solo Objective and maybe reworded it to fully explore CavEQ or TBEQ.
It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

I'm saying that prior to TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ reward 30% R4 Materials. Now that there is TBEQ, fully exploring CavEQ provides 0 and only an initial clear of TBEQ provides 10% R4 Materials, even if you explore Chapter 1 and 2 but not 3, the rewards are only 20% of R4 Materials. You have to fully explore a harder difficulty than before to actually surpass what you got earlier. That's what I mean when I say the rewards were nerfed.
Fully exploring TBEQ gives you the same amount as the objective. That's where the objectives went, to exploration rewards of TBEQ. These were for TB+ players. Not for anyone who could do CavEQ.

TBEQ is not difficult. Here is a 5* Apoc I have R5 doing TBEQ-
https://youtu.be/073m6Mp98wg

It's the same nodes as what CavEQ had plus a couple of new ones. CavEQ difficulty also dropped. The easy path now has no nodes and 2 classes now get bonuses. You're wrong about all of this.

I'd argue that CavEQ isn't necessarily easier now. getting a 40% Attack boost for one class, a 20% Attack Boost for another, is not the same as a 350% Attack Boost which is what the old nodes and current TB nodes offer. It might be less restrictive but not necessarily easier. I'm not going to have a problem getting any of these rewards but they didn't say it was temporary at the time of release so it's a bit of a scumbag move to say it later on.

GeneralMerce · January 2023

the objective was only for people thronebreaker and above... so with the new thronbreaker and above EQ, it makes sense that those rewards were added to TB+ EQ.

if you want, @Kabam could just NOT give any R4 mats for TB+ EQ exploration and leave it as the objective to 100% TB EQ... it would literally be the same. EXCEPT now you get more so be happy. R4 mats are so much easier to get over the last few months and you want more? greedy!

Hort4 · January 2023

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.

Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.

Coppin · January 2023

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.

Wait are u saying that giving more r4 mats is better?... 😱😱😱

K00shMaan · January 2023

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.

This. Don't blame the community for not understanding something that you failed to communicate to us. And it's funnier because they could've edited that post to include that it was temporary any time after the fact but they didn't (and still haven't).

Demonzfyre · January 2023

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.

They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.

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Demonzfyre · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.
They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.
No… you're apparently having difficulty reading because I explicitly asked when, where and how it was communicated that R4 resources would be removed from Cav awards.

Even if it was some random offhanded post that it was temporary, that’s a pretty huge change from the initial award increase announcement you posted, for there not to be an official follow-up announcement of some kind.

The objective announcement was at the bottom of the entire announcement for the changes to rewards. It's literally a footnote. It's not a huge change.

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Coppin · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.
They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.
No… you're apparently having difficulty reading because I explicitly asked when, where and how it was communicated that R4 resources would be removed from Cav awards.

Even if it was some random offhanded post that it was temporary, that’s a pretty huge change from the initial award increase announcement you posted, for there not to be an official follow-up announcement of some kind.
The objective announcement was at the bottom of the entire announcement for the changes to rewards. It's literally a footnote. It's not a huge change.
Again, the announcement you posted is referring to the ADDITION of new rewards TB+ players can get by fully exploring Cav difficulty.

It says nothing about it being a temporary change, would be removed or that the rewards would eventually move to a higher difficulty once that was released.

I know you’re a great player with a killer roster, but I’m going out on a limb here and guessing there are quite a few new and/or casual TB players who aren’t quite ready to explore TB but could explore Cav that are getting screwed by this.

So.. a new or casual TB who can't finish an EQ... Gotta have that 1 r4 instead of developing a wide roster to finish TB difficulty? 🤔

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Demonzfyre · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Coppin said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.
They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.
No… you're apparently having difficulty reading because I explicitly asked when, where and how it was communicated that R4 resources would be removed from Cav awards.

Even if it was some random offhanded post that it was temporary, that’s a pretty huge change from the initial award increase announcement you posted, for there not to be an official follow-up announcement of some kind.
The objective announcement was at the bottom of the entire announcement for the changes to rewards. It's literally a footnote. It's not a huge change.
Again, the announcement you posted is referring to the ADDITION of new rewards TB+ players can get by fully exploring Cav difficulty.

It says nothing about it being a temporary change, would be removed or that the rewards would eventually move to a higher difficulty once that was released.

I know you’re a great player with a killer roster, but I’m going out on a limb here and guessing there are quite a few new and/or casual TB players who aren’t quite ready to explore TB but could explore Cav that are getting screwed by this.
So.. a new or casual TB who can't finish an EQ... Gotta have that 1 r4 instead of developing a wide roster to finish TB difficulty? 🤔
Yup.

Those who lack all the end-game skills can oftentimes make up for it with additional power and larger health pools.

On the other hand, I have one R4, bought and paid for with cash money, and it didn’t help me get through my single pass of TB. I tried using champs suited for the nodes and, other than a few circumstances, that turned out to be a terrible idea.

Honestly, I find your comment especially entertaining and ironic because most players in YouTube and on this board who have a half dozen+ R4’s and dozens of R3’s talk continuously about how the nodes are basically meaningless and that they just all power through the content with their best champs.

Pretty nice problem to have, if you ask me.

You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.

ItsDamien · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Coppin said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.
They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.
No… you're apparently having difficulty reading because I explicitly asked when, where and how it was communicated that R4 resources would be removed from Cav awards.

Even if it was some random offhanded post that it was temporary, that’s a pretty huge change from the initial award increase announcement you posted, for there not to be an official follow-up announcement of some kind.
The objective announcement was at the bottom of the entire announcement for the changes to rewards. It's literally a footnote. It's not a huge change.
Again, the announcement you posted is referring to the ADDITION of new rewards TB+ players can get by fully exploring Cav difficulty.

It says nothing about it being a temporary change, would be removed or that the rewards would eventually move to a higher difficulty once that was released.

I know you’re a great player with a killer roster, but I’m going out on a limb here and guessing there are quite a few new and/or casual TB players who aren’t quite ready to explore TB but could explore Cav that are getting screwed by this.
So.. a new or casual TB who can't finish an EQ... Gotta have that 1 r4 instead of developing a wide roster to finish TB difficulty? 🤔
Yup.

Those who lack all the end-game skills can oftentimes make up for it with additional power and larger health pools.

On the other hand, I have one R4, bought and paid for with cash money, and it didn’t help me get through my single pass of TB. I tried using champs suited for the nodes and, other than a few circumstances, that turned out to be a terrible idea.

Honestly, I find your comment especially entertaining and ironic because most players in YouTube and on this board who have a half dozen+ R4’s and dozens of R3’s talk continuously about how the nodes are basically meaningless and that they just all power through the content with their best champs.

Pretty nice problem to have, if you ask me.

Most of the players who have that roster developed them by ranking up a wide variety of champs to help them in all the content that rewards the best things. Most of those players did harder content than TBEQ with champs that were R2 or equivalent. If you’re not widening your roster and only focusing on increases the power of one particular champ then you’ll always hit a roadblock. 30% of 1 T6B and T3A isn’t going to help you when it takes 10 months to earn enough for a single rank 4. You’re going to have to do the content that is more appropriate for your skill level to progress.

Besides TBEQ can be explored with R5 5* and a little effort.

Coppin · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Coppin said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

Hort4 said:

Demonzfyre said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:

It was a place holder until TB difficulty came out. It wasn't a nerf, it wasn't ever supposed to be permanent. Those rewards are now included in the TB difficulty where they intended them to be. So I am not sure how you think TB doesn't give as many as before since it gives more.

Serious question … was it explicitly stated by Kabam that they were only adding R4 resources to Cav difficulty temporarily until TB difficulty came out?

How was this communicated? On the forums? In game message?

Was it announced ahead of time or after the fact?

Just curious … I’ve been gone for a while and I have no recollection of them ever doing this with EQ rewards in the past, when new difficulties were released.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/307647/we-are-updating-event-quest-rewards-for-master-uncollected-and-cavalier-summoners#latest

At the bottom of the page. And was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary.
Looked at the link you provided. No where did it say it was temporary in cav level. Would have been better off leaving it where it was at and adding more to thronebreaker difficulty.
They asked where it was announced. It didn't say this link did it was temporary. I said it was later confirmed by Miike or Jax that it was temporary. Not sure if it's because you're ignoring was I said on purpose or you just can't read.
No… you're apparently having difficulty reading because I explicitly asked when, where and how it was communicated that R4 resources would be removed from Cav awards.

Even if it was some random offhanded post that it was temporary, that’s a pretty huge change from the initial award increase announcement you posted, for there not to be an official follow-up announcement of some kind.
The objective announcement was at the bottom of the entire announcement for the changes to rewards. It's literally a footnote. It's not a huge change.
Again, the announcement you posted is referring to the ADDITION of new rewards TB+ players can get by fully exploring Cav difficulty.

It says nothing about it being a temporary change, would be removed or that the rewards would eventually move to a higher difficulty once that was released.

I know you’re a great player with a killer roster, but I’m going out on a limb here and guessing there are quite a few new and/or casual TB players who aren’t quite ready to explore TB but could explore Cav that are getting screwed by this.
So.. a new or casual TB who can't finish an EQ... Gotta have that 1 r4 instead of developing a wide roster to finish TB difficulty? 🤔
Yup.

Those who lack all the end-game skills can oftentimes make up for it with additional power and larger health pools.

On the other hand, I have one R4, bought and paid for with cash money, and it didn’t help me get through my single pass of TB. I tried using champs suited for the nodes and, other than a few circumstances, that turned out to be a terrible idea.

Honestly, I find your comment especially entertaining and ironic because most players in YouTube and on this board who have a half dozen+ R4’s and dozens of R3’s talk continuously about how the nodes are basically meaningless and that they just all power through the content with their best champs.

Pretty nice problem to have, if you ask me.

Well u gotta buy or earn those R4s... Cav eq was boring, stale and felt like an extended arena fight...
And your comment about youtubers powering through? Rofl yeah I'm pretty sure thats why they do content tutorials to get thru with the least ammount of revives possible.. because they face intercept every fight and power through 🤣
U need a broad roster u should learn that... U said it yourself you bought an R4 and u cant even explore TB difficulty
Get more r3s.. broaden up your roster instead of relying on that 1 god tier champ

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Coppin · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.

Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.

It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.

I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.

That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.

You still never answered my question, by the way.

Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve?
Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality

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ItsDamien · January 2023

ADDIS0N said:

Coppin said:

ADDIS0N said:

Demonzfyre said:
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.

Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.

It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.

I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.

That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.

You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve?
Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.

My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.

I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.

Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).

I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.

Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.

It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.

My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.

With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.

You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.

The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.

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bad update

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