So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.
So is the Trello board now the official way to inform every players of bugs? This didn't go so well last time.
Perhaps the Game Team should try an in-game mail regarding Rintrah's bugs before someone chooses him in their next mystic abyss nexus crystal...
If was the official way when the introduced it last year in October.
To inform every single player in the game? I think not, and you are being disingenuous for suggesting that.
That's why the forums exist. To inform everyone. The Trello board is accessable through the forums.
Regardless of the forums being accessible, fact is trello is only viewed by a very tiny minority of players. And it's upto Kabam to make it more popular. And in game message wouldn't hurt
Sure. We've all seen how effective in-game messages are. Hundreds of threads that have been created that would have been prevented if they had just read the in-game messages.
Whether or not it works, the effort should be there
Imagine pushing back against sending out an in game message to alert the playerbase of … anything. Common sense and reason must not apply to those people.
I hope kabam does right by the players on this one. Rintrah has been out far too long for this. Either offer rtd and fix them or simply change the wording on his description to be accurate.
It’s gonna really suck if they nerf him down cuz I FINALLY got my hands on the cow about a month ago and instantly awakened and r5.
The issue with both the "pro player" bugs is there is no reasonable way for the players to ever know that it was bugged. So the usual, "you should have read the description" is meaningless
There isn't a way i can think of where the average or even majority of cow users would see a difference in the Proc chance for Neutralize b/w 100% and 120%
As for the duration, it's virtually impossible for any one to actually perceive the difference in normal game play
So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.
The part that reads “we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet” is concerning. The kit is great, he’s fun to play and he’s been a staple of BGs on attack and defense the last few seasons.
Significant change—even *pro player* significant change—isn’t good for the game. There are still folks sore over small changes from years back (cf. the Drax double hit vs. Mordo astral evade).
I would hope whatever gets done is done with a lot of consultation and communication and testing. That would hopefully involve more than just a few CCP checking it out.
Dr. Zola
I think “we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet” is a very good thing. Normally the process would be to fix all the bugs ASAP. But seeing how fixing se of these(neutralize duration and chance)) would make rintrah weaker, they've not decided to go forward with it and is considering what to do.
That is obviously the hope.
Two other points:
1) Trello is hardly the ultimate bug-board destination. When asked “what is Trello?” I wouldn’t be surprised if a supermajority of the player-base thought it was an energy drink or a Lego knockoff.
2) The team’s failure to use in-game messaging seems to me to be directly correlated to the sheer number of bugs, malfunctioning content and incorrect descriptions in game. As a player, it’s quite possible I would just delete messages as opposed to wading through them all.
So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.
The part that reads “we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet” is concerning. The kit is great, he’s fun to play and he’s been a staple of BGs on attack and defense the last few seasons.
Significant change—even *pro player* significant change—isn’t good for the game. There are still folks sore over small changes from years back (cf. the Drax double hit vs. Mordo astral evade).
I would hope whatever gets done is done with a lot of consultation and communication and testing. That would hopefully involve more than just a few CCP checking it out.
Dr. Zola
I think “we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet” is a very good thing. Normally the process would be to fix all the bugs ASAP. But seeing how fixing se of these(neutralize duration and chance)) would make rintrah weaker, they've not decided to go forward with it and is considering what to do.
That is obviously the hope.
Two other points:
1) Trello is hardly the ultimate bug-board destination. When asked “what is Trello?” I wouldn’t be surprised if a supermajority of the player-base thought it was an energy drink or a Lego knockoff.
2) The team’s failure to use in-game messaging seems to me to be directly correlated to the sheer number of bugs, malfunctioning content and incorrect descriptions in game. As a player, it’s quite possible I would just delete messages as opposed to wading through them all.
Dr. Zola
I agree Kabam needs to communicate more in-game. I’ll maybe watch some YouTube videos or get on the forums to see if something has been communicated but I’m not going on social media to get comms about stuff that they can EASILY put in-game. I hate social media with every ounce of my existence so expecting me to either get on Twitter or check Trello is too much to ask. In my personal opinion.
So, we have not decided what to do with Rintrah yet. These are up there so that everybody is aware, but there hasn't been a course of action plotted. Rintrah is BUGGY from what you can see. We'll keep you all updated, but wanted to make sure we let you know about the bugs in advance.
Please don’t nerf Rintrah, I love the champ as is and have invested so much into him. How is this only coming up now so long after champion release and after so many players have invested into getting the champion and ranking him up
Out of all that was posted on Trello (thanks OP for sharing that here) I mostly want the root to get fixed. My Angry Cow is still hitting 300k SP2s just fine. But the root not triggering or lasting like it should has caused more problems than I like.
I never noticed any issue with Mystical Charges and Power Gain though. Is it based on what fights are going on? BGs he seemed to work fine (during the times he wasn't insta banned)
All in all if everything is eventually "fixed" it makes the character slightly worse. Not a huge difference, but it is still stupid that over a year has gone by since this character was released and there is a possibility of changes.
Horrible precedent has been set that will have people seriously considering going hard after new champs and ranking them up.
So how does a champion who’s over a year old, and very popular among players, have 7 bugs that weren’t unnoticed?
A lot of them are very specific differences between the intention and how Rintrah actually works, so I imagine only devs or extremely focused players would notice them
This is just my opinion, but if you find bugs in a champ that's more than a year old and isn't game breaking, you should just change the champ's ability description to match the existing behavior and move on. They have done it in the past. If Kabam just adds one line in their next patch notes saying "fixed Rintrah's description to match current behavior" it would literally go unnoticed and nobody would bat an eye. There's nothing about these bug fixes that warrants causing such commotion and anxiety in this community. The game needs a lot of work as is without Kabam wasting their time messing with a perfectly functional champion. Rintrah is a great champ but he is by no means game-breakingly exceptional and these bug fixes aren't gonna change that so why not just leave him alone and change his ability description instead of sending the whole community down this rabbit hole unnecessarily?
So how does a champion who’s over a year old, and very popular among players, have 7 bugs that weren’t unnoticed?
A lot of them are very specific differences between the intention and how Rintrah actually works, so I imagine only devs or extremely focused players would notice them
True the devs should notice them since it is there job to do so, yet apparently he’s been bugged for over year
To be fair, it's now been talked about on the Trello Board and the Forums officially. If it ends up being a nerf, ruh roh. But it's definitely not just another silent nerf.
To be fair, it's now been talked about on the Trello Board and the Forums officially. If it ends up being a nerf, ruh roh. But it's definitely not just another silent nerf.
Before the Zemo Incident I definitely didn't know what a "Trello Board" was I'm thinking it's a presentation or something Lol kabam is hilarious then to say Rintrah superior class disadvantage Neutralize isn't stated as a listed % in game is straight B's I've had Rintrah as a 6* ever since he had got put in The featured 6* crystal I took him to rank 3 instantly just like I did when I pulled 6* Zemo from the featured what I'm tryna say is I love rintrah so much I use him almost every quest why? Bc he's a tank can cheese almost any node that give defenders buffs also has great damage output great utility I will say this though there has never been once where I ran into one of these so called "Bugs" what's really bugged is Rintrah's sp3 Regen it's stated Rintrah regenerates a certain percentage of his missing health base on how many mystical charges he have up to 20% well I got to 20 mystical charges dropped a sp3 didn't heal up none but while I'm below 15 the Regen always seems to work I already wasn't happy about the Zemo "Rework" and Root Nerf not the situation itself but how Kabam Handled the entirety of the situation Cause like I said at the beginning of my statement I didn't even know what a "Trello Board" was 😂 since Kabam is so Desperately. Trying to fix bugs how about fixing the input issues that's been going on over 2 years now like party not work me swiping forward to intercept and my champion dashes back and I wasnt playing against a champion who could even apply Reverse Controls nor was A Reverse Controls Node Active on the specific quest path I had taken Also Bwdo sp2 whiffs 50% of the time even after I land the "basic five hit combo" while immediately pressing the sp2 button after the combo connects the defender just blocks my whole sp2 it's hilarious and this has been going on for quite some time now please fix this has gotten me Knocked out/K'od plenty of times in high level content and In plenty of Battlegrounds matches oh yeah back to the input issues part Why is parry so unreliable? Even against champions who make physical contact in their basic attacks on too of that when I hold the left side of my phone screen to block my champion just stands there as if I haven't done so this also has gotten me K'od plenty times at this point Kabam you can give me literally 1 gold for compensation I wouldn't care because I just want the game to work as intended i understand some people can't take loses and admit to their own imperfections and mistakes but I've never been that type of person because I know I'm not the best or close to being the best at Marvel contest of champions in the world but Im dang on sure I'm not the worst player in the entire planet neither when I was still cavalier I matched against a few paragon Accounts and actually won somehow so obviously Im doing something right but I will admit half the time I get K'od in a fight while playing is my fault the other half and I mean specifically other 50% of the time it's me getting my butt kicked due to something that was totally out of my control it's ridiculous I had hope for this game and it's future even throughout the Bugs and season 8 battleground disconnection issues but not anymore even after I said I wasn't going to spend another penny on mcoc I still went back on my word but this time I mean only time I(MIGHT) make a purchase is when the gifting event takes place so I could help my alliance members out some other than I'm not spending another Dime not on black Friday not on cyber monday and not even on the double track event also won't be buying anything else from the new summoners market nor will I be purchasing anything on the fourth of July to come next year and the year after that fix the game pls I don't care about any compensation you could offer even a million 7* shards wouldn't be enough to help me endure through all shenanigans I've had to put up with these past couple years and this has been across multiple devices I'm currently on Android the iphone 11 pro I had broke this past June but I've been playing mcoc on my girlfriends iphone 13 which is currently running the latest i.o.s software and also this Android still having the same issues on both devices
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It’s gonna really suck if they nerf him down cuz I FINALLY got my hands on the cow about a month ago and instantly awakened and r5.
There isn't a way i can think of where the average or even majority of cow users would see a difference in the Proc chance for Neutralize b/w 100% and 120%
As for the duration, it's virtually impossible for any one to actually perceive the difference in normal game play
Two other points:
1) Trello is hardly the ultimate bug-board destination. When asked “what is Trello?” I wouldn’t be surprised if a supermajority of the player-base thought it was an energy drink or a Lego knockoff.
2) The team’s failure to use in-game messaging seems to me to be directly correlated to the sheer number of bugs, malfunctioning content and incorrect descriptions in game. As a player, it’s quite possible I would just delete messages as opposed to wading through them all.
Dr. Zola
Deflategate - Tom Brady
Moo-gate - Kabam
I never noticed any issue with Mystical Charges and Power Gain though. Is it based on what fights are going on? BGs he seemed to work fine (during the times he wasn't insta banned)
Horrible precedent has been set that will have people seriously considering going hard after new champs and ranking them up.
You hear that?
You need these more than I do.