Kabam? Explain the node fully?

PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★
As THE Paragon, I just came across this, Is there any reason why the description on this node doesn't say that, "Attackers special attacks will also cost 50% less?"

Like I legit died because of Hulkling throwing specials after specials in a chain, like what's happening? Is typist getting lazy or something? Or is this a try to catch players off-guard after they are balls deep into the fight?


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  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★
    edited August 2023
    Then why not explain it? I'm supposed to hypothetically do the reasoning of "hmmm, yes yes, node does not mention anything about -50% special cost but that's what power efficiency does, so there can be a possibility of special cost reduction even tho node does not say it, yes yes" before every fight?

    What?

    Hulkling is so power efficient that he does not lose his buff OR Hulkling is so power efficient that he does not lose his buff (and also -50% special cost hehe)
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★

    As THE Paragon shouldn't you already know?

    Sadly Kabam caught me this time.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★

    This one is indeed Kabams fault. With literal thousands of nodes in the game, and more getting added every month, they can't expect to slap a node name in the description and expect the entire playerbase to have all of them memorized

    Finally someone who will not blame for players for not knowing every single node. It's like telling someone 456+262782 = 263,238 once and acting complete suprised like "WHATTT??? I just told you about it last month."
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,804 Guardian

    This one is indeed Kabams fault. With literal thousands of nodes in the game, and more getting added every month, they can't expect to slap a node name in the description and expect the entire playerbase to have all of them memorized

    If the person reading knows what the word efficiency means, then they should understand that means the opponent will be using their power more efficiently and should expect to see special spam from hulkling
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    This one is indeed Kabams fault. With literal thousands of nodes in the game, and more getting added every month, they can't expect to slap a node name in the description and expect the entire playerbase to have all of them memorized

    If the person reading knows what the word efficiency means, then they should understand that means the opponent will be using their power more efficiently and should expect to see special spam from hulkling
    So players should expect the unexpected in wars? Players should expect that even tho Kabam haven't mentioned about said feature of fight, that feature will happen anyways?

  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★
    edited August 2023
    And for those of you saying, "Lol bro, you don't know what Power efficient nodes do secretly? Even if there's no description."

    Tell me what does "DYNAMUNITY SMORGASBORD" nodes do, DON'T GOOGLE IT.
  • JarvisreiJarvisrei Member Posts: 423 ★★
    PT_99 said:

    And for those of you saying, "Lol bro, you don't know what Power efficient nodes do secretly? Even if there's no description."

    Tell me what does "DYNAMUNITY SMORGASBORD" nodes do, DON'T GOOGLE IT.

    The most annoying node which requires you to give them 10 debuffs in certain period of time to give them 10% degen and if you fail it it would regen them for 25% and it also makes them immune to debuffs. I know this very well as I was struggling to defeat the venompool boss in back issues. This one is an extremely rare node and cannot be found easily unlike power efficiency which is as far as I'm aware, one of the most overused nodes.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    This one is indeed Kabams fault. With literal thousands of nodes in the game, and more getting added every month, they can't expect to slap a node name in the description and expect the entire playerbase to have all of them memorized

    If the person reading knows what the word efficiency means, then they should understand that means the opponent will be using their power more efficiently and should expect to see special spam from hulkling
    So players should expect the unexpected in wars? Players should expect that even tho Kabam haven't mentioned about said feature of fight, that feature will happen anyways?

    War nodes don't change every war......
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,614 ★★★★★
    This is definitely a side effect of the design decision to slam 2 nodes together. They slammed inevitable power and power efficiency together but only explained inevitable power. Sure the argument that we are at this late of a stage in the game so we should know what it does is valid but it doesn't negate the fact that they only bothered to explain 1 of the nodes here.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★
    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★

    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
    Do you think Power Efficiency is as common, or even close, to Bleed? Is that truly something you believe?
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,576 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
    "Dashing back inflicts attacker with bleed."

    How in god's name is that node description came into conversation of half explained node? Like, how? Kabam slapped 2 nodes together (i just realised) explained only 1 of them, how am I supposed to know what that other will do?

    Like why are you guys defending Kabam on their half done job? They won't reward you with 7* selector to awaken your ebony maw.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
    Op may not have asked but Kabam did. Which is why newer nodes specify how much damage over how many seconds. Caltrops has no indication of how much damage it does.

    And the comparison is not correct. Power efficiency is in no way as common or part of the game as bleed is
  • Crine60Crine60 Member Posts: 1,435 ★★★★
    With as many nodes and effects that Kabam has put in the game at this point, as well as their sometimes poor wording, I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that every term and effect have that tool tip pop-up definition that they sometimes (and inconsistently) put on words. There are so many champs and so many nodes and such long and involved champion kit descriptions that I personally can't even learn or remember what every champion can do anymore, let alone what every node and every effect within a node does.

    There is a ridiculous amount of very specific information that can be needed to know/understand to handle fights appropriately and Kabam has always done a poor job of providing it to us themselves. They just rely on players to create outside resources that we are then expected to use instead of them just providing it to us in-game.

    With all the things they are doing to speed up progression and help new players catch up they should absolutely be defining and providing those pop-ups for all terms like this.

    This thread is a combination of a complaint thread and players fighting amongst ourselves and was also started on a weekend though so I imagine it will either be ignored and vanish into the back pages or just be closed with no comment.
  • Crine60Crine60 Member Posts: 1,435 ★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
    Op may not have asked but Kabam did. Which is why newer nodes specify how much damage over how many seconds. Caltrops has no indication of how much damage it does.

    And the comparison is not correct. Power efficiency is in no way as common or part of the game as bleed is
    Additionally, they have either changed how Caltrops works (I don't recall it ever being anything other than dash back) to now be both backwards AND forwards dashing or this is another example of their inconsistent use of terms.


  • JustWantTheRewardsJustWantTheRewards Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Crine60 said:

    PT_99 said:

    All I asked was "Hey Kabam, why node description is not fully explained?"

    I got "LOL LOL you should know already, haha, you don't know about the hidden interaction of this node? Omg omg."

    Like wth man, why is a node doing more THAN what's written on it? How is it fair? Players are supposed to double check the war nodes now on auntmai?

    Do you also ask why the Caltrops node doesn't explain what bleed debuffs do?
    Op may not have asked but Kabam did. Which is why newer nodes specify how much damage over how many seconds. Caltrops has no indication of how much damage it does.

    And the comparison is not correct. Power efficiency is in no way as common or part of the game as bleed is
    Additionally, they have either changed how Caltrops works (I don't recall it ever being anything other than dash back) to now be both backwards AND forwards dashing or this is another example of their inconsistent use of terms.

    I believe that's just how Kate Bishop's Caltrops works, not the Caltrops node
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