I have had enough of this AI throwing specials while stunned

I’ve been thinking of making this post for a while, but today it happened twice. Twice.
The AI will just special attack WHILE STUNNED, what the hell is up with this? I’m playing on a perfectly optimized ipad, it’s not anything like lag…
Has this happened to you aswell??

Comments

kikiFurieux

maybe it's a node issue?
like they can remove your stun and throw the special? Without the nodes it's difficult to help more...

Unyonface

maybe it's a node issue?
like they can remove your stun and throw the special? Without the nodes it's difficult to help more...

No it’s not node issue, I’ve had this happen to me too in different game modes. I’ve had it happen watching the stun meter and the AI somehow fires their special or just a regular attack while still stunned.

GroundedWisdom

I've had it. It's a pain.

SecondSkriller

maybe it's a node issue?
like they can remove your stun and throw the special? Without the nodes it's difficult to help more...

Not the case, they throw specials or even attacks before the stun ends.

WinterFields

Unfortunately you can't trust the stun icon anymore when it's duration is almost out

Bosley

Nothing will change. If it costs us units or items then it’s working as intended from KABAMs point of view.

WayWorn2525

Unfortunately you can't trust the stun icon anymore when it's duration is almost out

AMEN!!!! 🙏

AverageDesi

I guess it's a visual issue towards the end of a stun timer? Could you show a recording

laserjohn26

Need proof or seriously get good.

MONGOBILLY

It seems to be right near the end of the stun. But it does seem like they get the special off before that timer’s ended.

Unyonface

Need proof or seriously get good.

Has nothing to do with getting good, your comment is irrelevant here…

318Chubz

I understand what you mean bro, no proof needed!

When I’ve played, it’s like right before the stun expire — the AI launch their special attack. Which catch you off guard because the damn stun wasn’t all the way expired.

STUPID

SlayerOfGods

I believe you, but is there any footage of this happening anywhere? It would be very helpful.

Sean_Who

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?

Sachhyam257

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?

I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.

Sean_Who

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.

That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.

SecondSkriller

I believe you, but is there any footage of this happening anywhere? It would be very helpful.

It’s hard to capture unless you have the camera on non-stop, but I’ll try. Will try to capture footage playing Shocker since it happens a lot with him, lots of stuns…

Sachhyam257

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.
That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.

Some ppl are literally talking about the stun timer being unreliable near the end of its countdown. But do go on...

And I DIDN'T time them poorly bruh, it was medium immediately into a heavy. The AI reacted the EXACT moment the stun wore off. I'm not talking about being in the middle of combo, moreso on the speed of the AI. If it threw a special then and there, I would get cooked regardless (if I was mid combo or not). It recovers too quick.

SecondSkriller

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.
That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.

You know what happened to me once? An Absman threw an sp1 right as I was punishing his sp1 with my heavy. The reaction time is not ok.

GroundedWisdom

I've seen BWDO fire a Special during a Relic stun. It's definitely a thing. Most likely a bug.

SecondSkriller

I've seen BWDO fire a Special during a Relic stun. It's definitely a thing. Most likely a bug.

I’m glad you’re on our side this time, happy to have you 👍

Sean_Who

Not sure what you mean by recovery frame, you're either stunned or not stunned. AI can react quick sure, but not like you can't do this exact interaction as a player either.

Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.
That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.
Some ppl are literally talking about the stun timer being unreliable near the end of its countdown. But do go on...

And I DIDN'T time them poorly bruh, it was medium immediately into a heavy. The AI reacted the EXACT moment the stun wore off. I'm not talking about being in the middle of combo, moreso on the speed of the AI. If it threw a special then and there, I would get cooked regardless (if I was mid combo or not). It recovers too quick.

Your stun timer is not unreliable in that video? It expires, and defender is able to move?

It wouldn't have thrown a special then and there, if you were in a combo. That's the point.

You tried to chain a heavy after your medium, when your stun wasn't long enough/your heavy wasn't quick enough to connect. Simple as that.

Sean_Who

I look forward to seeing video of a special being thrown while stunned though, I'll check out of this convo until then – but won't hold my breath.

Not a video of someone trying to M-heavy a damn limber node 😂

Sachhyam257

Not sure what you mean by recovery frame, you're either stunned or not stunned. AI can react quick sure, but not like you can't do this exact interaction as a player either.
Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.
That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.
Some ppl are literally talking about the stun timer being unreliable near the end of its countdown. But do go on...

And I DIDN'T time them poorly bruh, it was medium immediately into a heavy. The AI reacted the EXACT moment the stun wore off. I'm not talking about being in the middle of combo, moreso on the speed of the AI. If it threw a special then and there, I would get cooked regardless (if I was mid combo or not). It recovers too quick.
Your stun timer is not unreliable in that video? It expires, and defender is able to move?

It wouldn't have thrown a special then and there, if you were in a combo. That's the point.

You tried to chain a heavy after your medium, when your stun wasn't long enough/your heavy wasn't quick enough to connect. Simple as that.

I never once said the stun timer was unreliable. Just that OTHERS were saying that. I said, 'AI moves stupidly fast AFTER the stun expires, I suspect ___ might be happening to those ppl' (check my first comment). When you play the clip in real time, it seems like the AI dexes out before the stun expires because it all happens so fast. We're humans not computers.

I've slowed the clip down so its easier to see that the AI dexes AFTER the stun expires (which was never my point of argument). My point is the fact that it reacts too damn fast. I chained a heavy WHILE he was stunned. You can see that in the GIF. AI dexed out of it the instant it recovered from the stun. The animation is slower than the AI reaction time.

Tldr; my point is that AI reacts to damn fast. I've said this time and time again. The clip I showed is just an example of how fast it reacts. You are arguing over semantics in the clip. Simple as that.

AverageDesi

Not sure what you mean by recovery frame, you're either stunned or not stunned. AI can react quick sure, but not like you can't do this exact interaction as a player either.
Happens so frequently, but no one for a video?
I've got a clip of the AI reacting stupidly fast after the stun expires, which is what I suspect has happened to some folks here. It moves instantly after the stun expires, like there is no recovery frame.

If the AI here threw a special instead of dashing back, I would not be able to react to it at all.
That's not what's being described here though, people are explicitly saying specials are being thrown while stunned.

You tried to time two different combos (medium, and a heavy) poorly, and gave them time to react AFTER the stun wore off, INBETWEEN your combos.
Some ppl are literally talking about the stun timer being unreliable near the end of its countdown. But do go on...

And I DIDN'T time them poorly bruh, it was medium immediately into a heavy. The AI reacted the EXACT moment the stun wore off. I'm not talking about being in the middle of combo, moreso on the speed of the AI. If it threw a special then and there, I would get cooked regardless (if I was mid combo or not). It recovers too quick.
Your stun timer is not unreliable in that video? It expires, and defender is able to move?

It wouldn't have thrown a special then and there, if you were in a combo. That's the point.

You tried to chain a heavy after your medium, when your stun wasn't long enough/your heavy wasn't quick enough to connect. Simple as that.
I never once said the stun timer was unreliable. Just that OTHERS were saying that. I said, 'AI moves stupidly fast AFTER the stun expires, I suspect ___ might be happening to those ppl' (check my first comment). When you play the clip in real time, it seems like the AI dexes out before the stun expires because it all happens so fast. We're humans not computers.

I've slowed the clip down so its easier to see that the AI dexes AFTER the stun expires (which was never my point of argument). My point is the fact that it reacts too damn fast. I chained a heavy WHILE he was stunned. You can see that in the GIF. AI dexed out of it the instant it recovered from the stun. The animation is slower than the AI reaction time.

Tldr; my point is that AI reacts to damn fast. I've said this time and time again. The clip I showed is just an example of how fast it reacts. You are arguing over semantics in the clip. Simple as that.

I've actually had the other thing happen I think. The defender shrugged the stun and threw sp3, but it was not properly visualised so it seemed like as if it was thrown while stunned

Jridenhour_3

Just happened to me in AW. Went for a heavy when there was just below quarter of circle around stun timer and they threw a special and kod me. I had them at 3% an was going to finish fight.

SecondSkriller

Just happened to me in AW. Went for a heavy when there was just below quarter of circle around stun timer and they threw a special and kod me. I had them at 3% an was going to finish fight.

This is something that happens to a lot of people it seems, we can’t all be stupid all the sudden after playing the game for all these years. It’s either the opponent literally throws specials wile stunned or they recover so fast you cannot even perceive that the stun is gone, both are trash.

HungaryHippo

The problem is that you have to record every fight to catch this. Happened in the last side quest. Shang Chi vs QS. Went for MLLLM and he threw a special in the middle of it.

ESF

Just happened to me in AW. Went for a heavy when there was just below quarter of circle around stun timer and they threw a special and kod me. I had them at 3% an was going to finish fight.
This is something that happens to a lot of people it seems, we can’t all be stupid all the sudden after playing the game for all these years. It’s either the opponent literally throws specials wile stunned or they recover so fast you cannot even perceive that the stun is gone, both are trash.

Exactly — come on, now. Some of us have HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of fights. I know my stun timing in my sleep. It happened to me twice today

BeastDad

This has been going on for ages. I figured it was working as intended.