EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE CONCLUDED
The Team has identified a fix for the recent Catalyst Offer issue.
Summoners who purchased this offer have been temporarily locked out of the Contest to Clawback any Catalysts bought/used while active, and ensure previously owned resources remain intact.
They will be unlocked once this process is complete, and no further action will be taken on their Accounts - along with a compensation package to those affected for the inconvenience.
Doing this allows us to bring the Game back up for everyone else.
We've removed the affected offer so we can decide later whether or not to bring it back after it's been fixed.
Additionally, all summoners can expect a general compensation package due to this Emergency Maintenance interrupting their play session.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
The Team has identified a fix for the recent Catalyst Offer issue.
Summoners who purchased this offer have been temporarily locked out of the Contest to Clawback any Catalysts bought/used while active, and ensure previously owned resources remain intact.
They will be unlocked once this process is complete, and no further action will be taken on their Accounts - along with a compensation package to those affected for the inconvenience.
Doing this allows us to bring the Game back up for everyone else.
We've removed the affected offer so we can decide later whether or not to bring it back after it's been fixed.
Additionally, all summoners can expect a general compensation package due to this Emergency Maintenance interrupting their play session.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
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I hope you are correct. And I hope any decision to police the issue is a firm step toward regulation in one form or another. That something operating in essentially the same space as gambling has been able to escape oversight has always seemed odd to me.
Dr. Zola
So, has anyone gotten more that 2400 from a gold crystal? I have gotten more than that maybe 3x in my full seasoned summoner life (Summer of ‘15). Sounds pretty rigged right? Yeah I know that 0.0000000000000000001% chance for 5k gold is still a “chance”, but what if it was only under certain circumstances? I know for a FACT that that is how PHC work to some degree. That isn’t chance if it says there is a chance for every crystal if other factors infuence drop rates.
PHC have sucky luck, but literally every noob has one (minus Howard). It’s because of not logging in for a few months then opening one. I’ve done this with a second account and it worked first try. That’s not RNG, that’s a scam to get people hyped about it. There is no way that an account that opened ONE PHC gets a 4* when my main has opened thousands and gotten 5.
“Hammer, we all know it’s rigged! What’s ur point?”
With Apple making developers reveal the drop rates, almost certainly under a certain time frame, they could be expiring the PHC and gold crystals because our definite knowledge of its rigged nature when it says “a chance for a 4*” when there isn’t could lead to lawsuits from more serious players/rich bums who enjoy this game and spend way to much on it. It’s expiring because they are making honest drop rates. That means I can open PHC with confidence I have a chance to actually pull one.
So what do u guys think? Is it stupid, am I onto something, or am I about to get banned for maybe exposing Kabam?(pls don’t ban me, I love the game but it’s gotta be fair)
Was it ever said by a Kabam dev or official spokesmen (like community manager ect)? Just curious if was only said by technically third parties like forum moderators or customer support?
This will be very fascination to watch unfold for sure. I think 90% of us think this is good news as we all would like to know (even thought we know it is low for what we want, knowing would actually helps us better attune our reaction/response in my opinion).
Kabam has already said that is a glitch they were not aware of that has to do with the gifting event (there is not supposed to be a timer there).
But maybe it isn’t!!! 0.o maybe it’s kabam covering their butts 🤷🏻♂️
1) Either disclose the drop rates of crystals sold for real currency (like the daily class offer) or remove them from the offers. I hope they can't just say "you're buying this other stuff and it comes with a free crystal" to get around that one.
2) Changes to the subscription language will likely force Kabam to remove the requirement of logging in every day to claim the content or lose it. Apple made it pretty clear that you should get what you pay for without doing anything besides pay for it.
3) Either stop selling consumables that are limited by how many we can hold at a time, or remove the limits so they don't expire. Apple was also clear on that one. If you buy it, it should not expire. You paid for it, so it's yours to use when you decide to use it. I think we all share the same feelings about this and would much prefer that Kabam just does away with stash limits all together. The recent increase for T4CC was just a band aid to buy some time to figure it all out.
As for disclosing crystal drop rates for crystals bought with units or earned with shards, I think that's only going to happen if Kabam chooses to. They won't and I don't blame them. I also don't see Apple having any say in the matter. They have no liability at that point anyway. Yes, in a just world, Kabam would share this information for ethical reasons or Apple would force them to by refusing to publish the game, but neither of them have any other reason or requirement to do so. For the record, I hope I'm wrong. I feel like Kabam has made some fantastic positive changes over the last few months and I'm really starting to feel like they care about us, the players. It will be very interesting to see what changes come from this turn of events. Till then...
Keep grinding,
Muzz
Agreed, they will be forced to comply.
Oh I agree completely. But at some point kabam has to decide if it’s worth it to keep the game running or not and I’m afraid this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. I hope it isn’t though
If that’s the case I’m the unluckiest person in the rng game from premiums. I’ve pulled 2 4 stars this calendar year from phc...2!
I open over 20 probably closer to 30 a week minimum.
Yes and no. This is in the section that governs "payments" but that includes in-app purchases made with in-app currencies. Section 3 explicitly mentions this:
Apple appears to be saying that a "purchase" made with in-app currency is still considered a purchase.
A case can be made that crystals formed by shards are not "purchased" with "in-game currency" because that would open the floodgates to all sorts of things not intended to be part of the lootbox discussion. But I believe any crystal you can buy with cash at any time, or with units at any time, almost certainly falls within the intent of the rule. Game companies might try to push the grey area hard here: i would definitely expect them to try. But I think Apple is not likely to be in the mood for playing games here.
The one place I hope Apple doesn't allow game operators to play games is with vague probability statements that only give qualitative assertions. For example, saying a PHC offers "< 1% chance of 4* champion" is something I hope Apple gives game operators no wiggle room on. Less than one percent could be 0.8%, 0.1%, 0.01%. There's a huge difference between one in 125, one in 1000, and one in 10,000.
This implies MCOC is in some borderline situation that one small change could financially ruin the game. I don't think that is likely. The game keeps showing up among the highest revenue mobile games out there. They'd probably still be highly profitable at half their current daily revenue.
Honestly, MCOC is not as bad as many F2P games out there, in that the playerbase has done a pretty good job of figuring out the odds of most lootboxes to a reasonable margin of error. We know which things have decent odds and which things have relatively horrible odds because few (random) things in this game are genuinely rare, so players can test them. Disclosing the odds will dampen some, if not all of the crazy conspiracy ideas, and will give us more accuracy to theorycraft lootboxes (one of the reasons many game companies oppose releasing the odds is to specifically prevent this). But I don't think there are any massive surprises in those crystal odds that releasing them would cause a major drop in spending.
It would be easy for me to pick apart their strategy if they were us based and publicly traded i.e. posteded 10k and 10qs. But it’s not and I’m not really familiar with many Korean companies so I don’t have a pulse on how they operate with more regulation.
I also have no idea what the revenue break down in game is, but I assume you could find out monthly sales through Apple and back into it that way.
• Apps should not directly or indirectly enable gifting of in-app purchase content, features, or consumable items to others.
No, your "conspiracy" opinion is just that..... an opinion based on nothing but your petty biases and ideas.
Where/how do you discern what apple is saying?
Perhaps the second paragraph of the updated guidelines contains what people need to be reminded of, “The guidelines themselves have not changed, but they are better organized and provide more context.” If true this statement maintains the status quo; and what we have here, once again, is people taking things out of context.
This is, of course, assuming that the numbers they release are the actual numbers. There's really nothing stopping them from simply releasing false numbers.