This is why I have trust issues.

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• Wubbie075 Member Posts: 737 ★★★

  December 2023

  So, they release champs/buffs without playtesting and people complain.
  
  Then they playtest champs/buffs and make adjustments prior to release and people complain.
  
  What do you want them to do?

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  What would you rather have, an amazing buff shown to the community before a huge nerf,
  Or
  A perfectly balanced buff that's been play tested being shown to the community just a little bit later. Like have some people play test and then make adjustments before it's shown to the community right?
  
  We ways have problems with amazing champs or buffs getting nerfed right before release, I can't remember which new champ it was last time that everyone was hype for tho

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 10,040 ★★★★★

  December 2023

  I second that
  Don't give us hope, just make balanced champs and don't make champs too op like herc, and keep us in fear of potential nerfs/gatekeeping

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• ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★

  December 2023

  Wubbie075 said:

  So, they release champs/buffs without playtesting and people complain.
  
  Then they playtest champs/buffs and make adjustments prior to release and people complain.
  
  What do you want them to do?

  Here’s a tough one. Play test the champion BEFORE releasing the final product and make revisions BEFORE the player base gets excited.

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• Demonzfyre Member Posts: 22,261 ★★★★★

  December 2023

  MarvelNoob said:

  What would you rather have, an amazing buff shown to the community before a huge nerf,
  Or
  A perfectly balanced buff that's been play tested being shown to the community just a little bit later. Like have some people play test and then make adjustments before it's shown to the community right?
  
  We ways have problems with amazing champs or buffs getting nerfed right before release, I can't remember which new champ it was last time that everyone was hype for tho

  I'm confused... How is it "we always problems with amazing champs or buffs getting nerfed right before release" but you can't even remember a single one..

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• Pikolu Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 7,986 Guardian

  December 2023

  I wish we couldn't show the red guardian buff until later just to avoid this kind of problem, but remember that until the buff is released, it can be changed.

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  Demonzfyre said:

  MarvelNoob said:

  What would you rather have, an amazing buff shown to the community before a huge nerf,
  Or
  A perfectly balanced buff that's been play tested being shown to the community just a little bit later. Like have some people play test and then make adjustments before it's shown to the community right?
  
  We ways have problems with amazing champs or buffs getting nerfed right before release, I can't remember which new champ it was last time that everyone was hype for tho

  I'm confused... How is it "we always problems with amazing champs or buffs getting nerfed right before release" but you can't even remember a single one..

  There are a lot of Champions in this game my friend. I just remember being super hype for an older champ that got nerfed before release, just forgot who it was

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  Pikolu said:

  I wish we couldn't show the red guardian buff until later just to avoid this kind of problem, but remember that until the buff is released, it can be changed.

  That's exactly what I was thinking

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• danielmath Member Posts: 4,105 ★★★★★

  December 2023

  i know nothing of the buff or nerf or anything but vega said he's better after the "nerf" so i'm optimistic

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• Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,482 ★★★★★

  December 2023

  I have no idea what their thought process with Sandman was. Their initial buff for him was great and not broken in the slightest. What made them go for this version now is something that I’ll never understand

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  danielmath said:

  i know nothing of the buff or nerf or anything but vega said he's better after the "nerf" so i'm optimistic

  Pretty much he was amazing for both bgs and long fights but they nerfed his trauma to 50% which still makes him great for long fights, but hurts his bg viability.
  
  I would've much rather had it stay at what it was before, then the next one would have potency reduced so he'd be more balanced all around.

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• Pikolu Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 7,986 Guardian

  December 2023

  MarvelNoob said:

  danielmath said:

  i know nothing of the buff or nerf or anything but vega said he's better after the "nerf" so i'm optimistic

  Pretty much he was amazing for both bgs and long fights but they nerfed his trauma to 50% which still makes him great for long fights, but hurts his bg viability.
  
  I would've much rather had it stay at what it was before, then the next one would have potency reduced so he'd be more balanced all around.

  That's not true at all. They buffed the trauma from 80% to 100% but had the max stack go from 2 to 1 to make him more viable in BGs and less viable in long fights.

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• slacker Member Posts: 779 ★★★★

  December 2023

  So what are the change for red guardian ?

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  Pikolu said:

  MarvelNoob said:

  danielmath said:

  i know nothing of the buff or nerf or anything but vega said he's better after the "nerf" so i'm optimistic

  Pretty much he was amazing for both bgs and long fights but they nerfed his trauma to 50% which still makes him great for long fights, but hurts his bg viability.
  
  I would've much rather had it stay at what it was before, then the next one would have potency reduced so he'd be more balanced all around.

  That's not true at all. They buffed the trauma from 80% to 100% but had the max stack go from 2 to 1 to make him more viable in BGs and less viable in long fights.

  Wait rly? I watched KT1 and thought that's what he said, brb
  

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  Ohhhh I misheard, so better in bgs worse in long fights ok 👍
  
  My bad

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• Pikolu Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 7,986 Guardian

  December 2023

  MarvelNoob said:

  Pikolu said:

  MarvelNoob said:

  danielmath said:

  i know nothing of the buff or nerf or anything but vega said he's better after the "nerf" so i'm optimistic

  Pretty much he was amazing for both bgs and long fights but they nerfed his trauma to 50% which still makes him great for long fights, but hurts his bg viability.
  
  I would've much rather had it stay at what it was before, then the next one would have potency reduced so he'd be more balanced all around.

  That's not true at all. They buffed the trauma from 80% to 100% but had the max stack go from 2 to 1 to make him more viable in BGs and less viable in long fights.

  Wait rly? I watched KT1 and thought that's what he said, brb
  

  KT1 isn't in the CCP and can't even try out the buff. I'd talk with those who actually get experience with the champion and not just hear about the champion. As of right now his change isn't live on the beta, but his damage will be basically the same, just changes the red numbers you'll be seeing.
  
  The pros of the change is you need only 1 sp2 in his rotation so you hit max damage much faster.
  
  The only con is 60% less red numbers damage.
  
  He still is going to hit crazy hard and finish fights quickly
  
  Here is a snippet of just a single heavy with an ascended r5 sig 55 red guardian. (Just pretend the red numbers match the yellow ones)
  
  
  

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• MarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★

  December 2023

  Sorry about that @Pikolu, reading back on my replies I feel like I gave off the wrong tone. Thanks for the help I really do appreciate it👍

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