If you already have a 7 stars R3....then...

peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
in General Discussion

If you breath now, you agree!

Of course 8 stars don't even exist right now...


But we know comparisons between 7 and 6 stars and even 6 to 5 stars.

Watched many videos after pulled my Mangog 7 stars and one of them showed that when you pull, without upgrade to full R1 , it's like a 6 stars R3.

If you upgrade to R1 (as I did) , it will be like a 6 stars between R4 or R5.

The same should be when 8 stars come...if...

Congrats!

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  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,865 ★★★★★
    Alright man.
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    You ramble. Too much. Most of your posts are also just plain useless. You must be in high school.

    Helloooo troll, here is your answer...
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/333135/what-will-be-the-power-level-of-7-r1



    And @Pikolu insight on this comparison I did(with the help of a YT video)

    More respect, please...
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    And I do remember one graph with this comparison on a topic here.

    I will find
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    ahmynuts said:




    I would just like to point out this does not answer what Buttehrs said. He technically also didn't ask a question to be fair

    Some people here are just disrespectfull to others , this one... always...

    If they find a topic useless ,ok, but what's the point to write this?

    They don't like, but others do. Not everyone here is Paragon or above.

    And this in particular its a real exercise to imagine a 8 stars when it be real.
    👍
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,086 ★★★★★
    You need to get a puppy...
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,698 Guardian
    @peixemacaco you brought up really old and inaccurate data. A r1 7* is about a rank 4.7 6* with the exception of sunspot who has higher stats as a r1 7* than the r5 6*. That is how 7*s have always been for us. Keep in mind that a r5 ascended 6* is only marginally higher than a r2 7* in attack and health. The difference is so marginal that I'd say they're about equal honestly.
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    @peixemacaco you brought up really old and inaccurate data. A r1 7* is about a rank 4.7 6* with the exception of sunspot who has higher stats as a r1 7* than the r5 6*. That is how 7*s have always been for us. Keep in mind that a r5 ascended 6* is only marginally higher than a r2 7* in attack and health. The difference is so marginal that I'd say they're about equal honestly.

    Yes, Im currently searching for a graph ,i don't know if it was you or @DNA3000 that posted.

    And found another comment of you saying would be similar to a R4.8 6 stars

    Thanks
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,442 ★★★★★
    Anyway yeah a 7* r1 is somewhat close to a 6* r4, but it's a bit more than that, like a r5 but not maxed is the same as a 7* r1 I guess


  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    Darkraw346 said:

    Anyway yeah a 7* r1 is somewhat close to a 6* r4, but it's a bit more than that, like a r5 but not maxed is the same as a 7* r1 I guess


    Good comparison.
    Maybe some champs are different in PI than others


    Just found this Kabam info



    And this data graph I was searching...

    So if 8 stars appear, it will be same as 7 stars R3
  • NightheartNightheart Member Posts: 2,115 ★★★★
    Okay
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★
    So you're just wrong? You said in your first post you think 8 stars = 7r3.
    Then proceed to say 7r1 = 6r4
    See where the pattern doesn't follow ?
    This post is like talking in the wind
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    So you're just wrong? You said in your first post you think 8 stars = 7r3.
    Then proceed to say 7r1 = 6r4
    See where the pattern doesn't follow ?
    This post is like talking in the wind

    No

    You didn't understand.

    7 stars without upgrade to R1=6 R3
    7 (R1)=6 (R4.5 or 4.8)

    So, 8 stars would be the same logic
    👍
  • Joey_Joe_joe_27Joey_Joe_joe_27 Member Posts: 124 ★★
    peixemacaco said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    So you're just wrong? You said in your first post you think 8 stars = 7r3.
    Then proceed to say 7r1 = 6r4
    See where the pattern doesn't follow ?
    This post is like talking in the wind

    No

    You didn't understand.

    7 stars without upgrade to R1=6 R3
    7 (R1)=6 (R4.5 or 4.8)

    So, 8 stars would be the same logic
    👍
    We don’t know that. 8* are 5+ years in the future so it makes zero sense to be making thin arguments about them right now. For all we know they could be as strong as a 7* r4
  • Joey_Joe_joe_27Joey_Joe_joe_27 Member Posts: 124 ★★
    I know you won’t respond to me because you think I’m an idiot but this whole post just doesn’t make sense and it’s not grounded on facts. It’s pure speculation on something that is years out
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,645 Guardian
    peixemacaco said:

    Pikolu said:

    @peixemacaco you brought up really old and inaccurate data. A r1 7* is about a rank 4.7 6* with the exception of sunspot who has higher stats as a r1 7* than the r5 6*. That is how 7*s have always been for us. Keep in mind that a r5 ascended 6* is only marginally higher than a r2 7* in attack and health. The difference is so marginal that I'd say they're about equal honestly.

    Yes, Im currently searching for a graph ,i don't know if it was you or @DNA3000 that posted.

    And found another comment of you saying would be similar to a R4.8 6 stars

    Thanks
    You’re probably referring to my Ascension post: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/358343/ascension-and-relative-power-levels

    However, that’s not relevant to the topic at hand, because 7* rarity has six ranks not five. Because of that, it’s likely 8* rarity will overlap around 7* R5, not 7* R4. And that means it is unlikely a 7* R3 even ascended (whenever we’re allowed to do that) will reach 8* R1 stats typically.

    Note it’s possible a 7* R3 now might have similar stats to some 8* R1 in the future, because different champs have different stats. The highest 7* R3 in attack rating *could* equal the lowest 8* R1 in theory. However, I wouldn’t describe that as actually having an 8* champ in stats.
  • psp742psp742 Member Posts: 2,585 ★★★★
    edited April 28
    Basically, OP what some are saying that 8* champion are still far far away and 7* champion champions have long way to go before introduction of 8*s..

    'speculation' on the power level of 8* rank1 champion as compared to 7* rank3 or rank4 are just that.. speculation on your part, kabam probably has not drawn up ideas about it yet.. no 7* rank4 or rank5 or rank6 are available, and there are limited means of getting 7* sig stones.. yes we are starting to see some 7* sig stones...but not in such high amounts.. once you see more 7* champions at rank6.. then speculation about 8* is understandable..

    If you're gonna say there are players with sig200 7*.. yes! True there are few whales who own multiple 7* champions with sig200.. and multiple 7* rank3 champions too.. note: there is limited number of top whales in the world. regular guys and gals like you and me will have much harder time to rank3 and sig200 multiple 7* champions.

    Personally, I'd rather not get excited about 8*.. I believe once 8* champion appears, there will be a max exodus of summoners.. imagine BGs where you or I play against 8* champion with our maxed ascend 6* rank5 sig200 or 7* rank2 and they get trashed easily.. or fighting an 8* Onslaught or Bullseye as final boss in AW.
  • Disthene_TDisthene_T Member Posts: 40 ★
    Probably not. The trend is already broken.

    Rank 1 5 Stars are similar to Rank 3 4 Stars
    Gamora Attack Rating 694 vs 726 (+5%)

    A Rank 1 6 Star has stats margoinally higher than a Rank 4 5 star
    Gamora Attack Rating 1805 vs 1916 (+6%)

    However a Rank 1 7 star is closer to a R5 6 Star
    Gamora Attack Rating at Rank 4 6 Star = 3593
    Gamora Attack Rating at Rank 5 6 Star = 4158
    Gamora Attack Rating at Rank 1 7 Star = 4028

    So the 7 star is +12% from a Rank 4 and -3% from a Rank 5.

    What happens with 8 Stars (heaven forbid the become a thing too soon) could well end up being a different thing again. Could end up equivalent to Rank 6 7 star Stats (Then we use tier 3 primordial dust to extent 7 star shelf life).

  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,924 ★★★★
    edited April 28

    Yeah..this one, tho..i'd found one similar on a comment above

    Thanks for both polite answers @DNA3000 @psp742 and I wasnt aware of more levels to 7 stars 😵, because of this i did my comparison 👍

    And in another topic ,ironic or not, one of Kabam Guys answered as 8 stars should be an idea.
  • psp742psp742 Member Posts: 2,585 ★★★★
    edited April 28
    You're very much welcome... toxicity doesn't do much except fester hate and senseless animosity.. I'd rather talk it out like sensible humans that we all are.

    I also just realized that kabam has not release new rank up resources.

    What will tier 7 basic and tier 5 alpha catalyst look like? How much will it cost to even get a 7* to rank4, rank5 and/or rank6. I imagine the gold and iso would be at a staggering amount.. and also due to the enormous hp.. another concern is, will there be higher value health potions.

    I am not really eager to fight a 7* Sasquatch rank6 sig200 in AW or in Battleground.
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