Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
I'm sorry, there is no such thing as "equality" in a game like this... and if that's what you're looking for, you're playing the wrong game.
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
I hear you man. Who needs money to run a game or a business right.
I am a valiant player and playing this game from the very beginning and I am a FTP as well. I mostly play arenas for units and spend those units on very special events like gifting, 4th July and also events like omega crystals.. I already opened 100 crystals till now and spend my 17k units and still didn't get a single 7* champ from these valiant omega crystals!!! Not a single champ, not taking about omega champs but no other champs too...what kind of RNG is this, I spend 5 months to collect all of those 17k units and this is what I got in return.... really so much painful..I got moleman and CG from that gurnetee 7* omega crystals it means what I did just for that...I can share my milestone and champs pics if needed...But really what the hell is this RNG..
Coming to the forums to address/complain about RNG is never a good idea. I know it's one if the more readily available options, but it only opens you up to see more frustration. People showing off their great pulls, potential trolls, etc. I'm not trying to belittle what you're feeling, but we've all been there. When it happens to you, it sucks. That said, RNG is what it is... and always will be. Just get back to the unit grind & hopefully next big event, may RNG be in your favor
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Fun facts:
Here's Netmarble's Q1 2024 earnings:
and here's the previous earnings from Q4 2023:
Extenuating circumstances to be sure, but a drop of 41% revenue quarter to quarter ain't great. By today's KRW to USD conversion that's $24 million less.
Year over year they're down 13% from last year Q1.
That's the real not-so-great metric, shareholders love YoY growth.
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Fun facts:
Here's Netmarble's Q1 2024 earnings:
and here's the previous earnings from Q4 2023:
Extenuating circumstances to be sure, but a drop of 41% revenue quarter to quarter ain't great. By today's KRW to USD conversion that's $24 million less.
Year over year they're down 13% from last year Q1.
That's the real not-so-great metric, shareholders love YoY growth.
So, yes. It's all about money.
I'm sure the global inflation has much to do with that.
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Free to play players get to play the game completely for free, while the spenders pay to play the same game. Is that fair?
Everyone said F2p should save units for July-4th for ASSURED rewards, but if you still want to test your luck and RNG then don't be whining when luck isn't in your favour lol
Extenuating circumstances to be sure, but a drop of 41% revenue quarter to quarter ain't great. By today's KRW to USD conversion that's $24 million less.
Year over year they're down 13% from last year Q1.
The quarter over quarter number is meaningless. Even at the height of the Covid revenue explosion Q1 numbers were always significantly lower than Q4: 2020 Q1 was 23% down QoQ and 2021 Q1 was 29% down QoQ. 2022 Q1, when we were exiting Covid, was actually 42% down QoQ. And things like gifting and CW magnify that QoQ disparity.
The year over year number is more significant, although it is following the trajectory the game has been following since 2017, if you adjust for the Covid bounce. Its the kind of thing that tends to happen to games that have been around for a long time. Whether and at what point they stabilize is always the question.
The long term trend is that MCOC has been generating about 17 million USD less net revenue per year over the seven years for which we have credible data. But Covid makes extrapolations very difficult. It might seem like we have a lot of data:
But when you attempt to factor out the very large seasonality of the revenue numbers, not so much:
Six annual data points, and Covid contaminates two of them dead in the middle of the graph. Without them, a second order trend might be visible, but with them that would just be at best speculative. I would say I would need to see 2024 before I could hazard a guess if the numbers look like a soft landing or a projected downward trend.
I hear you OP, I got zero 7 star champ and my alliance mate are posting some amazing 7 star champ pulls. I'm happy for them but would like to join the fun. Mine you I had some good luck with other events and crystals so i can't really complaint. RNG is rarely on your side but when it is it feels great.
Brother, I just don't have a 7*, I opened dozens of crystals, and I charged the money, but he still didn't give me a 7*, I was helpless and angry
Well even I opened around 70 crystals most of them were the free ones. And I got no 7*. Not even good 6*s. And no matter what it is..if you post something like this especially in this forum and you are expecting sympathy or a deep discussion , then just forget about it. This event and moreover this game is now heavily just favouring whales or spenders. FTP ain't gonna be able to hold up. Most of the whales have already duped and r3 thier corvus and/or omega reds with high sig and they are gonna run all over the defenders in BG and AW and we FTP are gonna be left in the corner lol. And most of them are just gonna come over here and laugh at this post thinking about all their pulls and then just crack the lame ass joke- spend more or stop being FTP ! From now on just learn when to stop especially if you are FTP... understand when the event stops being a beneficial one for your situation.
The Chaos will begin on 4 July deals Whales will get everything And the BG will be nightmare But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Free to play players get to play the game completely for free, while the spenders pay to play the same game. Is that fair?
I don't understand why still kabam do not does make payed entrance to mcoc,so only whales could be play this game:D
Everyone said F2p should save units for July-4th for ASSURED rewards, but if you still want to test your luck and RNG then don't be whining when luck isn't in your favour lol
When you are about to give an example make sure it makes sense between 2 subjects...This is not casino and I am not a spender. I said I am a fTp player so it means I am talking about time i spent in grinding units and in return what these crystals are giving in terms of RNG..first learn how to give an example... peace
What a response. What does f2p have to do with rng? Entitlement ✅ Ingnorance ✅
Thanks for all of these responses, some guys made fun and some guys gave me so much lessons but still in the end just for reminder I didn't post this for all of this but i posted this to show you how you can enjoy the game where 100 crystals couldn't gave you a single 7* champ and why we are playing this game, champs collection?? to enjoy with each and every champs! And that is why we have units otherwise what is the use of units and why we play arenas if we didn't get what we want in game. It is gambling or its some mechanics either way game should be able to give you everything that for you are giving your time.It is not a joke and you won't make joke if you put yourself just for 1 min. on my place, like a Marvel fan, playing game from the beginning, love the game (till it became money spending machine), giving time in game to ignore bad mood, 5 months , 17k units and still no lt a single 7* champ. Whatever it was, it was bad design RNg..the one who spend more should get more ( or atleast something) even if some guys are spending real money,it's fine bcz they have money to spend.
I am a valiant player and playing this game from the very beginning and I am a FTP as well. I mostly play arenas for units and spend those units on very special events like gifting, 4th July and also events like omega crystals.. I already opened 100 crystals till now and spend my 17k units and still didn't get a single 7* champ from these valiant omega crystals!!! Not a single champ, not taking about omega champs but no other champs too...what kind of RNG is this, I spend 5 months to collect all of those 17k units and this is what I got in return.... really so much painful..I got moleman and CG from that gurnetee 7* omega crystals it means what I did just for that...I can share my milestone and champs pics if needed...But really what the hell is this RNG..
I completely understand. I opened 10 and only got 3 7*'s. Terrible RNG.
That's like 1 7-star for every 1,000 gaslighting posts. That's a cost most of the playerbase would find too high, not everyone wants to build a squad off fellow players' miseries.
Thanks for all of these responses, some guys made fun and some guys gave me so much lessons but still in the end just for reminder I didn't post this for all of this but i posted this to show you how you can enjoy the game where 100 crystals couldn't gave you a single 7* champ and why we are playing this game, champs collection?? to enjoy with each and every champs! And that is why we have units otherwise what is the use of units and why we play arenas if we didn't get what we want in game. It is gambling or its some mechanics either way game should be able to give you everything that for you are giving your time.It is not a joke and you won't make joke if you put yourself just for 1 min. on my place, like a Marvel fan, playing game from the beginning, love the game (till it became money spending machine), giving time in game to ignore bad mood, 5 months , 17k units and still no lt a single 7* champ. Whatever it was, it was bad design RNg..the one who spend more should get more ( or atleast something) even if some guys are spending real money,it's fine bcz they have money to spend.
I hope you didn't just spend 17k units, and spent enough to get that 3rd 7-star Omega crystal.
Per DNA3000's thread: "5700 units for the first 7* Omega crystal 13,800 (theoretically as low as 12450) for the second 7* Omega crystal 17,400 units for the third 7* Omega crystal 36,900 units for the 7* Omega selector "
Thanks for all of these responses, some guys made fun and some guys gave me so much lessons but still in the end just for reminder I didn't post this for all of this but i posted this to show you how you can enjoy the game where 100 crystals couldn't gave you a single 7* champ and why we are playing this game, champs collection?? to enjoy with each and every champs! And that is why we have units otherwise what is the use of units and why we play arenas if we didn't get what we want in game. It is gambling or its some mechanics either way game should be able to give you everything that for you are giving your time.It is not a joke and you won't make joke if you put yourself just for 1 min. on my place, like a Marvel fan, playing game from the beginning, love the game (till it became money spending machine), giving time in game to ignore bad mood, 5 months , 17k units and still no lt a single 7* champ. Whatever it was, it was bad design RNg..the one who spend more should get more ( or atleast something) even if some guys are spending real money,it's fine bcz they have money to spend.
You’re not the first person to ask why do things exist in the game if they are not to do what you want them to do. This is a question that ultimately no one here can answer. This is a question that you will have to learn for yourself, assuming you ever do. This is less of a game design lesson, and more of a life lesson.
A bad design is a design that does not achieve its objectives. RNG champion crystals achieve their intended objective. They create an environment where players are encouraged to pursue champions, and cannot simply create a predictable and optimum strategy for doing so. This causes everyone to end up with different results, which has game benefits too complex to discuss here.
Now, not everyone will be encouraged, and not every player will find what the game presents something enjoyable. But nothing would do that, so no one attempts to make everyone happy. They present a specific kind of game, and then try to optimize for the people who want that kind of game. You want a game that is predictable, where spending has deterministic results and those who spend more always end up with a measurable advantage over those who spend less. This is not that kind of game. And if you think that’s a mistake of some kind, by all means find a game that does what you want and play that. If you can.
In one sense I have been in your exact place. I’ve had extraordinary runs of bad luck. On the other hand, I cannot fully put myself in your place, because you have expectations I would never have, and will never fully understand. I understand them in the sense that I am aware humans think that way and I can predict when they might, but I cannot relate to the need for the kind of predictability you seem to think is essential. Maybe that’s because I’ve lived on Earth too long and have no expectation of that kind of predictability anywhere in reality.
Also, I have no idea how one spends 17k on the Omega event and has no 7* champs to show for it as a Valiant. Assuming you bought Valiant crystals, that should be about 57 Valiant crystals. That should have gotten you all the Alpha milestones and 200 points in the Omega milestones, which means on top of the Valiant, Paragon, and Cavalier crystals, you should have gotten at least three 7* Omega crystals which drop guaranteed 7 star champs. The game literally handed you guaranteed 7 stars, and apparently you are ignoring the crystals with 100% odds to complain about the crystals with lower odds being too random.
Unless of course you’re not counting the 3600 units you received as milestone rewards from Omega. But you should still have gotten at least one guaranteed 7* Omega crystal and should have a guaranteed 7* by now.
I'm paragon, and personally I had more 7* % rng with Paragon Omega Crystals than Valiant Omega Crystals.. 3x 7* in paragon omega vs 1x 7* in valiant omega crystal.
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Whales will get everything
And the BG will be nightmare
But Kabam do not care about equality they are care about money
Results may vary, of course.
Coming to the forums to address/complain about RNG is never a good idea. I know it's one if the more readily available options, but it only opens you up to see more frustration. People showing off their great pulls, potential trolls, etc. I'm not trying to belittle what you're feeling, but we've all been there. When it happens to you, it sucks. That said, RNG is what it is... and always will be. Just get back to the unit grind & hopefully next big event, may RNG be in your favor
Here's Netmarble's Q1 2024 earnings:
and here's the previous earnings from Q4 2023:
Extenuating circumstances to be sure, but a drop of 41% revenue quarter to quarter ain't great. By today's KRW to USD conversion that's $24 million less.
Year over year they're down 13% from last year Q1.
That's the real not-so-great metric, shareholders love YoY growth.
So, yes. It's all about money.
The year over year number is more significant, although it is following the trajectory the game has been following since 2017, if you adjust for the Covid bounce. Its the kind of thing that tends to happen to games that have been around for a long time. Whether and at what point they stabilize is always the question.
The long term trend is that MCOC has been generating about 17 million USD less net revenue per year over the seven years for which we have credible data. But Covid makes extrapolations very difficult. It might seem like we have a lot of data:
But when you attempt to factor out the very large seasonality of the revenue numbers, not so much:
Six annual data points, and Covid contaminates two of them dead in the middle of the graph. Without them, a second order trend might be visible, but with them that would just be at best speculative. I would say I would need to see 2024 before I could hazard a guess if the numbers look like a soft landing or a projected downward trend.
What does f2p have to do with rng?
Entitlement ✅
Ingnorance ✅
Peace✌️
5 months , 17k units and still no lt a single 7* champ. Whatever it was, it was bad design RNg..the one who spend more should get more ( or atleast something) even if some guys are spending real money,it's fine bcz they have money to spend.
Per DNA3000's thread:
"5700 units for the first 7* Omega crystal
13,800 (theoretically as low as 12450) for the second 7* Omega crystal
17,400 units for the third 7* Omega crystal
36,900 units for the 7* Omega selector "
A bad design is a design that does not achieve its objectives. RNG champion crystals achieve their intended objective. They create an environment where players are encouraged to pursue champions, and cannot simply create a predictable and optimum strategy for doing so. This causes everyone to end up with different results, which has game benefits too complex to discuss here.
Now, not everyone will be encouraged, and not every player will find what the game presents something enjoyable. But nothing would do that, so no one attempts to make everyone happy. They present a specific kind of game, and then try to optimize for the people who want that kind of game. You want a game that is predictable, where spending has deterministic results and those who spend more always end up with a measurable advantage over those who spend less. This is not that kind of game. And if you think that’s a mistake of some kind, by all means find a game that does what you want and play that. If you can.
In one sense I have been in your exact place. I’ve had extraordinary runs of bad luck. On the other hand, I cannot fully put myself in your place, because you have expectations I would never have, and will never fully understand. I understand them in the sense that I am aware humans think that way and I can predict when they might, but I cannot relate to the need for the kind of predictability you seem to think is essential. Maybe that’s because I’ve lived on Earth too long and have no expectation of that kind of predictability anywhere in reality.
Also, I have no idea how one spends 17k on the Omega event and has no 7* champs to show for it as a Valiant. Assuming you bought Valiant crystals, that should be about 57 Valiant crystals. That should have gotten you all the Alpha milestones and 200 points in the Omega milestones, which means on top of the Valiant, Paragon, and Cavalier crystals, you should have gotten at least three 7* Omega crystals which drop guaranteed 7 star champs. The game literally handed you guaranteed 7 stars, and apparently you are ignoring the crystals with 100% odds to complain about the crystals with lower odds being too random.
Unless of course you’re not counting the 3600 units you received as milestone rewards from Omega. But you should still have gotten at least one guaranteed 7* Omega crystal and should have a guaranteed 7* by now.