**WE ARE NO LONGER Temporarily Reverting Tier 1 War Ban System**
After further discussion, the game team has made the decision not make adjustements to the ban system.
The previously proposed fix would have resolved the issue for Summoners who are on the cusp of T1/T2 play, and negatively impacted Alliances more securely in T1. Instead, we recommend that cusp Alliances switch to Manual Placement to your members to place the allotted 5 Ban Champions limit there.
Apologies for the back and forth, and for any confusion.
After further discussion, the game team has made the decision not make adjustements to the ban system.
The previously proposed fix would have resolved the issue for Summoners who are on the cusp of T1/T2 play, and negatively impacted Alliances more securely in T1. Instead, we recommend that cusp Alliances switch to Manual Placement to your members to place the allotted 5 Ban Champions limit there.
Apologies for the back and forth, and for any confusion.
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Who is the better Dual Threat? Sasquatch or Red Skull
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As for offense I genuinely think he's also better, the only matchup were Red Skull is superior is Domino but I don't see Red Skull taking Bishop or Onslaught like it was nothing. Not to mention Sasquatch is a top Serpent option and we all know how annoying that guy is (arguably worse than Bullseye and Photon now).
It's a very close one though, Red Skull is insane too but I can confidently say my r2 Sasquatch has won me more matches on defense than my ascended Red Skull just because of the time stall.
You're forgetting about the rage stacks here, those are key cause aside from the big health pool and the regen they also reduce your damage A LOT. Sasquatch isn't meant to be a tough defender, he's meant to be the biggest time stall in the entire game which he is.
However, my biggest concern remains in the form of the science nukes.
Titania, Hulk, Spam etc. An equal rank science nuke would just make mince meat out of him, and because of how commonly hyped and good those first 2 champs I listed are, almost everyone is gonna have them in their deck.
At first I thought I could use this to my advantage; i.e select Sasquatch just to bait out their science nukes and then use him on attack (so that they essentially just wasted their draft). However the issue with Sasquatch on attack is that he’s very dependent on Crit RNG on that sp2.
A friend of mine that watches high level BGs streams often told me he rarely sees Sassy crit during them.
13 hit nuke on Red Skull...don't think anyone can take down Sassy that quickly
Spam and Hulk I won't argue cause yeah they probably can nuke him down in under 40, but again Kate and Juggs con do that to Red Skull too so I don't see it as a valid argument personally. Every defender in the game can be nuked with the right strategy and champ at the end of the day.
As for attack, highly advice you watch this:
https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=sUO6Rm08kbFzjOA-
There's a huge misconception with the crits, he can absolutely still nuke with bad crit RNG (if he's r3 that is) and this video has a good amount of examples. You don't need a ton of crits with r3 Sasquatch, you just need to trigger Wrath and the fight is over whether you crit or not.
Comparing the easiest and most difficult matchup vs a champion is best.
With Red Skull, it's timeout. With Sassy, it's health recovery.
Red Skull is a harder a defender overall but when people have multiple counters in their decks winning due to health loss is no longer an option, Sasquatch can stall 90% of the time even with the strongest nukes in the game unless it's a r3 Hulk or a r3 Pig or something, very few can do that fight quickly.
Also would you rather ban the r3 chavez over the r3 sas?
I didnt bother adding Chavez to this poll since I already have Juggs at r3 , and since Sasquatch is way better on defense than she is.
In general, I'd still vote for red skull because sassy is ridiculously easy with all of the science champions that counter him. (Fun fact, awakened spider punk dunks on sassy, especially when he is in wrath and spams his specials). Does sassy take time, yeah. But time matters a lot less than health and red skull provides a lot more opportunities to lose your health than sassy really does.
Red skull on other hand is pretty terrifying. One small mistake and you lost 50% health. As pikolu said, Health is more important than time , and red skull mess with opponents health.
I have a r3 chavez and she is always banned unless opponent has a chavez. She isn't insane or something in offense. She is just great in offense and ok in defense. Idk why people ban her lol. But she is pretty solid as an attacker, and She is pretty versatile, I have used her to defeat even science champs.
Do you know if he does problematic fights faster than Kushala would? Obviously not against Domino, Bishop, Korg etc but like Maestro, Serpent. She would probably take anyone with buffs faster like FAM, Hulkling,
someone with crit resistance like Doom and be safer for champs like Nick or Attma. Aside from Doom, he probably takes mystic defenders like Chavez, Kindred, Maw, Mangog etc better than her.
As for Kushala, unfortunately I don't have one so I don't know if he's quicker than her but he can take Nick Serpent and Doom in about 50-60, Hulkling FAM Maestro can all be done in 40-45 if played right, and yes all mystics Abs Man Kindred Mangog Maw Sasquatch (ironically) can also all be done in 40-50 at r3 with no issues.
Figured because of that, that comparing her to Sassy would be best to compare her on attack to him on defense, and while she is a good attacker , I think Sasquatch is a better defender than Chavez is an attacker.
And based off of @ItsClobberinTime post, you could possibly even make an argument that hes a better attacker than Chavez is a defender, making him the better dual threat over her. (Especially if you already have an r3 Juggs like me)