New Apple rules for drop rates

Per the new Apple rules for transparency of crystal drop rates, when will Kabam release the information?

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    They probably won’t
  • Vinh225Vinh225 Member Posts: 164
    Knowing Kabam, they'll probably MAKE a crystal that contains all the drop rates and they will charge you 1000 units to buy one of them. Then, they'll probably make it so that the most common drop is the knowledge of the drop rates for a 2* crystal. Confusing right? Smh
    'These Drop Rate Crystals guarantee at least the drop rates for a 2* crystal, with an (incredibly) rare (to impossible) chance of receiving drop rates for a crystal that you actually care about.'
    PURCHASE NOW: 1000 units + an arm and a leg.
  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    Supposedly only need drop rates for crystals they sell for $$$. So anything in a daily deal etc. Anything bought with units isnt covered.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,887 ★★★★★
    Primmer79 wrote: »
    Supposedly only need drop rates for crystals they sell for $$$. So anything in a daily deal etc. Anything bought with units isnt covered.

    But the units are mostly paid for, yes you can get the odd few here and there, but they sell units for cash...

    So even unit crystals should have drop rates released.
  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    @DarkestDestroyer its the interpretation thatll give them the wiggle room. You're not buying crystals with money, apple won't demand those odds
  • Chris_L_HChris_L_H Member Posts: 162
    Primmer79 wrote: »
    Supposedly only need drop rates for crystals they sell for $$$. So anything in a daily deal etc. Anything bought with units isnt covered.

    But the units are mostly paid for, yes you can get the odd few here and there, but they sell units for cash...

    So even unit crystals should have drop rates released.

    That's asking them to follow the intent of the rule, rather than follow the specific wording of the rule.
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  • ThatweirdguyThatweirdguy Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    The spirit of Apple's rule is to protect their customers who are spending cash. Said customers spend cash on units. I doubt that the unit loophole will clear Apple regs.
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  • gannicus0830gannicus0830 Member Posts: 648 ★★★★
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    They will find some way to get around being completely honest and transparent with the players.
  • Chris_L_HChris_L_H Member Posts: 162
    Chris_L_H wrote: »
    Primmer79 wrote: »
    Supposedly only need drop rates for crystals they sell for $$$. So anything in a daily deal etc. Anything bought with units isnt covered.

    But the units are mostly paid for, yes you can get the odd few here and there, but they sell units for cash...

    So even unit crystals should have drop rates released.

    That's asking them to follow the intent of the rule, rather than follow the specific wording of the rule.

    Sorry mate, you should follow the actual rule. If the "intent" is different, then the rule needs to be reworded so it is correct

    And that's on Apple. Not on Kabam.
  • Richcowboy888Richcowboy888 Member Posts: 82
    Ya going to report Kabam to Apple on this.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,676 Guardian
    Chris_L_H wrote: »
    Primmer79 wrote: »
    Supposedly only need drop rates for crystals they sell for $$$. So anything in a daily deal etc. Anything bought with units isnt covered.

    But the units are mostly paid for, yes you can get the odd few here and there, but they sell units for cash...

    So even unit crystals should have drop rates released.

    That's asking them to follow the intent of the rule, rather than follow the specific wording of the rule.

    Sorry mate, you should follow the actual rule. If the "intent" is different, then the rule needs to be reworded so it is correct

    You're completely misunderstanding what the App store guideline document is. Apple decides to accept or reject apps based on their own internal decision making process, and they answer to no one. In the past, app developers would get apps rejected for reasons they did not understand or did not know were important, and sometimes one app would get accepted and another rejected that seemed very similar. In response to developers asking for guidance, Apple created the guidelines document to communicate their *intent* to their developers.

    The guidelines are not subject to rules lawyering because they are not rules. They are Apple's attempt to give app developers guidance. They are there to help the developers, not act as a checklist that can be used against Apple. Very specifically, the guidelines documents are not a terms and conditions document and can be revised at any time for any reason. Apple can also make new rules and accept or reject apps without updating the guidelines document.

    No one has *ever* used the guidelines document against Apple to appeal an app rejection. You do not try to pick apart the guideline wording. If you want to play games and try to rules lawyer Apple, Apple will simply reject your app.

    Apple app developers all know this, especially ones that have developed apps since before the guidelines document was published.

    To repeat: the guidelines document is not a set of rules that bind Apple and its developers. It is there for developers that want guidance. It is not there to tell you what the boundaries are or for people trying to find those boundaries. Apple rejects applications all the time that follow the letter of the guideline rules. You are supposed to read the guidelines, see what Apple currently believes is important, and use that to guide your efforts to make apps that will pass the approval process. If you try to push the bounds of the guidelines, you take the risk your app will be rejected. That risk is entirely your own.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,676 Guardian
    * Apples deadline was 17 days ago, nothing has changed at all

    What deadline.
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269
    Hey All,

    We have a thread open on this already. You can find it here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/39949/apple-now-requires-game-developers-to-disclose-odds-on-loot-boxes-merged-threads

    At this time, we still don't have any further information to share with you all, but as we have said before, as soon as we do, we'll let you all know.
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