Buff Silver surfer!

Logan00 · June 19

Yes, I did just pulled him as a 7*...

Super_Cretu90 · June 19

He isn't bad at all, especially if you play him right. Awakening him helps, slightly. I have awakened him 5 days ago. But i do agree that he should be slightly buffed. I don't like the idea of human beings (i.e., Nick Fury, Arcade, Shang Chi, Kingpin, etc) being more powerful than cosmic enteties, demons, mutans, etc.

The_losttier · June 19

Logan00 said:
Yes, I did just pulled him as a 7*...

My R3 says otherwise

Almost everyone in BG ban him and in war is useful in nodes where incinerate and shock exist

Pikolu · June 19

Use Odin prefights if you want more buffs on your surfer

Greed_Exodus · June 19

Fun fact, a r2 unduped surfer out damages a 6* R5 sig 200, also hes not bad, just trying to compete with herc and hulkling in the cosmic class makes people overlook him, I suggest checking out BmcG on YouTube he has some great silver surfer gameplay

SirGamesBond · June 19

Well I have seen plenty r3 surfers nuking stuff in BGs.

If he can pull 40 second fights in non nuke metas, he doesn't need a buff. Just overshadowed by the usual crazy cosmic class.
His rotation is tight. Try to get his initial dupe for a little help with the rotation and damage.

Nightheart · June 20

As a cosmic entity yes he should be much more powerful than he is currently

EdisonLaw · June 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUP2Y-i1WaM&ab_channel=BMcG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IG2QvlOvoE&ab_channel=BMcG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0lNPvUIZUA&ab_channel=-NAGASE-

ItsClobberinTime · June 20

No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.

Demonzfyre · June 20

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.

It's the Hercules effect.

PT_99 · June 20

Pikolu said:
Use Odin prefights if you want more buffs on your surfer

Why not galan prefight?

Colinwhitworth69 · June 20

He’s fine as is. Many many many bother champs need buffs waaaaaaaaay more than SS.

SecondSkriller · June 20

This is a r2 unawakened Surfer. He’s an amazing chanpion in the right hands.

Wicket329 · June 20

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.

It’s been around since his release, and it’s always been incorrect. Surfer bangs. Back before good counters to these champs came out, he was my go-to answer for Bishop and Peni Parker. But he got stuck with that “just a prestige champ” label way back when and was never able to shake it.

Forevernarwhals · June 20

I agree with everyone else. I love him!! I'm not a huge fan of the strikers, but out the Thor one on him and he resets the buff you get like his buffs. Does help a little. Learn the rotation and he is extremely useful!!

captain_rogers · June 20

He got triple immunities too

SagaChampion · June 20

Logan00 said:
Yes, I did just pulled him as a 7*...

Use synergies 🌝

Pikolu · June 20

PT_99 said:

Pikolu said:
Use Odin prefights if you want more buffs on your surfer
Why not galan prefight?

Galan doesn't place a buff on you and OP wanted a buff for their Surfer

ItsClobberinTime · June 20

Demonzfyre said:

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.
It's the Hercules effect.

And that is precisely why I think Hercules is disgusting and mine's still sitting at r3.

ItsClobberinTime · June 20

Wicket329 said:

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.
It’s been around since his release, and it’s always been incorrect. Surfer bangs. Back before good counters to these champs came out, he was my go-to answer for Bishop and Peni Parker. But he got stuck with that “just a prestige champ” label way back when and was never able to shake it.

He does, I added him to my deck already and I'm genuinely impressed. He's been punching defenders one full rank above him in 50-55 secs which is imo very good for a champ people consider "mid".
That saga 1-2 gem is going straight to him, that's for sure.

Logan00 · June 20

So what is his best rotation?

ItsClobberinTime · June 20

Logan00 said:
So what is his best rotation?

Heavy for first fury buff, combo til power cosmic buff is back heavy again for second fury then build up to two bars and once the power cosmic buff is back, heavy charge for combat power rate buff and sp2 immediately to go unblockable (and stay phased if possible) then just five hit combo relic five hit combo sp1 usually that's enough to kill any healthpool that isn't r3. Takes between 40-55 secs to do all this depending on AI cooperation, decent enough score 90% of the time unless you're really high in GC.

FrostGiantLord · June 21

He's great, but is often overshadowed by better Cosmics, like Herc and Hulkling. He's also great for PI and the Odin prefights definitely helped

Nightheart · June 21

ItsClobberinTime said:

Demonzfyre said:

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.
It's the Hercules effect.
And that is precisely why I think Hercules is disgusting and mine's still sitting at r3.

Only place I use Hercules now is mostly incursions and against SOS Onslaught he met the 2021 objective so that's when I used him

Nightheart · June 21

Honestly tho he takes zero damage against shock, incinerate and coldsnap that's neat utility... if they could just tune up his numbers and improve the duration and potency of his buffs he will be so much better. A champ like Hyperion who is a 2016 champ is more powerful than him. And Hyperion that guy just aged like fine wine in the contest like Archangel.

tnair2015 · June 21

captain_rogers said:
He got triple immunities too

I don't think he immune to anything. He will still take damage from passives(shock and incinerate) and corresponding debuffs which goes over 100%. But yeah, in most matchups, his resistance is useful .

Shadowstrike · June 21

He's a ramp up champ, so as clichéd as it sounds, to use him effectively, you'll have to get good with him.

ItsClobberinTime · June 21

Nightheart said:
Honestly tho he takes zero damage against shock, incinerate and coldsnap that's neat utility... if they could just tune up his numbers and improve the duration and potency of his buffs he will be so much better. A champ like Hyperion who is a 2016 champ is more powerful than him. And Hyperion that guy just aged like fine wine in the contest like Archangel.

He does not need a tune up, not even to his numbers. If you use him properly the damage is already there and it doesn't even take that long to ramp up.

ItsClobberinTime · June 21

ItsClobberinTime said:
No idea where this notion that Surfer sucks came from, I just tested my r1 sig 40 on rol WS and in one sp2-sp1 rotation he did over 250k damage. No synergies or pre-fights.

Since I see people disagreeing, this is r1 7* sig 40 no synergies or pre-fights doing 550k healthpool in 1:10, now what? Lol

Anyone who thinks his damage is bad just doesn't know how to use him properly and needs to learn how to use him.

KumaresanRock · June 21

Anyone knows about superior ironman buff?

Super_Cretu90 · June 21

KumaresanRock said:
Anyone knows about superior ironman buff?

Probably going live early in July, with the next update.

Buff Silver surfer!

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