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Edit: I guess there's also a possibility that it synergizes with the spectre and if you run max despair instead of the spectres being 200% potency it goes up to 300% potency because Despair is already reducing it by 100% and on top of that +25% with the vitality passive which if it is 325% then he might be an insane attacker and he could melt defenders really fast. I'm just very skeptical cause on paper, this sounds kinda busted. We'll see
I get why turning off willpower is a good thing here, but the issue is that it shouldn't have to come to that at all
Anyways, assuming Despair synergizes with his kit and the -100% reduction stacks with the spectre debuffs then we're looking at -350% potency (-375% while the vitality passive is up).
Let's apply this to a 250k healthpool with WP 1, the defender would be getting back 2.5k health per second. If the healing suffers -350% potency (which you can easily do by keeping 10 spectre debuffs up and running Despair) you're looking at 6.2k damage per second, if the vitality passive is up that number goes up to 6.5k damage per second.
So, this to me sounds absolutely busted and there must be something I'm missing or doing wrong cause it sounds way too good to be true lol the brainrot 🙃
So Mantis, Chee'ilth and Kate are the only skill champions that can keep this guy's debuffs from applying. Mantis as defender shuts him down completely from the start.
Kingpin should also work just fine, no? his regen rate can't be modified and not purifying debuffs means his attack and combat power rate will be super high like when facing Apoc.
Yes there are some skill champs who work against him, But if his debuffs are going to be immune to purify/cleanse, atleast make it only for non skill champs.
He doesn't "shut down skill champs", skill champs are still far and away the best option for him. Classes have never been about having 1 champ that can do everything do the idea that he reverses class relationships because his debuffs can't be cleansed or purified is just wrong. Skill champions are about managing debuffs on yourself in various ways, that doesn't mean that one of these ways is all that is needed and it never has.
Leaders debuffs can literally be removed by any character with no penalty if you just stand on the green door, but he can be completely shut down with tranquilise and is made a lot easier with endurance, 2 skill exclusive effects. The idea that he's somehow flipping class relationships because he can't be countered by every single skill champ in the game is just as ridiculous as saying galan shut down mystics or nimrod shuts down cosmics. You just need specific class advantage counters to deal with it.
Also if you're complaining about him shutting down willpower then you just don't understand that it's literally for your benefit. If he didn't you would actively have to shut willpower off completely for fear that someone would be running him in their bg deck
Because as with literally any cosmic defender he becomes worthless if any champion with a nullify can shut them down entirely. A character needing a specific playstyle that can be done with any character to defeat isn't bad design
I have no issues with encouraging players to use less popular methods (tranquilize) to counter stuff.
It's not about whether he is difficult to fight or unfair defender, Which he isn't. It's about messing class relationships by introducing abilities that doesn't even need to be in his kit. He won't lose a inch of his value even if his debuffs can be purified cleansed. It's just that they start like this and make every subsequent Science champ counter purify (like the cosmics who counter nullify ) like I already said.
You are the one not paying attention to what I'm saying. It's just a unnecessary ability imo.
My biggest complaint is to see the first champ who directly counters cleanse is a science champ and not a mutant one. Y'all can label me whatever you want but you can't disagree with this statement