Also I know Superior Iron Man’s buff isn’t out for everyone so feel free to comment on him after you test him, alternatively you can use the buff footage to decide
I took my RG to r5 and ascended him and he’s a beast. Sadly these last few GC metas aren’t exactly for him but he’s been putting in a lot of work
Sinister is great but inequity holds him back a little. Would love a 7* for sure
NC is good but falls behind the others. Gladiator needs a decent amount of AI cooperation that I haven’t been getting and there’s little ways to play around it like with Adam
Luke was the most underwhelming buff imo but he’s still good. SIM is TBD we’ll see today. He looks sustainable and hits hard so he might be my vote if everything is as good as it looks
Red skull if he was a 2024 buff but I don’t remember lol.
Red goat absolutely cooked an r3 destroyer getting 52k points in that arms race meta, which won me the match against a whale account which placed me in arcane. That was the only season I actually pushed in gc and arcane was my goal which he helped me get.
It's a tie between Red Guardian and Mr Sinister, genuinely speaking. Both went from underwhelming to top champs in their respective classes. But considering sinister was far worse than RG pre-buff is probably why I am gonna give this one to him. But both buffs were so goated its unfair to even have this poll
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
It is an L take because RG gets shut down in a lot of scenarios, just like Mr Sinister does. The inequity mastery is just one scenario and more often than not, people aren't running it (I have never once come across someone running inequity - even in Mysterium and Celestial). Claiming RG is the better buff simply because mr sinister is affected by a mastery that a lot of people don't even run is just wrong.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
It is an L take because RG gets shut down in a lot of scenarios, just like Mr Sinister does. The inequity mastery is just one scenario and more often than not, people aren't running it (I have never once come across someone running inequity - even in Mysterium and Celestial). Claiming RG is the better buff simply because mr sinister is affected by a mastery that a lot of people don't even run is just wrong.
The reason I consider Inequity worse is because the mastery affects all classes, Red Guardian gets shut down by anything that prevents debuffs or crits but those don't apply to every class the way Inequity does when someone is running it.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
It is an L take because RG gets shut down in a lot of scenarios, just like Mr Sinister does. The inequity mastery is just one scenario and more often than not, people aren't running it (I have never once come across someone running inequity - even in Mysterium and Celestial). Claiming RG is the better buff simply because mr sinister is affected by a mastery that a lot of people don't even run is just wrong.
The reason I consider Inequity worse is because the mastery affects all classes, Red Guardian gets shut down by anything that prevents debuffs or crits but those don't apply to every class the way Inequity does when someone is running it.
..... not everyone runs inequity? its a pretty rare mastery, even for most endgame players. You are using a niche situation to reason why one buff is better than the other which just doesn't fly
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
RG was NOT bad before the buff. He wasn't an optimal champ and he had a lot of misses than hits, but he has ALWAYS had the damage and some of his utility. The buff basically boosted his damage while keeping most of his utility the same. Mr Sinister's buff was a complete change in his kit that made him go from a bottom tier champ to a top tier champ.RG was never a top champ, but he wasn't trash either unlike SInister. Nobody is talking about synergies and stuff lol where did that come from?
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
Red Guardian was kinda good before the buff but he was too stressful, debuffs fell off quickly, required max sig, etc.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
It is an L take because RG gets shut down in a lot of scenarios, just like Mr Sinister does. The inequity mastery is just one scenario and more often than not, people aren't running it (I have never once come across someone running inequity - even in Mysterium and Celestial). Claiming RG is the better buff simply because mr sinister is affected by a mastery that a lot of people don't even run is just wrong.
The reason I consider Inequity worse is because the mastery affects all classes, Red Guardian gets shut down by anything that prevents debuffs or crits but those don't apply to every class the way Inequity does when someone is running it.
..... not everyone runs inequity? its a pretty rare mastery, even for most endgame players. You are using a niche situation to reason why one buff is better than the other which just doesn't fly
I run maxed Inequity, and while I do agree most don't I still think it's too much of a gamble in BGs, if you don't agree then just agree to disagree and move on?
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
RG was NOT bad before the buff. He wasn't an optimal champ and he had a lot of misses than hits, but he has ALWAYS had the damage and some of his utility. The buff basically boosted his damage while keeping most of his utility the same. Mr Sinister's buff was a complete change in his kit that made him go from a bottom tier champ to a top tier champ.RG was never a top champ, but he wasn't trash either unlike SInister. Nobody is talking about synergies and stuff lol where did that come from?
He had the damage but the damage went away in a matter of seconds if you didn't keep up the trauma which was nearly impossible to do due to how short it was. If they decided to throw a special after your sp2 it was just gone.
He said BGs isn't the only game mode, I was just saying I personally rank up champs based on their value in BGs and not other content because of synergies and boosts. Anyways since you're obviously going to keep up with passive aggressive remarks like a child instead of arguing like a civilized person I'm just going to ignore you again lmao have a good one.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
Red Guardian was kinda good before the buff but he was too stressful, debuffs fell off quickly, required max sig, etc.
Yeah I think he was terrible personally, not cause he lacked damage but because it was almost impossible to keep that damage up.
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
It is an L take because RG gets shut down in a lot of scenarios, just like Mr Sinister does. The inequity mastery is just one scenario and more often than not, people aren't running it (I have never once come across someone running inequity - even in Mysterium and Celestial). Claiming RG is the better buff simply because mr sinister is affected by a mastery that a lot of people don't even run is just wrong.
The reason I consider Inequity worse is because the mastery affects all classes, Red Guardian gets shut down by anything that prevents debuffs or crits but those don't apply to every class the way Inequity does when someone is running it.
..... not everyone runs inequity? its a pretty rare mastery, even for most endgame players. You are using a niche situation to reason why one buff is better than the other which just doesn't fly
I run maxed Inequity, and while I do agree most don't I still think it's too much of a gamble in BGs, if you don't agree then just agree to disagree and move on?
Sinister absolutely sucks when there's Inequity so Red Goat.
This is a seriously biased argument. Using one specific scenario (especially something that differs from player to player and usually impacts just one or two modes in the game) to put down a champ like Mr Sinister when RG has his fair share of horrible matchups is wild. Whether you choose RG over Mr Sinister or vice versa is a personal preference as both buffs were equally busted, but "mr sinister suck when equity so rg buff better" is such an L take
It's not, I have both r5 ascended. I wasn't putting down Sinister and if it wasn't for Inequity I would've voted for him, I just consider Red Guardian better cause he doesn't get shut down by something as simple as a mastery.
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
tbf, before the buff red guardian is alright but sinister is absolute dog water with okay defensive prowess. After the buff sinister went straight up to be one of the best dual threat. You can say like after buff , sinister is 80 and RG is 90, but before the buff RG is like 50 while sinister is like 30. Overall sinister got the better buff.
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Red Guardian was dog water too what do you mean? Saying he was a 50 is very wrong, Sinister was a bit worse but they were both terrible and completely and utterly useless, also Sinister wasn't actually that bad with synergies Red Guardian sucked even with them.
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
RG was NOT bad before the buff. He wasn't an optimal champ and he had a lot of misses than hits, but he has ALWAYS had the damage and some of his utility. The buff basically boosted his damage while keeping most of his utility the same. Mr Sinister's buff was a complete change in his kit that made him go from a bottom tier champ to a top tier champ.RG was never a top champ, but he wasn't trash either unlike SInister. Nobody is talking about synergies and stuff lol where did that come from?
He had the damage but the damage went away in a matter of seconds if you didn't keep up the trauma which was nearly impossible to do due to how short it was. If they decided to throw a special after your sp2 it was just gone.
He said BGs isn't the only game mode, I was just saying I personally rank up champs based on their value in BGs and not other content because of synergies and boosts. Anyways since you're obviously going to keep up with passive aggressive remarks like a child instead of arguing like a civilized person I'm just going to ignore you again lmao have a good one.
Passive aggressive? Okay sure, buddy. If that's what you thought about my arguments, then so be it. Have a good day, ig? Not that my "passive aggressive" self cares. You proved my point about RG not being bad before his buff. His damage was consistent if you played aggressive enough. Hence, he received a slight damage buff but mostly a change in his numbers.
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Sinister is great but inequity holds him back a little. Would love a 7* for sure
NC is good but falls behind the others. Gladiator needs a decent amount of AI cooperation that I haven’t been getting and there’s little ways to play around it like with Adam
Luke was the most underwhelming buff imo but he’s still good. SIM is TBD we’ll see today. He looks sustainable and hits hard so he might be my vote if everything is as good as it looks
But the answer is the jerk who almost ruined Krakoa at every turn, Mister Sinister.
Red goat absolutely cooked an r3 destroyer getting 52k points in that arms race meta, which won me the match against a whale account which placed me in arcane. That was the only season I actually pushed in gc and arcane was my goal which he helped me get.
Gotta vote for him out of gratitude
and man I'm happy that I did
i would say superior iron man buff is slightly better than Mister Sinester and Red Guardian
all three are up there but I love Superior Iron Man Buff the most
he's so easy to play and hits like a tank, has some good utility as well
How is it an L take? It's the truth, Sinister is very slow when there's Inequity.
Immediate Ban
Plus, not everything revolve around BGs and war. Many people use sinister in aq too, and in normal questing he is just safe and reliable
Yeah well, you can also use Blue Cyclops with a bunch of synergies and boosts in AW and regular questing and still do well. That's why I go by the champ's value in BGs strictly, it's the only game mode where kit is the only thing that's taken into account, no synergies or extra boosts like in war and regular questing.
He said BGs isn't the only game mode, I was just saying I personally rank up champs based on their value in BGs and not other content because of synergies and boosts. Anyways since you're obviously going to keep up with passive aggressive remarks like a child instead of arguing like a civilized person I'm just going to ignore you again lmao have a good one.
This is a R1 5 star SIM.
Super tanky and sustainable, deals big numbers, armor breaks, parry non contact, ramp up, etc.