It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
No one gets in forum jail for making bug reports or discussing bugged behavior. If they ended up in forum jail it was for unacceptable behavior, like abusive language, disrespectful comments, or breaking the conduct rules of the forums. And no problem and no level of frustration excuses any of those infractions.
It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
No one gets in forum jail for making bug reports or discussing bugged behavior. If they ended up in forum jail it was for unacceptable behavior, like abusive language, disrespectful comments, or breaking the conduct rules of the forums. And no problem and no level of frustration excuses any of those infractions.
Not anymore maybe. It was happening constantly. I m not even mentioning how many posts were deleted daily about things like that.
forums used to be a lot more strict. over the last few years they've let players vent more and they're more open to criticism. i think the more open and friendly approach has created less craziness.
Having two accounts means i could play GC and VT at the same time for comparison. They legit knew that it was intercept meta and purposely:
Gave - Us - Passive - AI.
LOL
This comment is pretty instructive because it demonstrates the cycle we are in right now where frustration has led to confirmation bias and it has really taken over.
I understand conspiracy theories that we are making AI deliberately harder in content like Summer of Suffering. They aren't true, every SoS fight has had the same AI profile, but I understand why players might think they are true. Harder AI in Everest content = harder fights = more consumables used = theoretically more money for us, at least in the short term.
However the community should be able to take as step back and realize none of those incentives exist for us in Battlegrounds. In Battlegrounds, the more players play, the better it is for our business. The idea that we would deliberately create a harder or more frustrating AI simply doesn't hold water. We have not, the exact same AI profile is applied to both the VT and GC this season. Any perceived difference is just confirmation bias.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying there are no problems with the AI. I personally believe we have some substantial issues we need to address, and I'm hoping we can communicate them more effectively in the coming months. But I can tell you definitively that we aren't making harder AI profiles to target specific metas.
Can Kabam prove it that its not for money ??
To you? Probably not. But I suspect proving the Earth is round would also be extremely challenging.
What ???! I wrote very simple words, Just Kabam prove its not for money grab through revives, they claim it not for money, Ok prove it, we are posting about the AI negative impact for like years now, its time it get fixed, I don't want anyone to prove the earth is round for me, thanks, I got it all figured out...
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
No one gets in forum jail for making bug reports or discussing bugged behavior. If they ended up in forum jail it was for unacceptable behavior, like abusive language, disrespectful comments, or breaking the conduct rules of the forums. And no problem and no level of frustration excuses any of those infractions.
I’ve been jailed (by the past team) for sharing screen shots of the AI performing in ways that are impossible for human players. So I have to disagree.
Now that said I have not seen this behavior from the current team at all, so I think this was more due to individuals than Kabam as a company.
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
I'm sorry but this post is just nonsense. Trap put up videos showing exactly what's happening. Just because you can't see it is not your problem. Same with the SOS XL issue, he posted a video of Juggs showing the exact problem and talked about it.
He literally posted a full tournament match and explained each time it was bad AI and when it was on him. Unproductive post.
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
both videos say the same point, the only difference is the analysis that vega shows
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
both videos say the same point, the only difference is the analysis that vega shows
End of the day it’s a sentiment that is now held by the CCP, so the forum trolls don’t get to dismiss it anymore with “git gud” and delete.
I will also say that the current community team has been much less draconian about letting discussion about these things occur in general which may also be why this issue is finally getting some oxygen.
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
both videos say the same point, the only difference is the analysis that vega shows
End of the day it’s a sentiment that is now held by the CCP, so the forum trolls don’t get to dismiss it anymore with “git gud” and delete.
I will also say that the current community team has been much less draconian about letting discussion about these things occur in general which may also be why this issue is finally getting some oxygen.
the main reason why this issue can no longer be ignored is because of how long it has lasted for, and how inconsistent the ai and the game has been in the past few years
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
both videos say the same point, the only difference is the analysis that vega shows
End of the day it’s a sentiment that is now held by the CCP, so the forum trolls don’t get to dismiss it anymore with “git gud” and delete.
I will also say that the current community team has been much less draconian about letting discussion about these things occur in general which may also be why this issue is finally getting some oxygen.
You're definitely are right that if CCP wasn't infuriated with AI, we'd still be getting gaslit by the Defenders TM.
I'll always remember making a bunch of statements that ISO and gold were needed. The usual suspects said it was nonsense. Then the very next stream Jax says "we heard you and are doing something about gold and ISO.
Don't take them too seriously, they are about as clueless as anyone else.
I'm not even sure it can be done but... can we just go back to the previous release? I feel I need to do BGs due to the Realm Event, but I'm not really enjoying it. War season starts soon and this is going to be a an issue, with people leaving the Alliance, just when we have the month of be in an Alliance. This is the worst time for this to happen... I'm not sure what is the solution, but something should be done to alleviate the situation.
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
I see reading comprehension on this one is lacking
This is actually an amazing video. Trappys rants are fun but he's not being constructive or offering anything. Vega actually sat down and talked through and showed alot of stuff
I see reading comprehension on this one is lacking
It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
No one gets in forum jail for making bug reports or discussing bugged behavior. If they ended up in forum jail it was for unacceptable behavior, like abusive language, disrespectful comments, or breaking the conduct rules of the forums. And no problem and no level of frustration excuses any of those infractions.
I’ve been jailed for posting on a thread asking for follow ups on acknowledged and un-acknowledged bugs. Nothing rude, no broken ToS I’ve seen others get jailed and/or for similar follow ups: lowleverplayer , MrMaat i believe was the users name. This is years ago , with the old guard and definitely nothing recent.
It s not an immediate fix, but since the issue is years long, it should have been fixed already. Dressing the discussion with technical stuff looks a lot like trying to add excuses to an already shady situation. A couple of YEARS ago, if someone was mentioning here the AI behaviour, he ended up in forum jail and with his comments deleted-thread closed. Coincidence?
No one gets in forum jail for making bug reports or discussing bugged behavior. If they ended up in forum jail it was for unacceptable behavior, like abusive language, disrespectful comments, or breaking the conduct rules of the forums. And no problem and no level of frustration excuses any of those infractions.
I was shadow banned for a few months for commenting about moleman fix. Had to reach out to Jax once he joined and he fixed it and also said the mods probably took my comments personally and he didn’t see anything wrong with anything I posted. Mods in the past were trigger happy and were throwing warnings and banning people as they saw fit. It’s not the same anymore thankfully.
F4xk y04 with your backdraft parry, walking light intercept, special intercept, being passive. I might just quit this stupid game and i'm not the only one
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I’m glad Kabam is working on a fix, but what does that do for those of us grinding for the deathless piece, etc.?
Now that said I have not seen this behavior from the current team at all, so I think this was more due to individuals than Kabam as a company.
He literally posted a full tournament match and explained each time it was bad AI and when it was on him. Unproductive post.
I will also say that the current community team has been much less draconian about letting discussion about these things occur in general which may also be why this issue is finally getting some oxygen.
I'll always remember making a bunch of statements that ISO and gold were needed. The usual suspects said it was nonsense. Then the very next stream Jax says "we heard you and are doing something about gold and ISO.
Don't take them too seriously, they are about as clueless as anyone else.
I feel I need to do BGs due to the Realm Event, but I'm not really enjoying it. War season starts soon and this is going to be a an issue, with people leaving the Alliance, just when we have the month of be in an Alliance. This is the worst time for this to happen... I'm not sure what is the solution, but something should be done to alleviate the situation.