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Should Negasonic Teenage Warhead have gotten a tune up?

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  • ThePredator1001ThePredator1001 Member Posts: 1,048 ★★★★
    Yes
    EdisonLaw said:

    ThePredator1001 said:

    I think her damage and utility are good, I’m just frustrated with her lack of immunities, she’s not bleed immune, it’s only against skill champs so she can take bullseye. She’s a walking ball of energy but she’s not immune to any energy dot and has 0 energy resistance. It limits some of the fights she can take.

    Why isn't Dormammu immune to incinerate? Why isn't Onslaught immune to reverse controls?
    Dormammu is a very old champ and outdated, Onslaught has psychic shielding like the other telepaths.

    Other Mutants that have energy based powers like Bishop and Havok have good energy resistance and also interact when taking energy damage. She’s still a solid champ but for an energy powerhouse It feels odd that she’s got no resistances or immunities.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,880 ★★★★★
    No
    captain_rogers said:

    People don't realise how OP nega is, I understand why they didn't give her damage tune up.

    She is the first champ in the entire game who doesn't apply a single debuff, including parry stuns, on her own (No need of wags pre fights). She reduces bleed ability accuracy of skill champs by 100%. No skill champ can purify or cleanse her passive effects, Even in future they can't design a skill champ like that. Unlike the case of nimrod, where punishing shocks are enough to shut him down.

    If they wanna punish negasonic they have to give new skill defenders incenerate immunity, which wouldn't make sense at all. No amount of combat training can give you resistance to fire, right?.

    Basically she has a lot of potential, and kabam might be afraid of buffing her which may make her too OP.

    Night Thrasher enters the conversation…
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,856 ★★★★★
    Yes
    I knew it 🤣

    Kabam has to take 5 long deep breaths before bumping up numbers of attackers
    But they say "mehh" and keeps most ridiculous defender to ever released in history without change

    First Ironheart and now this blunder 🤗

    Both of these could be respected attackers if only Kabam didn't scuffed them too much.

    Big yikes 💯
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,075 ★★★★★
    No
    captain_rogers said:

    People don't realise how OP nega is, I understand why they didn't give her damage tune up.

    She is the first champ in the entire game who doesn't apply a single debuff, including parry stuns, on her own (No need of wags pre fights). She reduces bleed ability accuracy of skill champs by 100%. No skill champ can purify or cleanse her passive effects, Even in future they can't design a skill champ like that. Unlike the case of nimrod, where punishing shocks are enough to shut him down.

    If they wanna punish negasonic they have to give new skill defenders incenerate immunity, which wouldn't make sense at all. No amount of combat training can give you resistance to fire, right?.

    Basically she has a lot of potential, and kabam might be afraid of buffing her which may make her too OP.

    But special armor can make you incinerate immune
  • jdschwjdschw Member Posts: 565 ★★★
    Yes
    Honestly she doesnt even seem that good against bullseye to me. Even if she doesnt take bleed damage on those specials, she takes tons of crit damage and has a low health pool. I also think the constant evade/counter-evade gameplay is silly.

    I tried her for bullseye in AW and regretted it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, i dunno.
  • NightheartNightheart Member Posts: 2,125 ★★★★
    Yes
    A tune up even minor would have been nice although I like her
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,075 ★★★★★
    No
    jdschw said:

    Honestly she doesnt even seem that good against bullseye to me. Even if she doesnt take bleed damage on those specials, she takes tons of crit damage and has a low health pool. I also think the constant evade/counter-evade gameplay is silly.

    I tried her for bullseye in AW and regretted it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, i dunno.

    I think you're supposed to push him to sp2 so you can dex it and take no damage. Avoid the sp1s
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,112 ★★★★
    Yes
    She deserved a small damage tune up. No one is asking for a CGR but a champion that can win a BG fight without timing out.

    I've tried her against Bullseye numerous times but she simply sucks due to that low damage. Onslaught, Dust, Weapon X and Sinister are way better Bullseye counters than the champion specifically designed for him and that's just sad.

    While Ironheart needed a minor tune up as well, she's way better. I have her at r2 and use her in BGs regularly with good results. I'll take her to r3 while Teenage Noodle will be forever stuck at r1.

    Too bad, she's such a cool champion
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 228 ★
    Yes
    captain_rogers said:

    People don't realise how OP nega is, I understand why they didn't give her damage tune up.

    She is the first champ in the entire game who doesn't apply a single debuff, including parry stuns, on her own (No need of wags pre fights). She reduces bleed ability accuracy of skill champs by 100%. No skill champ can purify or cleanse her passive effects, Even in future they can't design a skill champ like that. Unlike the case of nimrod, where punishing shocks are enough to shut him down.

    If they wanna punish negasonic they have to give new skill defenders incenerate immunity, which wouldn't make sense at all. No amount of combat training can give you resistance to fire, right?.

    Basically she has a lot of potential, and kabam might be afraid of buffing her which may make her too OP.

    she is nowhere near OP as you think. what good is passive debuffs when they don't do as much as you'd expect, they don't last as long as you think especially with the passive and terrible ai you might face.

    to punish her is very easy, make them stun immune and make the ai very passive. good luck stacking enough incinerate to take the fight down.

    in summary, she has a lot of utility against the skill class annoying defenders but isn't made to take them down quick enough to be competitive. and her ramp is very annoying to sustain
  • The_0wenpusThe_0wenpus Member Posts: 305 ★★★
    No
    EdisonLaw said:

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/379101/balance-update-negasonic-teenage-warhead-and-silver-sable#latest

    So if you didn't know, the balance update just got announced earlier and Silver Sable is getting rebalanced. Yay.
    But Negasonic won't be getting changed. How do you feel? Do you think she needed a tune up? Why or why not?

    Please make a post after this titled "Just polled Silver Sable." It would be hilarious.
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 1,003 ★★★★
    Yes
    A slight damage increase is all she needed, especially considering how squishy she is. Having the utility of passive debuffs is cool, but if many other champs can take the matchups you’d bring her for, do it faster and relatively safer, then there’s no point in using her. She is advertised as a Bullseye counter, but there are many instances where I’ve found other champs to be better and safer. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s forgotten in the near future, if she isn’t already.
  • Ansh_AAnsh_A Member Posts: 676 ★★★
    Yes
    I dont think utility wise she needs anythint because she is quite strong on utility. I wont mind her finding a way around a stun immune Bullseye though because she has been designed to hard counter him and in AW, she doesn't even do that. He is always on stun immune nodes.

    Damage tune up or increase duration on incinerate. It falls off way too fast and you need to keep placing it again because she has negligible other sources of removing health. Without the tune up, she is going to be flavour of the year and when Kabam inevitably buffs the mutant class, she will be lost at the bottom tiers.
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