Welp I just screwed up…sorta…with SOS…

JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
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Just did the right side path only to realize the and/or on the #L and/or XL doesn’t mean you only have to have one of them….now I don’t have enough revives or units to do another run. Twas worded kind of poorly if you ask me. I was led to believe as long as I had an XL or L member on my team I was good. Oh well, looks like I won’t be getting a titan or 7 star shards bc of falling one point short on this one…
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  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    The absolutely horrific AI didn’t help at all either…moleman and toad were awful. Won’t throw specials, intercepting when they shouldn’t, holding specials until debuffs expire, waiting until monster mass is over, etc. Destroyer was ok but bearable…held his power to an SP3 a few times. Wish I could go back and just not have the points and get my revives and units back…
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    “Any combination of L and/or XL champions” leads me to believe a combination with an XL or L champ. But oh well
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    djr17 said:

    If I'm reading that right, you need that objective only, and you've done the whole thing. Assuming that is correct, if you have them ranked, use Hulk, Overseer and Cheeilth on the right side again. Hulk for every fight except MM. I did it with them with minimal revives, and I'm not exactly good at this type of thing.

    You've got time. Build some revives and boosts and you'll get it done.

    I don’t have hulk ranked unfortunately. I just reluctantly hopped back in and got the solo on toad with warlock. I’ve got a team of all heros so that should get me the last point if I can farm some units
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    “Any combination of L and/or XL champions” leads me to believe a combination with an XL or L champ. But oh well
    No it pretty clearly means all champions need to be any combination of those 2 sizes.

    You don’t say? Thanks for the insight…
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,202 ★★★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    “Any combination of L and/or XL champions” leads me to believe a combination with an XL or L champ. But oh well
    Where do u see a an it says combination mainly means just either or team of them unless they say an xl or large then means one but combination means a team
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,949 ★★★★★
    There's still a way around it somehow. I HAD (not really upper case, but it felt like that) to use crossbones due to misplanning and reading against Warlock, but got it done.

    There are ways to do it, it just unfortunately will take time and more practice.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    Just did the right side path only to realize the and/or on the #L and/or XL doesn’t mean you only have to have one of them….now I don’t have enough revives or units to do another run. Twas worded kind of poorly if you ask me. I was led to believe as long as I had an XL or L member on my team I was good. Oh well, looks like I won’t be getting a titan or 7 star shards bc of falling one point short on this one…

    Guys I’m not saying it was their fault lol. It was clearly my mistake. The wording just had me a bit confused lol. I am not blaming anyone but me 🤣🤣
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    You also still have 3 weeks to do it. Farm some revives and units.

    Any other place other than the apothecary to farm?
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Just did the right side path only to realize the and/or on the #L and/or XL doesn’t mean you only have to have one of them….now I don’t have enough revives or units to do another run. Twas worded kind of poorly if you ask me. I was led to believe as long as I had an XL or L member on my team I was good. Oh well, looks like I won’t be getting a titan or 7 star shards bc of falling one point short on this one…

    You’re suggesting the wording is misleading. So let’s try this out for example, Let’s say I form a team with one XL champ, say the Hulk, and one L champ, say Colossus. And I throw Wasp in there (size S). The objective said (in English):

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team consisting of any combination of Champions tagged as #Size L and/or #Size:XL.

    Is a team of Hulk, Colossus, and Wasp a team that consists of a combination of L and XL champs?

    Let’s eliminate one irrelevant point of confusion: the “and/or” part. Let’s say the objective just said:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team consisting of any combination of Champions tagged as #Size XL.

    Also, “a team consisting of” is somewhat extra verbiage [but see below]: I think most would agree that this is identical to:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with any combination of Champions tagged as #Size XL

    Is a team of Hulk and Wasp “a combination of champions tagged XL?”

    I don’t see where the ambiguity lies. If it says you need a team of Ls and XLs, then a team with Ms and Ss does not qualify. If you were supposed to bring Ls and XLs but you could also bring other things, it would have said:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team that includes at least one Champion tagged as #Size L or #Size:XL.

    Or, if you were required to bring both:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team that includes at least one Champion tagged as #Size L and at least one Champion tagged as #Size:XL.

    The only thing I can think of is some people are synonymizing the words “consists” and “contains.” “This team consists of five men” means that team has exactly five members, all male, and no one else. “This team contains five women” means that team has at least five members that are female, but it may contain other members of unspecified gender.

    Imagine a box containing apples, oranges, and bananas. Does this box contain apples and oranges? Yes. Does this box consist of apples and oranges? No: it also contains bananas. This doesn’t seem to be a technicality of grammar, this seems to be consistent with how the words are used in common colloquial speech.
    This actually made me laugh pretty dang hard. Read my most recent response. I think people thought I was saying it was their fault. Was definitely my own. It just had ME confused. I take full responsibility 🤣🤣…however, it was a bit unfortunate for me
  • Sunstar19Sunstar19 Member Posts: 233 ★
    edited October 22
    Happened to me in past gauntlets, realised after finishing the fights and short of 1 point. It’s tough to take but learnt to be more cautious in reading the objectives
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,553 ★★★★★
    edited October 22
    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    You also still have 3 weeks to do it. Farm some revives and units.

    Any other place other than the apothecary to farm?
    3.1 and 3.2 of the classic version of the symbiote variant can be a decent spot from time to time. You might average 2 every 3 runs or so.
    There's no real farming spot anymore.
  • aslaslaslaslaslaslaslaslaslasl Member Posts: 37 ★
    Ig we have some good revives deals going in store at the moment. If you have 500 1000 units, maybe buy that set.
  • NearJrNearJr Member Posts: 159 ★★
    You saying "it was worded poorly" clearly states you're trying to blame.... wait for it..... the actual wording.
    Take the L, go farm, also, start including in your daily diet the following, it will help solve one of your biggest problems:
    -Blueberries
    -Dark Leafy Greens
    -Salmon, Sardines, and Herring
    -Spinach
    -Red Wine, or, better yet, Grape Juice
    -Whole Grains and Brown Rice
    -Hot Cocoa
    -Nuts, Notably Almonds and Walnuts
    -Olive Oil
    -Garlic

    Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/articles/200402/top-ten-smart-foods

  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,633 ★★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    DNA3000 said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Just did the right side path only to realize the and/or on the #L and/or XL doesn’t mean you only have to have one of them….now I don’t have enough revives or units to do another run. Twas worded kind of poorly if you ask me. I was led to believe as long as I had an XL or L member on my team I was good. Oh well, looks like I won’t be getting a titan or 7 star shards bc of falling one point short on this one…

    You’re suggesting the wording is misleading. So let’s try this out for example, Let’s say I form a team with one XL champ, say the Hulk, and one L champ, say Colossus. And I throw Wasp in there (size S). The objective said (in English):

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team consisting of any combination of Champions tagged as #Size L and/or #Size:XL.

    Is a team of Hulk, Colossus, and Wasp a team that consists of a combination of L and XL champs?

    Let’s eliminate one irrelevant point of confusion: the “and/or” part. Let’s say the objective just said:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team consisting of any combination of Champions tagged as #Size XL.

    Also, “a team consisting of” is somewhat extra verbiage [but see below]: I think most would agree that this is identical to:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with any combination of Champions tagged as #Size XL

    Is a team of Hulk and Wasp “a combination of champions tagged XL?”

    I don’t see where the ambiguity lies. If it says you need a team of Ls and XLs, then a team with Ms and Ss does not qualify. If you were supposed to bring Ls and XLs but you could also bring other things, it would have said:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team that includes at least one Champion tagged as #Size L or #Size:XL.

    Or, if you were required to bring both:

    Complete the Summer of Suffering - Gauntlet Quest with a team that includes at least one Champion tagged as #Size L and at least one Champion tagged as #Size:XL.

    The only thing I can think of is some people are synonymizing the words “consists” and “contains.” “This team consists of five men” means that team has exactly five members, all male, and no one else. “This team contains five women” means that team has at least five members that are female, but it may contain other members of unspecified gender.

    Imagine a box containing apples, oranges, and bananas. Does this box contain apples and oranges? Yes. Does this box consist of apples and oranges? No: it also contains bananas. This doesn’t seem to be a technicality of grammar, this seems to be consistent with how the words are used in common colloquial speech.
    This actually made me laugh pretty dang hard. Read my most recent response. I think people thought I was saying it was their fault. Was definitely my own. It just had ME confused. I take full responsibility 🤣🤣…however, it was a bit unfortunate for me
    It's OK. Insufferable windbags make me laugh too.

    Not this one though.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    You also still have 3 weeks to do it. Farm some revives and units.

    Any other place other than the apothecary to farm?
    3.1 and 3.2 of the classic version of the symbiote variant can be a decent spot from time to time. You might average 2 every 3 runs or so.
    There's no real farming spot anymore.

    Just grind some arenas, more reliable than revive farming.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 889 ★★★★
    If you are doing just hero to make up the last point, Viv, spam, Kate works great for right path.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,173 ★★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    You also still have 3 weeks to do it. Farm some revives and units.

    Any other place other than the apothecary to farm?
    3.1 and 3.2 of the classic version of the symbiote variant can be a decent spot from time to time. You might average 2 every 3 runs or so.
    There's no real farming spot anymore.
    variant 7 2.2 sgwen quest have better droprates
  • SG2468SG2468 Member Posts: 52 ★
    same thing happenned to me i thought for getting saga objective we need to have all saga champions . turns out you only need one saga champion
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,912 ★★★★★
    I thought chavez was l for some reason so you won't be the only one doing a third path. Annoying part is I didn't even use her once
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    Ortoun said:

    If you are doing just hero to make up the last point, Viv, spam, Kate works great for right path.

    Kate is my most wanted pull🥲
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    NearJr said:

    You saying "it was worded poorly" clearly states you're trying to blame.... wait for it..... the actual wording.
    Take the L, go farm, also, start including in your daily diet the following, it will help solve one of your biggest problems:
    -Blueberries
    -Dark Leafy Greens
    -Salmon, Sardines, and Herring
    -Spinach
    -Red Wine, or, better yet, Grape Juice
    -Whole Grains and Brown Rice
    -Hot Cocoa
    -Nuts, Notably Almonds and Walnuts
    -Olive Oil
    -Garlic

    Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/articles/200402/top-ten-smart-foods

    Wait for it…touch grass. I eat healthy but thanks for the diet tips
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    aslaslaslaslasl said:

    Ig we have some good revives deals going in store at the moment. If you have 500 1000 units, maybe buy that set.

    I did. I burned through my units I was saving too
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,843 ★★★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    “Any combination of L and/or XL champions” leads me to believe a combination with an XL or L champ. But oh well
    Why not double confirm by asking on forums or YouTube video?
    Instead of that, you wasted all your revives and units and made forum post anyway 🎉
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,553 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    That sucks, but the wording really isn't misleading. It says "any combination of" L/XL. That's pretty straightforward.

    “Any combination of L and/or XL champions” leads me to believe a combination with an XL or L champ. But oh well
    Why not double confirm by asking on forums or YouTube video?
    Instead of that, you wasted all your revives and units and made forum post anyway 🎉
    To be fair, there is a difference between being confused by something and misunderstanding something. This was a misunderstanding and OP went in confident that they knew what they were doing. Had OP been confused and unsure beforehand, then yes, coming to the forums would've made a lot of sense.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 889 ★★★★
    JackTheSnack said:

    Ortoun said:

    If you are doing just hero to make up the last point, Viv, spam, Kate works great for right path.

    Kate is my most wanted pull🥲
    I only used her for idoom, so if you have some other hero that is a good counter, the rest still stands. Viv is the ideal counter to that toad fight, and spam works great for destroyer and moleman.
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