I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
You don't even know the drop rates yet, how could you possibly know how much of the crystal is filler, even by your own definition?
Anyways, contribute to one of the existing threads please.
dude, the vast majority of the community is giving negative feedback and this is your response to me.
You have no understanding of what the "vast majority" is.
There have been a good number of complaints today so I understand the hyperbole, especially in the forums where it's a more focused view. I think the banquet pull thread being mostly positive alongside this one with understandable frustration and complaints demonstrates, as always, there's going to be a range of reactions and feelings towards just about any event or action in game. Think it's important to have this space though for folks to voice their frustrations as long as we can keep it respectful. Keep it focused on us and on the specifics, we can take that back to the team and discuss. Attacking fellow summoners (and this isn't directed at you demonzfyre I was just initially replying to your comment) and/or kabam staff isn't productive and those comments are more likely to be removed. But as long as the criticism is constructive we want to hear it.
Another constructive comment: there’s really not a good reason in my opinion for the T7b, especially at 5% chance in super small amounts.
I’ve pulled it 3X, which was exciting until I realized this is the amount I need to form one.
I need three for a R4–something I really don’t need and didn’t expect to get close to from this event. To include in tiny amounts feels very off, in a similar vein to the huge amount of T6c I commented on above.
Dr. Zola
Yep. I pulled them twice and my thoughts “what am I supposed to do with these?!?!?”
They need to start adding in nexus style options. If your a whale buy thousands of these things wanting T7b you can choose the small cumulative amounts. Everyone else who wants to can select something that will be of use to us.
You don't even know the drop rates yet, how could you possibly know how much of the crystal is filler, even by your own definition?
Anyways, contribute to one of the existing threads please.
dude, the vast majority of the community is giving negative feedback and this is your response to me.
You have no understanding of what the "vast majority" is.
There have been a good number of complaints today so I understand the hyperbole, especially in the forums where it's a more focused view. I think the banquet pull thread being mostly positive alongside this one with understandable frustration and complaints demonstrates, as always, there's going to be a range of reactions and feelings towards just about any event or action in game. Think it's important to have this space though for folks to voice their frustrations as long as we can keep it respectful. Keep it focused on us and on the specifics, we can take that back to the team and discuss. Attacking fellow summoners (and this isn't directed at you demonzfyre I was just initially replying to your comment) and/or kabam staff isn't productive and those comments are more likely to be removed. But as long as the criticism is constructive we want to hear it.
Another constructive comment: there’s really not a good reason in my opinion for the T7b, especially at 5% chance in super small amounts.
I’ve pulled it 3X, which was exciting until I realized this is the amount I need to form one.
I need three for a R4–something I really don’t need and didn’t expect to get close to from this event. To include in tiny amounts feels very off, in a similar vein to the huge amount of T6c I commented on above.
Dr. Zola
They honestly just need to hire Zola at this point. He’s always gave fair perspective and could have saved this disaster event from launching
It's not just zola,but none of us are eligible to be hired lol. Not even demonz . We are all just players. Our view is horribly skewed
You don't even know the drop rates yet, how could you possibly know how much of the crystal is filler, even by your own definition?
Anyways, contribute to one of the existing threads please.
dude, the vast majority of the community is giving negative feedback and this is your response to me.
You have no understanding of what the "vast majority" is.
There have been a good number of complaints today so I understand the hyperbole, especially in the forums where it's a more focused view. I think the banquet pull thread being mostly positive alongside this one with understandable frustration and complaints demonstrates, as always, there's going to be a range of reactions and feelings towards just about any event or action in game. Think it's important to have this space though for folks to voice their frustrations as long as we can keep it respectful. Keep it focused on us and on the specifics, we can take that back to the team and discuss. Attacking fellow summoners (and this isn't directed at you demonzfyre I was just initially replying to your comment) and/or kabam staff isn't productive and those comments are more likely to be removed. But as long as the criticism is constructive we want to hear it.
Another constructive comment: there’s really not a good reason in my opinion for the T7b, especially at 5% chance in super small amounts.
I’ve pulled it 3X, which was exciting until I realized this is the amount I need to form one.
I need three for a R4–something I really don’t need and didn’t expect to get close to from this event. Amassing more would require my alliance to finish Top 10 or for me to finish Top 3% solo.
Including such a new and rare resource as a 5% drop in tiny amounts feels very off, in a similar vein to the huge amount of T6c I commented on above.
Dr. Zola
For us regular Joe Schmo’s? I can see where you’re coming from. But there are people who wire transfer money directly to Kabam in order to have thousands of crystals imported into their accounts to avoid buying them 10 at a time.
These people? They’re willing to spend the big bucks in order to have a r4.
The feel good rewards have always been from lucky RNG and milestones and ranked rewards. It's always been that way. Why are yall surprised it hasn't changed?
Because they said they heard us last year but it was too late to fix it so they’d do better this year. And because Crash’s comment implied better drop rates. And because it’s the big 10 year celebration. Any one of those is enough to change expectations and all 3 together set folks up to expect at least above average crystals instead of what feels like a small step above daily valiant crystals with these drop rates.
I think people are conflating the idea of the 10th Anniversary with this. The Banquet has been improved since last year, in terms of what's been made available. That doesn't mean they're going to remove the base pulls. That's inevitable, and it comes up every year. Also, the Event literally just started today. We have 2 weeks to have a chance at other pulls. I find it too soon to sum up the entire Event. We just got 10 free 7*s. I think part of the problem is expectations. Could they improve it? Sure. They listened to some of the feedback last year. That doesn't mean they can give people everything they want. Only some of it. That's a part of balancing any game.
I'm selective in rankups and have a decent amount of cats so at first glance there isn't a lot of value in it for me.
I routinely have to let t6b and t3a expire because I can't bring myself to rank spuds that have no value just to use a resource that while valuable, has no value if the rankup itself has none.
I'm not really the target market for these events since I won't whale but it does seem a little disappointing for any midgame or better valiant.
Yeah, I'll add my name to the list of respectfully disappointed summoners. I bought about 12k worth of crystals so far, and I really didn't get anything that will impact my (valiant) account. Just a lot of T6cc, T5b, and T5cc, like other folks said.
I'll also second @DrZola 's point that the tiny trickle of T7a feels a bit silly. That's just going to sit dormant in my account for several months, probably.
I did get enough shards for about 3 7* crystals (mostly from the milestones, I think), and unfortunately just pulled repeated dupes from nearly all of them. My best outcome was to awaken my 7* Juggs. The two keys that I got (both from milestones) happened to pull 2 champs that I don't really want, and it's particularly frustrating because I absolutely love Medusa and wanted to pull her. Turning that key into a selector would have been a nice player-friendly alternative that would not have affected the economy here, as far as I can tell.
After opening 45 of these, and getting most of the objectives rewards:
-RNG was mid to good for me. I got 4 new 7 stars and a nice Titan one (Scream). - I formed 2 r3s, and that s because I got one and a half cat from SBC. There s 3 more catalysts yet to claim If the realm event gets there, so RNG aside, not full 3 R3s. Who exactly made the calculations when comparing with CW deals? - The titan shards I totally got were around 6k. Still CW deals were better on this one. - The key reworked champs system is very bad. You can't dupe any of them if you don't whale out. - Overall, better than last year, but it wasn't a satisfied event at all. Especially since it s 10 years anniversary and all.
After opening 45 of these, and getting most of the objectives rewards:
-RNG was mid to good for me. I got 4 new 7 stars and a nice Titan one (Scream). - I formed 2 r3s, and that s because I got one and a half cat from SBC. There s 3 more catalysts yet to claim If the realm event gets there, so RNG aside, not full 3 R3s. Who exactly made the calculations when comparing with CW deals? - The titan shards I totally got were around 6k. Still CW deals were better on this one. - The key reworked champs system is very bad. You can't dupe any of them if you don't whale out. - Overall, better than last year, but it wasn't a satisfied event at all. Especially since it s 10 years anniversary and all.
After opening 45 of these, and getting most of the objectives rewards:
-RNG was mid to good for me. I got 4 new 7 stars and a nice Titan one (Scream). - I formed 2 r3s, and that s because I got one and a half cat from SBC. There s 3 more catalysts yet to claim If the realm event gets there, so RNG aside, not full 3 R3s. Who exactly made the calculations when comparing with CW deals? - The titan shards I totally got were around 6k. Still CW deals were better on this one. - The key reworked champs system is very bad. You can't dupe any of them if you don't whale out. - Overall, better than last year, but it wasn't a satisfied event at all. Especially since it s 10 years anniversary and all.
if you don't think the crystals are great then the best thing to do is not spend but don't trash the devs, it's your responsibility to look at the odds and determine what's best.
that said, i pulled ~70 crystals and got trash, but i think the milestones are solid but anything past that is not worth it. very disappointed with my superior banquet crystal RNG, hope y'all do better.
After opening 45 of these, and getting most of the objectives rewards:
-RNG was mid to good for me. I got 4 new 7 stars and a nice Titan one (Scream). - I formed 2 r3s, and that s because I got one and a half cat from SBC. There s 3 more catalysts yet to claim If the realm event gets there, so RNG aside, not full 3 R3s. Who exactly made the calculations when comparing with CW deals? - The titan shards I totally got were around 6k. Still CW deals were better on this one. - The key reworked champs system is very bad. You can't dupe any of them if you don't whale out. - Overall, better than last year, but it wasn't a satisfied event at all. Especially since it s 10 years anniversary and all.
@Kabam I spend 24K units and I got only few basic T6 and Alfa3 , iso and 3000 7* shards . It is normal ? I am Valiant players and I have already 30 basic T6 cata in my stock and don’t need it much. Why you don’t give more things interesting ? The real problem , with 24K units , we have only 3000 7* shards … and nothing better than this . If it is normal for 24K units this , every month , I will give you these items , and you can give me 24K units ? Something not normal … it is not easy to have 24K units . 4K is $100 in game . You should see again your rewards or your RNG or your algorithms. We can’t spend 24K units only for few 7* shards. I am disappointed.
You don't even know the drop rates yet, how could you possibly know how much of the crystal is filler, even by your own definition?
Anyways, contribute to one of the existing threads please.
dude, the vast majority of the community is giving negative feedback and this is your response to me.
You have no understanding of what the "vast majority" is.
There have been a good number of complaints today so I understand the hyperbole, especially in the forums where it's a more focused view. I think the banquet pull thread being mostly positive alongside this one with understandable frustration and complaints demonstrates, as always, there's going to be a range of reactions and feelings towards just about any event or action in game. Think it's important to have this space though for folks to voice their frustrations as long as we can keep it respectful. Keep it focused on us and on the specifics, we can take that back to the team and discuss. Attacking fellow summoners (and this isn't directed at you demonzfyre I was just initially replying to your comment) and/or kabam staff isn't productive and those comments are more likely to be removed. But as long as the criticism is constructive we want to hear it.
Another constructive comment: there’s really not a good reason in my opinion for the T7b, especially at 5% chance in super small amounts.
I’ve pulled it 3X, which was exciting until I realized this is the amount I need to form one.
I need three for a R4–something I really don’t need and didn’t expect to get close to from this event. Amassing more would require my alliance to finish Top 10 or for me to finish Top 3% solo.
Including such a new and rare resource as a 5% drop in tiny amounts feels very off, in a similar vein to the huge amount of T6c I commented on above.
Dr. Zola
For us regular Joe Schmo’s? I can see where you’re coming from. But there are people who wire transfer money directly to Kabam in order to have thousands of crystals imported into their accounts to avoid buying them 10 at a time.
These people? They’re willing to spend the big bucks in order to have a r4.
This is correct, but only whales are getting any significant chunk of their T7b from the SBCs. Ranking as an ally and solo are where the larger fragments are at.
If the 5% drop rate for T7b from SBCs holds true, a whale would need to open 2000 SBCs to reasonably expect to form a single T7b and 6000 SBCs to get a full set for R4.
I’m not saying people won’t do that—one would need to do at least that to finish at the top of the solo event—but it makes little sense to make Joe Schmo pull resources he won’t need for months if even that soon. I would have just put the T7b in the rank rewards and boosted chances for something else (not T6b!!).
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I’m sorry but I’d be ticked if I still wasn’t valiant 🤷♂️
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
Also casually ignoring everything that I got from milestones 🤷♂️
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I’m sorry but I’d be ticked if I still wasn’t valiant 🤷♂️
I didn’t say anything ( I’m editing this so I don’t get banned )
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
He got 2 shots at reworks lol
It’s actually 3, going up to 4 next week- milestones rewards.
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I’m sorry but I’d be ticked if I still wasn’t valiant 🤷♂️
or maybe it’s cus I don’t glaze kabams d***
no wonder why you got the good drop rates
I get being mad about the banquet stuff but cmon dude it’s not that worth saying that stuff and getting banned lmao
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I’m sorry but I’d be ticked if I still wasn’t valiant 🤷♂️
or maybe it’s cus I don’t glaze kabams d***
no wonder why you got the good drop rates
Gotcha… the only way to get valiant is “glaze Kabam’s d***”
I'm curious on 1 thing, this type of events should make you want to open more and more, buy more units to open more, buy crystals... All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
I have no regrets…
I’m sorry but I would be ticked if I opened 53 and got 2 7* and a shot at the rework I wanted
I’m sorry but I’d be ticked if I still wasn’t valiant 🤷♂️
or maybe it’s cus I don’t glaze kabams d***
no wonder why you got the good drop rates
I get being mad about the banquet stuff but cmon dude it’s not that worth saying that stuff and getting banned lmao
your right, I shouldn’t have said it, but ay it looks like it ain’t going away, it’s been quoted too many times
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All I am seeing is people with regrets of spending units they had lol....
They need to start adding in nexus style options. If your a whale buy thousands of these things wanting T7b you can choose the small cumulative amounts. Everyone else who wants to can select something that will be of use to us.
These people? They’re willing to spend the big bucks in order to have a r4.
Also, the Event literally just started today. We have 2 weeks to have a chance at other pulls. I find it too soon to sum up the entire Event.
We just got 10 free 7*s. I think part of the problem is expectations. Could they improve it? Sure. They listened to some of the feedback last year. That doesn't mean they can give people everything they want. Only some of it. That's a part of balancing any game.
I routinely have to let t6b and t3a expire because I can't bring myself to rank spuds that have no value just to use a resource that while valuable, has no value if the rankup itself has none.
I'm not really the target market for these events since I won't whale but it does seem a little disappointing for any midgame or better valiant.
I'll also second @DrZola 's point that the tiny trickle of T7a feels a bit silly. That's just going to sit dormant in my account for several months, probably.
I did get enough shards for about 3 7* crystals (mostly from the milestones, I think), and unfortunately just pulled repeated dupes from nearly all of them. My best outcome was to awaken my 7* Juggs. The two keys that I got (both from milestones) happened to pull 2 champs that I don't really want, and it's particularly frustrating because I absolutely love Medusa and wanted to pull her. Turning that key into a selector would have been a nice player-friendly alternative that would not have affected the economy here, as far as I can tell.
-RNG was mid to good for me. I got 4 new 7 stars and a nice Titan one (Scream).
- I formed 2 r3s, and that s because I got one and a half cat from SBC. There s 3 more catalysts yet to claim If the realm event gets there, so RNG aside, not full 3 R3s. Who exactly made the calculations when comparing with CW deals?
- The titan shards I totally got were around 6k. Still CW deals were better on this one.
- The key reworked champs system is very bad. You can't dupe any of them if you don't whale out.
- Overall, better than last year, but it wasn't a satisfied event at all. Especially since it s 10 years anniversary and all.
that said, i pulled ~70 crystals and got trash, but i think the milestones are solid but anything past that is not worth it. very disappointed with my superior banquet crystal RNG, hope y'all do better.
I am Valiant players and I have already 30 basic T6 cata in my stock and don’t need it much. Why you don’t give more things interesting ?
The real problem , with 24K units , we have only 3000 7* shards … and nothing better than this .
If it is normal for 24K units this , every month , I will give you these items , and you can give me 24K units ? Something not normal … it is not easy to have 24K units . 4K is $100 in game .
You should see again your rewards or your RNG or your algorithms.
We can’t spend 24K units only for few 7* shards.
I am disappointed.
If the 5% drop rate for T7b from SBCs holds true, a whale would need to open 2000 SBCs to reasonably expect to form a single T7b and 6000 SBCs to get a full set for R4.
I’m not saying people won’t do that—one would need to do at least that to finish at the top of the solo event—but it makes little sense to make Joe Schmo pull resources he won’t need for months if even that soon. I would have just put the T7b in the rank rewards and boosted chances for something else (not T6b!!).
Dr. Zola
your right, I shouldn’t have said it, but ay it looks like it ain’t going away, it’s been quoted too many times