Very very disappointed for this event Banquet , end of Year ! Kabam should do something better . 25K units spent but 0 titans, not R3 and others… it is not normal . 25K units = should equal to 3 Titans + more R3 stones + … Maybe should add more in milestones for people who spend really in units , invest in game . Nothing good for valiant players
Kabam should get rid of the realm event, it’s real hammer and sickle type stuff, and adds nothing to the experience of the game
No ! The realm event is quite nice and is not the problem here.
The main problem is that those superior crystals rewards are not worth the 300 units we are spending. When someone buy and open a crystal he wants something worth the units spent. We all know it might take 5 or 10 or 20 crystals to get a global rewards worth our money.
Kabam put the good rewards in the realm event but nobody cares that if you open crystals, everyone will benefits ! What we care is how it will benefit us right now when we open those crystals we bought with our money. It’s ok if it benefit others with the realm event but we don’t buy crystals for other but for us 🤷♂️
Maybe Kabam can correct this :
- By sending compensation to those buying crystals (not sure it’s the best option though) or - By creating a Christmas gift (a good one not just 1 revive ) to appease players or - By modifying the current crystal drop rate if possible or - a special Christmas calendar ? - Specials gifts attached to Odin ? - Specials rewards that can be bought in the in game store
Or whatever solution that will make those damn crystal really worth buying !
I do not think you are wrong but I did want to chime in. The issue at hand is there is no win, win, win here and that meaning no win for Kabaam, no win for the heavy spenders and no win for the non spenders. If they change percentages now then everyone who spent get nothing and feel cheated, them adding extra to the milestones is fine but it should have been lower on the list , the only type of Christmas gift worth anything is if they give out 10k units to everyone for free. The realm event is a nice addition but when the event gears more to spending money it shafts the non spenders/low spenders, I spent 2k units with around an 8k score, I cannot get any of the good realm milestones unless I spend $300 more which I don't have, when the realm event gears to just playing the game more like the bg one then those are awesome.
The X amount of units as a giveaway makes it a little better, it helps some who spent that much and if you did not then you got a Happy Holidays gift. I also believe they should just give us the realm event as a Holiday/End of year gift.
The Grand Banquet Heist should have been the event name. And those rumored XMAS “gifts” better be nerfed for players who would’ve received all Realm Event milestones.
Again for those not listening. The only 2 things kabam pays attention to are your wallet and your App Store rating. Give them 1 star in the App Store and stop spending.
This might be the worst banquet since the game started. It’s lame, nothing fun or exciting. It’s just super “BLAH”. After ten years, I might finally move on from MCOC.
It goes without saying that the greatest problem with this event is the contents of the SBC.
Now I'll grant you, everything in the crystal is relevant to 7* champs, but you clearly put too much weight on the value of a 7*r2 by including the small amounts of T6CC shards and T5CC.
While this may be great for the Thronebreakers, it's an incredible stretch to say it's valuable for the majority of Valiants.
At the start of this event, I had 22 7*R3 champs, with enough materials and gems to do another 8 more. I point that out to emphasize the massive delta between a late game Valiant account and an early Thronebreaker account. There is simply no world in which rewards for these titles should be bulked together, and frankly, I can't think of a good reason why you would even want to do that, as you will undoubtedly reach one of two outcomes:
1) Flooding Thronebreakers with end game resources they probably shouldn't have
2) Alienating the end game Valiants
You've clearly chosen the latter.
My constructive criticism for ALL things going forward...stop bulking progressions together. The Valiant title has been around long enough, and has enough avenues to achieve it, that there is no excuse for a player to not reach it. Simply put, if the gap between a Valiant and a Thronebreaker or Paragon grows larger because of the crystals they have access to, those players have no one to blame but themselves.
As for how to gain back some good will from the community on the heels of this event.....I honestly don't know. I mean, I have ideas, but I'm certain they wouldn't be considered "reasonable", because I know things won't be looked at on an individual account basis.
Best I can think of right now is the following:
1) Create multiple packages, like a low-, mid-, and high-tier package that would be considered desirable by each progression title. 1a) So that's three different packages for Valiants, Paragons, Thronebreakers, etc 2) Issue those packages based on the contributions they made to the realm event 2a) For example, a Valiant that contributed 10k gets the low-tier package. A 20k contribution gets the mid-tier, and a 30k contribution gets the high-tier.
I recognize this would take time, but I'm sure you'll have the data to do something like this.
Oh, it goes without saying you should also add several more milestones to the realm event, and call the Stark Foundation to make their contributions to carry us all the way. Right now, the "juicy" rewards put there likely won't be achieved cause no one cares enough about opening the crystals to get there.
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
Based on what I've seen in the feedback from the player base and your (Kabam) response of the intent , I think the easiest solution for everyone to meet some middle ground here is this:
Since as is the bulk of the rewards are intentionally in the milestones, I think the simplest solution is make the milestones easier to hit for everyone.
Simply reward more points per buy/open (double the points across the events) For example the Superior Crystal from 300 per and buy 100 per open to 600 per buy and 200 per open. This makes the milestones easier for everyone to achieve and then even those who can only open a small amount will still be able to hit some milestones. When they code it just double everyone existing points when it goes live.
I hope this doesn't get lost in 27 pages of middle fingers, because i honestly think its a good solution.
Personally I opened around 80 crystals so far, bought all 4 of the 49.99 USD deals, had some tickets and tokens saved up from other USD money deals a long the way. I can whole heartedly agree with the disappointment in the Banquet crystals but i do understand Kabam's perspective on them.
I recorded my opening for a you tube video but unfortunately nothing really happened worth editing into a one. So, I'm not sure if that will make it out yet.
I would love to have seen the Box champ randomizer, be a selector instead It was a miss you gave me sig stones that only be used on Box champs that i have to draw twice to use but you only gave me two keys. Could be more keys in the milestones.
Christmas banquet.. A huge hoax, they put few interesting things in the crystals, with a really low percentage of exit from the casino, just to take onngiro... and if you want good things as always you have to spend... otherwise nothing... in addition the goals have been studied to make you spend and much more than in previous years... Otherwise you don't get a ****
I believe, there was no need to include 7* sig stones for guardians in the earlier milestones. Somebody, who didn’t get 7+ keys or AG from the later milestone has no value with that. Not everybody gonna get AG for 21k points, not everybody gonna have opportunity to spend random AG on random character from box. There is a large group of people, that will be screwed. I believe that these sig stones should be in later milestones, than guardians AG, so people, who really wanna awaken smb and spend sig stones on this character can do it, and those, who don’t wanna push hard, didn’t have this useless filler in their rewards.
I've been thinking about something that might work in the future to make the crystals more valuable and exciting for everyone without enabling spenders to buy the whole farm.
I'm sorry if this is a poor explanation, but what if there were"keys" in the banquet crystals (with a comparatively high drop rate) that could be exchanged for limited rewards in a banquet store... Instead of (or in addition to) having a .02% chance at a Titan crystal, you could have a 10% -15% chance of a banquet key, which could be exchanged in the store for high value rewards (titan/selector/rank-up or awakening gems) up to a a reasonable limit of each. Excess keys could go towards less valuable catalyst selectors/gold/etc available in higher quantities. Alternatively, it could go the way of a holiday quest with path gates.... (Deadpool holiday shopping? Symbiotes dressed as elves?)
I think that this would maintain the value of the crystals to big spenders while creating a path for ftp/grind/dolphin players to feel satisfied that they got something valuable in direct relation to their investment in a way that the milestones seemed to miss. My intent is to minimize the risk of someone blowing 12k units /$400 on crystals with only 5-10k shards and some rank-up materials to show for it, which I think is what happened here, (in spite of the many, many, generous gifts.)
I always hated the banquet event. The terrible RNG of the crystals, the gamble to spend for the hope you or your alliance ranks high enough, the unit spend. Banquet crystals always had bad rewards for the 300 unit cost, so I don't understand the sudden shock to how bad they are this year. But after I added up all the rewards across the solo, alliance, and realm milestones, what you get for less than 15k units are way better than anything offered before. If the realm event hits milestone 28 (the minimum 20088 points) and you achieve 20088 points, the rewards are incredible: -60,000 7 star shards -3 Glorious Guardians 7 stars -7 star Awakening gem crystal worth of shards -Enough Rank up material for 2 7* Rank 3 -2 7* rank 2 to rank 3 gems -1 Ascension -5000 Titan shards
Plus they even added 2 7 star crystals and a 7 Star Nexus, after all the complaints. These are just from the milestones, so anything I get from the SBCs are just a bonus.
Tell me where else have you seen this much rewards. I came out of the last cyber week spending more units (20k) and got less rewards. I have always spent my money and units during cyber week. But the fact that these rewards are guaranteed for less than 15k units, makes this a great value. I'm in the minority of my opinion of this event, but damn Kabam did a great job. Yes the SGCs could have better odds, but banquet crystals always had bad odds. They even made the Crystal better, by adding Superior Banquet Crystals, with less trash and more high chase rewards. My main problem with past banquet events was the huge RNG and low guaranteed value. Kabam actually listened and improved drastically on the guarantee values. Last year a 300 unit greater banquet crystal would get me 2 tier 5 basics or 4k 6 star shards. Where was all this drop rate hate last year? They removed most of the trash drop items from the crystals.
This is the best banquet/gifting event that Kabam did so far.
dude you got your calculations all wrong and also where did you even look to find the rank 2-3 gems? Because there are none. Kabam keeps throwing at us rank 1-2 gems when this event will bring the first rank 4s in game lol
Where did I say rank 2-3 gems? Lmao. Learn to read and how to do some math.
I always hated the banquet event. The terrible RNG of the crystals, the gamble to spend for the hope you or your alliance ranks high enough, the unit spend. Banquet crystals always had bad rewards for the 300 unit cost, so I don't understand the sudden shock to how bad they are this year. But after I added up all the rewards across the solo, alliance, and realm milestones, what you get for less than 15k units are way better than anything offered before. If the realm event hits milestone 28 (the minimum 20088 points) and you achieve 20088 points, the rewards are incredible: -60,000 7 star shards -3 Glorious Guardians 7 stars -7 star Awakening gem crystal worth of shards -Enough Rank up material for 2 7* Rank 3 -2 7* rank 2 to rank 3 gems -1 Ascension -5000 Titan shards
Plus they even added 2 7 star crystals and a 7 Star Nexus, after all the complaints. These are just from the milestones, so anything I get from the SBCs are just a bonus.
Tell me where else have you seen this much rewards. I came out of the last cyber week spending more units (20k) and got less rewards. I have always spent my money and units during cyber week. But the fact that these rewards are guaranteed for less than 15k units, makes this a great value. I'm in the minority of my opinion of this event, but damn Kabam did a great job. Yes the SGCs could have better odds, but banquet crystals always had bad odds. They even made the Crystal better, by adding Superior Banquet Crystals, with less trash and more high chase rewards. My main problem with past banquet events was the huge RNG and low guaranteed value. Kabam actually listened and improved drastically on the guarantee values. Last year a 300 unit greater banquet crystal would get me 2 tier 5 basics or 4k 6 star shards. Where was all this drop rate hate last year? They removed most of the trash drop items from the crystals.
This is the best banquet/gifting event that Kabam did so far.
Typo, was supposed to be 2 7* 1 to 2 gems.
But still, the numbers don't lie. Do the math for the milestones. Just a reminder of last year's crystal: I remember the utter disgust of getting 6 star shards or Tier 2 alphas.
I’ve already posted about my disappointment with the Grand Banquet Event, and after some thought, here’s what I’d do if I were Kabam:
1. Improve the Crystals: Right now, the SBCs are filled with small insegnificant rank up materials, that feel horrible to pay 300 units for. I’d eliminate the small frags and shards, and only include fully formed catalysts and increase drop rate for the top-tier items like Titan shards and Trophy champs. We all know how great it feels to open a crystal that actually matters in som way.
2. Reimburse the Players: I’d give everyone an anount equal to the SBCs they’ve already opened, allowing everyone a fair shot at the improved rewards.
3. Unlock All Event Milestones: To really show appreciation for the community, I’d unlock every milestone in the realm event. This would ensure that everyone feels rewarded and valued, as there would be no mcoc without the players
4. Send Out Special Packages: Considering how much everyone has invested, I’d send out grand compensation packages based on the number of SBCs opened and progression level, making sure not to separate valiant and paragon players(as there are alot of players who have shared theirs opinion on this)
5. Balance the Economy: Given the upcoming introduction of Rank 4, any small disruptions caused by these changes would have less of an impact. This would be a minute price for maintaining the health and happiness of our community.
I’ve already posted about my disappointment with the Grand Banquet Event, and after some thought, here’s what I’d do if I were Kabam:
1. Improve the Crystals: Right now, the SBCs are filled with small insegnificant rank up materials, that feel horrible to pay 300 units for. I’d eliminate the small frags and shards, and only include fully formed catalysts and increase drop rate for the top-tier items like Titan shards and Trophy champs. We all know how great it feels to open a crystal that actually matters in som way.
2. Reimburse the Players: I’d give everyone an anount equal to the SBCs they’ve already opened, allowing everyone a fair shot at the improved rewards.
3. Unlock All Event Milestones: To really show appreciation for the community, I’d unlock every milestone in the realm event. This would ensure that everyone feels rewarded and valued, as there would be no mcoc without the players
4. Send Out Special Packages: Considering how much everyone has invested, I’d send out grand compensation packages based on the number of SBCs opened and progression level, making sure not to separate valiant and paragon players(as there are alot of players who have shared theirs opinion on this)
5. Balance the Economy: Given the upcoming introduction of Rank 4, any small disruptions caused by these changes would have less of an impact. This would be a minute price for maintaining the health and happiness of our community.
The dumbest thing I’ve seen here. It’s insane to me how incredibly out of touch the concersation has gotten. If you participate in this yeae’s banquet and either buy all 4 bundles in the store or spend the necessary units to max out all the milestones on the realm event, the value is colossally higher than any of the previous years. This year, there is a much less rng dependent spread of rewards for EVERYONE who puts up the points. The glorious guardians are all AMAZING to INSANE champions. All of them have value. There are TWO whole 7 star awakening gems and a 7 star Isophene dupe in these milestones. WHAT EXACTLY MORE DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE CRYSTALS?
I’ve already posted about my disappointment with the Grand Banquet Event, and after some thought, here’s what I’d do if I were Kabam:
1. Improve the Crystals: Right now, the SBCs are filled with small insegnificant rank up materials, that feel horrible to pay 300 units for. I’d eliminate the small frags and shards, and only include fully formed catalysts and increase drop rate for the top-tier items like Titan shards and Trophy champs. We all know how great it feels to open a crystal that actually matters in som way.
2. Reimburse the Players: I’d give everyone an anount equal to the SBCs they’ve already opened, allowing everyone a fair shot at the improved rewards.
3. Unlock All Event Milestones: To really show appreciation for the community, I’d unlock every milestone in the realm event. This would ensure that everyone feels rewarded and valued, as there would be no mcoc without the players
4. Send Out Special Packages: Considering how much everyone has invested, I’d send out grand compensation packages based on the number of SBCs opened and progression level, making sure not to separate valiant and paragon players(as there are alot of players who have shared theirs opinion on this)
5. Balance the Economy: Given the upcoming introduction of Rank 4, any small disruptions caused by these changes would have less of an impact. This would be a minute price for maintaining the health and happiness of our community.
This is why we can't expect any better. Do you really think you are being realistic AT ALL? Rofl...
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
Gostaria que tivesse sido dado catalisadores de grau 6 inteiros e não somente os fragmentos deles. Fragmentos podemos comprar nas lojas. Além disso, mais ouro também, 250mil por cristal é pouco. Vocês dizem ser o melhor evento do ano, mas não está sendo. Queremos mais heróis de 7** estrelas também como recompensas, e as quantidades de iso-8 também não foram suficientes.
I wish they had given out whole grade 6 catalysts and not just their fragments. We can buy fragments in stores. Also, more gold too, 250k per crystal is not enough. You say it's the best event of the year, but it's not. We want more 7** star heroes as rewards too, and the amounts of iso-8 weren't enough either.
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
This year, ever since I started playing again, my friends have been talking about how wonderful the banquet event was, so I started collecting units. Since January, I have been collecting every unit I have earned to the maximum for the best event of the year, according to my fellow players. When the banquet event started, everyone was disappointed, those who had collected all the units they could throughout the year and also those who were collecting them in a hurry. What Kabam has been doing with this event is completely disrespectful. Units are a very scarce resource in this game and the rewards that are being given in the banquet crystals that cost 300 units are a joke. Gold and that? And catalyst fragments instead of a whole catalyst? A big joke in bad taste against all players. I joined the MTC in 2015, and for a long time the game filled my afternoons with joy, playing with friends and collecting heroes. However, after a long time of effort not being recognized by Kabam, I stopped playing. And with this event, I'm likely to stop playing this game again, due to the disappointment. That's why people are dedicating less and less time to the game. It's no longer fun, and we're no longer rewarded as we should be. Este ano, desde quando voltei a jogar meus amigos ficaram comentando da maravilhas do evento do banquete, então comecei juntar unidade. Desde janeiro juntando cada unidade que ganhava ao máximo para o melhor evento do ano, segundo os amigos jogadores. Quando o evento do banquete abriu, todos decepcionados, os que juntaram todas as unidade que podiam o ano todo e também aqueles que estavam juntando as pressas. Muito sem respeito nenhum o que a Kabam vem fazendo nesse evento. Unidades é um recurso muito escasso nesse jogo e as recompensas que estão sendo dadas nos cristais do banquete que custam 300 unidades são uma piada. Ouro e Isso? E fragmentos de catalisador ao invés de catalisador inteiro? Uma grande piada de mal gosto contra todos os jogadores. Entrei no MTC em 2015, e por muito tempo o jogo encheu minhas tardes de alegria, jogando com os amigos e colecionando heróis. Contudo após muito tempo de esforço não ser reconhecido pela Kabam, parei de jogar. E com o ocorrido desse evento é provável que eu pare de jogar esse jogo de novo tamanha a decepção. Por isso as pessoas a cada dia se dedicam menos ao jogo. Não é mais divertido, não somos mais recompensados como deveríamos.
Thinking back on it, I received quite a bit. 7* Jessica Jones, Onslaught, prowler, photon, DPX, Medusa, Northstar, Prof X, and Lady D. But overall the event still felt like a let down.
I spent around 13k units on crystals and the best I got was probably around 5k 7* and titan shards each as well as my lucky 7* Jessica Jones. The most I got were the 2 r3’s from the milestone, and a few r2’s.
The problem I have with the event is the filler in the crystals. The last 30 crystals I opened, I got a ton of catalyst shards (very little t4a), 2 7* sig stones, and then 1k titan and 2k 7* shards. This crystal does not have good enough drop rates to justify the cost of 300 units. 10% of a t6cc is absolutely abysmal and I can get more than that once a day for free from the daily super event (in which I can choose the class), as well as through plenty of other outlets like the battlegrounds or alliance store. If this crystal had a decreased price of around 150 units per crystal, while offering the same points, then I could get behind it. But the fact I had to spend so many units to hit the milestones, just to get most of the useful catalysts from milestones is so draining.
Banquet Crystals are meant to be a fun chance at getting something rare, while still potentially providing value. 50% t6cc, no t6c and t3a shards, and no t5cc would have made these crystals contain substantial value for valiant and paragon players. Instead, having the highest possible chance of pulling 10% of a random t6cc means that you would have to open 10 to even form a catalyst, and that’s assuming you have the same class.
These crystals provided so little value for their unit cost solely because you run the chance of something good, but as seen by many people, the odds were so stacked against any good pulls it didn’t even make sense to buy the crystals. The events were fine, and I understand shifting value to milestones takes away from these crystals, but they feel so tailored to lower level thronebreakers that they serve little to no benefit to paragon and valiant players outside of the chance at a great pull
I’ve already posted about my disappointment with the Grand Banquet Event, and after some thought, here’s what I’d do if I were Kabam:
1. Improve the Crystals: Right now, the SBCs are filled with small insegnificant rank up materials, that feel horrible to pay 300 units for. I’d eliminate the small frags and shards, and only include fully formed catalysts and increase drop rate for the top-tier items like Titan shards and Trophy champs. We all know how great it feels to open a crystal that actually matters in som way.
2. Reimburse the Players: I’d give everyone an anount equal to the SBCs they’ve already opened, allowing everyone a fair shot at the improved rewards.
3. Unlock All Event Milestones: To really show appreciation for the community, I’d unlock every milestone in the realm event. This would ensure that everyone feels rewarded and valued, as there would be no mcoc without the players
4. Send Out Special Packages: Considering how much everyone has invested, I’d send out grand compensation packages based on the number of SBCs opened and progression level, making sure not to separate valiant and paragon players(as there are alot of players who have shared theirs opinion on this)
5. Balance the Economy: Given the upcoming introduction of Rank 4, any small disruptions caused by these changes would have less of an impact. This would be a minute price for maintaining the health and happiness of our community.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
Two things that frustrate me that has not been stated yet…
I accumulated a lot of Banquet bundle tickets. After exchanging for the sinister deals, I had enough to buy 50 superior banquet crystals. Opening only counts the opening of the crystal of 100…. Technically they are purchased but you don’t get the 300 purchase credit. Losing out on 15,000 points.
The other frustrating point is with those crystals I did not get one key - actually opened 90 superior banquet crystals. A person in my alliance opened 35 SBC and drew 3 keys. I understand it’s based on percentages but that does not add up.
Ok, I did a little looking into the drop rates, and the total number of outcomes that would be considered good vs filler. I believe they were correct on The stream that 50% of the outcomes are filler. But that 50% is weighted very heavily.
The known quantity outcomes that I actually would consider not to be filler is about a 2.4% chance to occur. Adding the 7*/Titan shards in an amount that I wouldn't consider filler isn't specified, but probably only ups the total chance of an outcome that's decent would maybe hit 4%.
That means that the "50% filler" portion of returns actually has well over a 90% chance of occuring, when everyone watching the stream interpreted "50% filler" to be getting filler 50% of the time.
Ot I could be overthinking this, and Kabams idea of filler is waaaay differnet than mine, which is the most likely outcome.
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
I understand there will be some filler but even the hits feel bad. Two seven star sig stones? 1500 seven star shards? 1% of a tier seven? I think I’d be less upset if the hits were more substantial. I get I’m not going to get a full Titan with every pull but I mean between the milestones being way too high and the crystals being mostly misses this is the most frustrated I feel like the December event has ever been.
Ok, I did a little looking into the drop rates, and the total number of outcomes that would be considered good vs filler. I believe they were correct on The stream that 50% of the outcomes are filler. But that 50% is weighted very heavily.
The known quantity outcomes that I actually would consider not to be filler is about a 2.4% chance to occur. Adding the 7*/Titan shards in an amount that I wouldn't consider filler isn't specified, but probably only ups the total chance of an outcome that's decent would maybe hit 4%.
That means that the "50% filler" portion of returns actually has well over a 90% chance of occuring, when everyone watching the stream interpreted "50% filler" to be getting filler 50% of the time.
Ot I could be overthinking this, and Kabams idea of filler is waaaay differnet than mine, which is the most likely outcome.
exactly they were right about crystals having 50 percent filler content , but that filler has really really high drop rate and the good stuff has such a low drop rate that even opening 250+ crystals doesnot guarantee that we would get good stuff which is atrocious. last banquet even though was hot garbage as well, i got 7 star prof x and all the 5 star trophy champs(i was cavalier so it was worth it) under 7k units and this year with 13.2 k units and 12 crystals from sinister bundle i did not land any key , titan jackpot, trophy champs, 7 star selector... nothing
@mcoc team, Bought an Odin expecting a Gifted Guardian Key just like it says in game. No key & no offer to make it right. When the game team says something is available they should make sure the product is actually for sale
U should read it more carefully banquet all fathers odin whats in game atm is just an all fathers vault the bundle will drop on christmas deals
Where does it say there that the particular Odin needed is not available currently? It's misleading to say the least. Every other event they have throughout the year, deals are released in conjunction with the event. This should've been no different.
That's how it's always been. They open the event with the cash for crystals deal, then that goes away and we get the special unit bundles, then those go away and cash for crystals comes back. Every Year.
This whole event is a fraud and a scam. Pls just Refund my money or I'll file a lawsuit for going against european laws and I'll chargeback all the purchasing i made. Worst event ever.
What fraud? The drop rates, crappy as they were, were published.
And do what?I'm talking about time spent.why would you quit something just because you do it a lot.thats completely backwards
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Kabam should do something better .
25K units spent but 0 titans, not R3 and others… it is not normal .
25K units = should equal to 3 Titans + more R3 stones + …
Maybe should add more in milestones for people who spend really in units , invest in game .
Nothing good for valiant players
The X amount of units as a giveaway makes it a little better, it helps some who spent that much and if you did not then you got a Happy Holidays gift. I also believe they should just give us the realm event as a Holiday/End of year gift.
It goes without saying that the greatest problem with this event is the contents of the SBC.
Now I'll grant you, everything in the crystal is relevant to 7* champs, but you clearly put too much weight on the value of a 7*r2 by including the small amounts of T6CC shards and T5CC.
While this may be great for the Thronebreakers, it's an incredible stretch to say it's valuable for the majority of Valiants.
At the start of this event, I had 22 7*R3 champs, with enough materials and gems to do another 8 more. I point that out to emphasize the massive delta between a late game Valiant account and an early Thronebreaker account. There is simply no world in which rewards for these titles should be bulked together, and frankly, I can't think of a good reason why you would even want to do that, as you will undoubtedly reach one of two outcomes:
1) Flooding Thronebreakers with end game resources they probably shouldn't have
2) Alienating the end game Valiants
You've clearly chosen the latter.
My constructive criticism for ALL things going forward...stop bulking progressions together. The Valiant title has been around long enough, and has enough avenues to achieve it, that there is no excuse for a player to not reach it. Simply put, if the gap between a Valiant and a Thronebreaker or Paragon grows larger because of the crystals they have access to, those players have no one to blame but themselves.
As for how to gain back some good will from the community on the heels of this event.....I honestly don't know. I mean, I have ideas, but I'm certain they wouldn't be considered "reasonable", because I know things won't be looked at on an individual account basis.
Best I can think of right now is the following:
1) Create multiple packages, like a low-, mid-, and high-tier package that would be considered desirable by each progression title.
1a) So that's three different packages for Valiants, Paragons, Thronebreakers, etc
2) Issue those packages based on the contributions they made to the realm event
2a) For example, a Valiant that contributed 10k gets the low-tier package. A 20k contribution gets the mid-tier, and a 30k contribution gets the high-tier.
I recognize this would take time, but I'm sure you'll have the data to do something like this.
Oh, it goes without saying you should also add several more milestones to the realm event, and call the Stark Foundation to make their contributions to carry us all the way. Right now, the "juicy" rewards put there likely won't be achieved cause no one cares enough about opening the crystals to get there.
Merry Christmas!
Since as is the bulk of the rewards are intentionally in the milestones, I think the simplest solution is make the milestones easier to hit for everyone.
Simply reward more points per buy/open (double the points across the events) For example the Superior Crystal from 300 per and buy 100 per open to 600 per buy and 200 per open. This makes the milestones easier for everyone to achieve and then even those who can only open a small amount will still be able to hit some milestones. When they code it just double everyone existing points when it goes live.
I hope this doesn't get lost in 27 pages of middle fingers, because i honestly think its a good solution.
Personally I opened around 80 crystals so far, bought all 4 of the 49.99 USD deals, had some tickets and tokens saved up from other USD money deals a long the way. I can whole heartedly agree with the disappointment in the Banquet crystals but i do understand Kabam's perspective on them.
I recorded my opening for a you tube video but unfortunately nothing really happened worth editing into a one. So, I'm not sure if that will make it out yet.
I would love to have seen the Box champ randomizer, be a selector instead
It was a miss you gave me sig stones that only be used on Box champs that i have to draw twice to use but you only gave me two keys. Could be more keys in the milestones.
I'm sorry if this is a poor explanation, but what if there were"keys" in the banquet crystals (with a comparatively high drop rate) that could be exchanged for limited rewards in a banquet store... Instead of (or in addition to) having a .02% chance at a Titan crystal, you could have a 10% -15% chance of a banquet key, which could be exchanged in the store for high value rewards (titan/selector/rank-up or awakening gems) up to a a reasonable limit of each. Excess keys could go towards less valuable catalyst selectors/gold/etc available in higher quantities. Alternatively, it could go the way of a holiday quest with path gates.... (Deadpool holiday shopping? Symbiotes dressed as elves?)
I think that this would maintain the value of the crystals to big spenders while creating a path for ftp/grind/dolphin players to feel satisfied that they got something valuable in direct relation to their investment in a way that the milestones seemed to miss. My intent is to minimize the risk of someone blowing 12k units /$400 on crystals with only 5-10k shards and some rank-up materials to show for it, which I think is what happened here, (in spite of the many, many, generous gifts.)
But still, the numbers don't lie.
Do the math for the milestones.
Just a reminder of last year's crystal:
I remember the utter disgust of getting 6 star shards or Tier 2 alphas.
1. Improve the Crystals: Right now, the SBCs are filled with small insegnificant rank up materials, that feel horrible to pay 300 units for. I’d eliminate the small frags and shards, and only include fully formed catalysts and increase drop rate for the top-tier items like Titan shards and Trophy champs. We all know how great it feels to open a crystal that actually matters in som way.
2. Reimburse the Players: I’d give everyone an anount equal to the SBCs they’ve already opened, allowing everyone a fair shot at the improved rewards.
3. Unlock All Event Milestones: To really show appreciation for the community, I’d unlock every milestone in the realm event. This would ensure that everyone feels rewarded and valued, as there would be no mcoc without the players
4. Send Out Special Packages: Considering how much everyone has invested, I’d send out grand compensation packages based on the number of SBCs opened and progression level, making sure not to separate valiant and paragon players(as there are alot of players who have shared theirs opinion on this)
5. Balance the Economy: Given the upcoming introduction of Rank 4, any small disruptions caused by these changes would have less of an impact. This would be a minute price for maintaining the health and happiness of our community.
WHAT EXACTLY MORE DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE CRYSTALS?
I wish they had given out whole grade 6 catalysts and not just their fragments. We can buy fragments in stores. Also, more gold too, 250k per crystal is not enough. You say it's the best event of the year, but it's not. We want more 7** star heroes as rewards too, and the amounts of iso-8 weren't enough either.
Este ano, desde quando voltei a jogar meus amigos ficaram comentando da maravilhas do evento do banquete, então comecei juntar unidade. Desde janeiro juntando cada unidade que ganhava ao máximo para o melhor evento do ano, segundo os amigos jogadores. Quando o evento do banquete abriu, todos decepcionados, os que juntaram todas as unidade que podiam o ano todo e também aqueles que estavam juntando as pressas. Muito sem respeito nenhum o que a Kabam vem fazendo nesse evento. Unidades é um recurso muito escasso nesse jogo e as recompensas que estão sendo dadas nos cristais do banquete que custam 300 unidades são uma piada. Ouro e Isso? E fragmentos de catalisador ao invés de catalisador inteiro? Uma grande piada de mal gosto contra todos os jogadores. Entrei no MTC em 2015, e por muito tempo o jogo encheu minhas tardes de alegria, jogando com os amigos e colecionando heróis. Contudo após muito tempo de esforço não ser reconhecido pela Kabam, parei de jogar. E com o ocorrido desse evento é provável que eu pare de jogar esse jogo de novo tamanha a decepção. Por isso as pessoas a cada dia se dedicam menos ao jogo. Não é mais divertido, não somos mais recompensados como deveríamos.
Some of us didn't even get the Salisbury steak...we got the "McRib", and the nuggets 😂😭
I spent around 13k units on crystals and the best I got was probably around 5k 7* and titan shards each as well as my lucky 7* Jessica Jones. The most I got were the 2 r3’s from the milestone, and a few r2’s.
The problem I have with the event is the filler in the crystals. The last 30 crystals I opened, I got a ton of catalyst shards (very little t4a), 2 7* sig stones, and then 1k titan and 2k 7* shards. This crystal does not have good enough drop rates to justify the cost of 300 units. 10% of a t6cc is absolutely abysmal and I can get more than that once a day for free from the daily super event (in which I can choose the class), as well as through plenty of other outlets like the battlegrounds or alliance store. If this crystal had a decreased price of around 150 units per crystal, while offering the same points, then I could get behind it. But the fact I had to spend so many units to hit the milestones, just to get most of the useful catalysts from milestones is so draining.
Banquet Crystals are meant to be a fun chance at getting something rare, while still potentially providing value. 50% t6cc, no t6c and t3a shards, and no t5cc would have made these crystals contain substantial value for valiant and paragon players. Instead, having the highest possible chance of pulling 10% of a random t6cc means that you would have to open 10 to even form a catalyst, and that’s assuming you have the same class.
These crystals provided so little value for their unit cost solely because you run the chance of something good, but as seen by many people, the odds were so stacked against any good pulls it didn’t even make sense to buy the crystals. The events were fine, and I understand shifting value to milestones takes away from these crystals, but they feel so tailored to lower level thronebreakers that they serve little to no benefit to paragon and valiant players outside of the chance at a great pull
I accumulated a lot of Banquet bundle tickets. After exchanging for the sinister deals, I had enough to buy 50 superior banquet crystals. Opening only counts the opening of the crystal of 100…. Technically they are purchased but you don’t get the 300 purchase credit. Losing out on 15,000 points.
The other frustrating point is with those crystals I did not get one key - actually opened 90 superior banquet crystals. A person in my alliance opened 35 SBC and drew 3 keys. I understand it’s based on percentages but that does not add up.
The known quantity outcomes that I actually would consider not to be filler is about a 2.4% chance to occur. Adding the 7*/Titan shards in an amount that I wouldn't consider filler isn't specified, but probably only ups the total chance of an outcome that's decent would maybe hit 4%.
That means that the "50% filler" portion of returns actually has well over a 90% chance of occuring, when everyone watching the stream interpreted "50% filler" to be getting filler 50% of the time.
Ot I could be overthinking this, and Kabams idea of filler is waaaay differnet than mine, which is the most likely outcome.