Still radio silence. I wonder if anyone did what I said besides me and not spend and drop 1 star reviews. Boycott 2.0.
What’s kinda funny is the game team has been commenting on other threads from yesterday. I know we are letting them enjoy their holiday just like ours but the communication has been very poor
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
Let me begin by saying I really love this game and I want you guys to be successful. I put my money where my mouth is by spending over $10K a year buying buying buying
You really messed up with this one. Like royally.
Your usual 'first offer replaced by better offer' cycle didn't annoy me anywhere near as much this year as last - but as I paid for more and more and continued to get the same Thronebreaker tier rewards I got more and more angry.
Its great that you're patting yourselves on the back for doing such a great job... but your community is furious. That isn't a great job.
You clearly need to consult with your clientelle. Its obvious that you apply spending / gambling strategies to your game which is great for revenue.... but you do any research into client satisfaction?
I'm Valiant and a Veteran and have spent money consistently for 10 years. I spent over $2000 on this event after having spent the same on the black friday deals.
These SBC crystals have shown that you have no respect your clients, and have broken trust with some of your biggest ( and most consistent) spenders.
This was meant to be a celebration - and maybe it was for Thronebreaker and Paragon players... but Valiant players have been screwed over massively.
You got a lot of things right with the event BUT these SBC crystals are so bad that it takes all that good away. Your daily super event yields better rewards for free, then I could double that with a 350 unit spend!?!
How to make it better for people like me?
1. Apologise. Admit that you made a mistake to the Valiant players. 2. Send mind blowing compensation to Valiant players; like "holy moly they actually listened" type compensation.
Without that I'll be deleting the game in the next week and you will lose the $10K + I spend on this game annually
After careful reconsideration, I have determined that the banquet event blows big time. The superior banquet crystals are a complete waste of money, which I can’t attest personally as I wasted $400 on this garbage with little to show for it but a ton of crappy rank up materials as if I was still Thronebreaker.
My New Years Resolution? To never waste money to Kabam again. What a fraud.
This change was a shameless and disappointing cash grab. You acted like you're doing us a favor by putting big rewards and milestones, when you really just made sure we HAD to open an obscene number of crystals to get anything that isn't a class catalyst.
I waited all years for this. We all rely on this event to get a little boost so that we can compete with whales, and all this did was ensure that they're the only people who got the top-shelf prizes.
I hate what this game is becoming. It's not fun. It's prohibitively expensive. And the devs take 0 accountability for deliberately **** up a years-old gifting system.
This change was a shameless and disappointing cash grab. You acted like you're doing us a favor by putting big rewards and milestones, when you really just made sure we HAD to open an obscene number of crystals to get anything that isn't a class catalyst.
I waited all years for this. We all rely on this event to get a little boost so that we can compete with whales, and all this did was ensure that they're the only people who got the top-shelf prizes.
I hate what this game is becoming. It's not fun. It's prohibitively expensive. And the devs take 0 accountability for deliberately **** up a years-old gifting system.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
You should ask DNA for his unit guide link... If you don't think there are enough units, explain all this TBs opening thousands of units worth of SBCs. Look at the Realm event, you think those are bought? Lol...
I’ve been chasing Scream… Admittedly, I’ve spent a lot as a whale in this event. BUT after opening countless titans, and plus christmas titan nexus, I still don’t have her. After spending this much time and money in real life, there’re not many things you can’t have. This is where Kabam fails. It’s impossible to get your desired champ like it’s the most valued thing in the game…
If the SBCs had decent amount of titans, I would probably have had her. So aftfer spending this much, I still feel ripped off, no matter what. And I’m tired of sharing insight that Kabam doesn’t care. So they do themselves, each and every year.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
You should ask DNA for his unit guide link... If you don't think there are enough units, explain all this TBs opening thousands of units worth of SBCs. Look at the Realm event, you think those are bought? Lol...
i've read the post and yes there are a lot of units available, just need to pay the time cost which i already mentioned.
it's only kabam that can tell you how much of those points are gotten from bought units versus farmed units and that's wasn't even what was the point
Im pretty sure the community managers are moderating this thread , are yall also gonna leave a comments or show any form of appreciation? yall better not juke on all these summoners and after the event come up with a normal formal apology with a promise of doing better next year cuz this alaready is the next year after last banquet we deserve to be rightfully compensated
I got very lucky on a couple of the SBC, getting a couple of the Guardians Box Keys, but…
Most of the crystals that I’ve opened (past reaching all the Alliance and Solo event milestone rewards) has been lackluster results. Yes, you’ve since added 2 7* crystals and a 7* Nexus Crystal to the Realm rewards, (and thank you for that!) but these last several SBC that I’ve opened have not been anywhere near worth the cost in my opinion. But I guess at least I need to factor in whatever results I get from Rank rewards milestones at the end.
In the attached sample images, the “full” T6CC was actually just ones that happened to form from shards that were pulled. 7 crystals, or 2,100 units for this:
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
It looks like Kabam isn't going to say anything until the end of the event. Probably because we're not going to like the answer. IMO the answer will be the big rewards are in the milestones and crystals are ok. And about the same offers with 10 SBC in the web store that have been improving with additional items from 2 stamps to 1 key, the answer will be next time wait and not buy at the beginning.
It looks like Kabam isn't going to say anything until the end of the event. Probably because we're not going to like the answer.
What do you want them to say?
to admit their mistake and rectify it timely , that is before banquet ends
Didn’t you already see crashed say they did their job right. I swear they need their heads checked. 10 years was a big letdown. Now all the people who went all in for isophyne looks like they won’t get her. Gotta love good old kabam. We’ll do better next year and it was worse.
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SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed.
The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
You really messed up with this one. Like royally.
Your usual 'first offer replaced by better offer' cycle didn't annoy me anywhere near as much this year as last - but as I paid for more and more and continued to get the same Thronebreaker tier rewards I got more and more angry.
Its great that you're patting yourselves on the back for doing such a great job... but your community is furious. That isn't a great job.
You clearly need to consult with your clientelle. Its obvious that you apply spending / gambling strategies to your game which is great for revenue.... but you do any research into client satisfaction?
I'm Valiant and a Veteran and have spent money consistently for 10 years. I spent over $2000 on this event after having spent the same on the black friday deals.
These SBC crystals have shown that you have no respect your clients, and have broken trust with some of your biggest ( and most consistent) spenders.
This was meant to be a celebration - and maybe it was for Thronebreaker and Paragon players... but Valiant players have been screwed over massively.
You got a lot of things right with the event BUT these SBC crystals are so bad that it takes all that good away. Your daily super event yields better rewards for free, then I could double that with a 350 unit spend!?!
How to make it better for people like me?
1. Apologise. Admit that you made a mistake to the Valiant players.
2. Send mind blowing compensation to Valiant players; like "holy moly they actually listened" type compensation.
Without that I'll be deleting the game in the next week and you will lose the $10K + I spend on this game annually
My New Years Resolution? To never waste money to Kabam again. What a fraud.
I waited all years for this. We all rely on this event to get a little boost so that we can compete with whales, and all this did was ensure that they're the only people who got the top-shelf prizes.
I hate what this game is becoming. It's not fun. It's prohibitively expensive. And the devs take 0 accountability for deliberately **** up a years-old gifting system.
It feels really bad and I want my units back.
There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly.
in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
If you don't think there are enough units, explain all this TBs opening thousands of units worth of SBCs.
Look at the Realm event, you think those are bought? Lol...
If the SBCs had decent amount of titans, I would probably have had her. So aftfer spending this much, I still feel ripped off, no matter what. And I’m tired of sharing insight that Kabam doesn’t care. So they do themselves, each and every year.
it's only kabam that can tell you how much of those points are gotten from bought units versus farmed units and that's wasn't even what was the point
yall better not juke on all these summoners and after the event come up with a normal formal apology with a promise of doing better next year cuz this alaready is the next year after last banquet we deserve to be rightfully compensated
Most of the crystals that I’ve opened (past reaching all the Alliance and Solo event milestone rewards) has been lackluster results. Yes, you’ve since added 2 7* crystals and a 7* Nexus Crystal to the Realm rewards, (and thank you for that!) but these last several SBC that I’ve opened have not been anywhere near worth the cost in my opinion. But I guess at least I need to factor in whatever results I get from Rank rewards milestones at the end.
In the attached sample images, the “full” T6CC was actually just ones that happened to form from shards that were pulled. 7 crystals, or 2,100 units for this:
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man.
You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them.
Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units.
The choice is yours to make.
IMO the answer will be the big rewards are in the milestones and crystals are ok.
And about the same offers with 10 SBC in the web store that have been improving with additional items from 2 stamps to 1 key, the answer will be next time wait and not buy at the beginning.