Where's crashed when you need him XD. OP, if you truly did nothing wrong, I hope it gets fixed. As long as you didn't do necro with 6* r1s, I think it'll be okay. Fingers crossed you're not lying.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Okay okay what is YOUR evidence. Dna stated an instance when they talked to kabam checking cheat detection. She also referenced Crashed showing data before. And you are still on your high horse saying "I'm right I'm right" like a broken record. Why are you right? Can you actually explain, I'm curious, what makes you think its a third party they use, or ONLY third party
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Dude crash reviews it everytime he even admits to reviewing it then reports back to thread on why the ban last person who u defended was a guy who did necro itemless with impossible team and u said same thing and well crashed even went in and told u and the dude u prtected that he cheated
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
You're wrong, even though you think you're not. You've been wrong in every single comment on this post and nearly every other comment you've left on any other posts.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Okay okay what is YOUR evidence. Dna stated an instance when they talked to kabam checking cheat detection. She also referenced Crashed showing data before. And you are still on your high horse saying "I'm right I'm right" like a broken record. Why are you right? Can you actually explain, I'm curious, what makes you think its a third party they use, or ONLY third party
Because he has no evidence as he does this everytime a ban thread is open of i believe them but wont state case as he rather lie
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
I say "as far as I'm aware" because I have not talked directly to the client implementation team or the data team about every possible thing they might have done everywhere. My awareness comes from the fact that I've had discussions with the dev team about how their anti-cheat systems work, improvements that might be made to it, and brought potential false positives to them for manual review in a few cases where players were improperly banned.
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
I say "as far as I'm aware" because I have not talked directly to the client implementation team or the data team about every possible thing they might have done everywhere. My awareness comes from the fact that I've had discussions with the dev team about how their anti-cheat systems work, improvements that might be made to it, and brought potential false positives to them for manual review in a few cases where players were improperly banned.
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
I say "as far as I'm aware" because I have not talked directly to the client implementation team or the data team about every possible thing they might have done everywhere. My awareness comes from the fact that I've had discussions with the dev team about how their anti-cheat systems work, improvements that might be made to it, and brought potential false positives to them for manual review in a few cases where players were improperly banned.
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
You are completely wrong. They absolutely have a “footprint” in game cheating.
Logins and where they come from is not part of tracking cheating?
Just because you type a lot doesn’t mean you’re right. You think they use Battleye or something?
When you’re paying for companies like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike you’re going to use all their services.
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
I say "as far as I'm aware" because I have not talked directly to the client implementation team or the data team about every possible thing they might have done everywhere. My awareness comes from the fact that I've had discussions with the dev team about how their anti-cheat systems work, improvements that might be made to it, and brought potential false positives to them for manual review in a few cases where players were improperly banned.
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
You are completely wrong. They absolutely have a “footprint” in game cheating.
Logins and where they come from is not part of tracking cheating?
Just because you type a lot doesn’t mean you’re right. You think they use Battleye or something?
When you’re paying for companies like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike you’re going to use all their services.
I think u should stop replying as ur not credible and i think dna knows more than u on this topic with ant cheat
Kabam CAN see the data but don’t really look at it. They also pay a company to AI the data which is not 100% accurate.
AI is still garbage/great. It’s definitely not in a place for large businesses to be using it for things like this.
Wrong, and wrong.
As far as I am aware, Kabam does not pay a third party to use AI tools within their anti-cheat systems. And I know for a fact that Kabam inspects their operational data when reviewing cheat detection, as I've discussed the specifics of the anti-cheat detection systems with developers involved with anti-cheat operations.
Crashed has also demonstrated on multiple occasions that Kabam's own internal systems record information used to ban cheaters, and that information is reviewable by the developers. There's no AI algorithm doing that.
As far as you are aware?
It’s a third party for sure. They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
I say "as far as I'm aware" because I have not talked directly to the client implementation team or the data team about every possible thing they might have done everywhere. My awareness comes from the fact that I've had discussions with the dev team about how their anti-cheat systems work, improvements that might be made to it, and brought potential false positives to them for manual review in a few cases where players were improperly banned.
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
You are completely wrong. They absolutely have a “footprint” in game cheating.
Logins and where they come from is not part of tracking cheating?
Just because you type a lot doesn’t mean you’re right. You think they use Battleye or something?
When you’re paying for companies like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike you’re going to use all their services.
Mate. You’re just trying to be contrarian. You have commented on so many of these “I got wrongfully banned” posts and consistently take the side of the person who got banned, and every time Crashed comes in and explains that, actually, they cheated.
DNA knows what he’s talking about. It’s literally what he does for a living. There are plenty of things you can have good faith arguments about, but this just isn’t one of them.
Credibility is a currency. DNA invests his well, only staking it on subjects in which he has substantial knowledge. It’s not unreasonable to come to different conclusions, but he lays out trustworthy facts.
You, by contrast, stake your credibility on every post. You fight and argue tooth and nail for every argument you try to make, and are frequently (not always! You’ve had the right of things before and I want to give you credit for it) wrong. Because of that behavior, you’re like the boy who cried wolf. Even if you were 100% correct about something, many regular forum users would not trust you on it because you so regularly go to the mat defending points that are flat out wrong.
This is an incredibly lengthy way of saying: choose your battles. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t pick fights every time you comment. And certainly don’t do it with the guy who is widely recognized as being among the most knowledgeable members of the community.
Logins and where they come from is not part of tracking cheating?
Last I recall, they were using Splunk for that. Nobody uses SIEMs for that sort of stuff. The last time anyone really tried that was I think Silent Runner. The Navy bought a ton of it back in the day. That was one I didn't rep, because a) I broke it in testing and b) I was able to write a better correlation engine than that awful java thing they were shipping. The only people I'm aware of doing this are people who already spent the money on some big "AI" SIEM and have to justify the expense somehow. Much like everyone who bought OpenView back in the day.
You almost certainly aren't aware of this, but I'm not actually talking to you. I'm actually talking to the actual security experts out there, who might be wondering if *I'm* also must making stuff up, because if one, why not both? But there's just stuff you have to know from experience, that no amount of Google search and wikipedia reading will ever tell you. Like how Crowdstrike's portal works, and how its agents are deployed, and how no one would pump a firehose of Splunk into it even if they could, which they can't, which makes the entire exercise moot. Like how almost no one bought OpenView for themselves, it was always bought for them by some other smarty pants exec and then told to go make it work, and how that's analogous to the latest cycle of SIELEMENOPEMs.
And like how most of the industry rolls their eyes at "AI" anything. Except maybe the credit card industry. And even they don't broadcast it much.
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Except once. And for a very specific and special reason almost no one can replicate. Which is why I asked what specific phone he switched to.
It’s a third party for sure.
They’re using something like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike.
I don’t care. Just don’t tell me I’m wrong when I am not.
Rest in peace
Also, both Arctic Wolf and Crowdstrike are cyber security vendors. They have no footprint in online gaming anti-cheat technology. I'm aware of Arctic Wolf, they are mostly a SIEM vendor, and they recently bought Cylance, a product I used to work with. We're actually a vendor for Crowdstrike; we recently did a ton of emergency remediation for Crowdstrike when they had their data issue. Absolutely no one who had any idea what they were talking about would mention either Arctic Wolf or Crowdstrike in a conversation about mobile game anti-cheat. There are actual vendors in that space that do that sort of thing, most of which I've discussed using in some form or another with Kabam.
Making up stuff was a mistake. Making up stuff in the area of security to me was a big mistake. Name dropping vendors I actually either know directly or actually work with and represent would be playing chicken with a freight train.
Logins and where they come from is not part of tracking cheating?
Just because you type a lot doesn’t mean you’re right.
You think they use Battleye or something?
When you’re paying for companies like ArcticWolf or CrowdStrike you’re going to use all their services.
DNA knows what he’s talking about. It’s literally what he does for a living. There are plenty of things you can have good faith arguments about, but this just isn’t one of them.
Credibility is a currency. DNA invests his well, only staking it on subjects in which he has substantial knowledge. It’s not unreasonable to come to different conclusions, but he lays out trustworthy facts.
You, by contrast, stake your credibility on every post. You fight and argue tooth and nail for every argument you try to make, and are frequently (not always! You’ve had the right of things before and I want to give you credit for it) wrong. Because of that behavior, you’re like the boy who cried wolf. Even if you were 100% correct about something, many regular forum users would not trust you on it because you so regularly go to the mat defending points that are flat out wrong.
This is an incredibly lengthy way of saying: choose your battles. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t pick fights every time you comment. And certainly don’t do it with the guy who is widely recognized as being among the most knowledgeable members of the community.
Contrarianism is needed.
If you think I don’t know what I’m talking about, that’s fine.
I don’t tap out novels for free.
You almost certainly aren't aware of this, but I'm not actually talking to you. I'm actually talking to the actual security experts out there, who might be wondering if *I'm* also must making stuff up, because if one, why not both? But there's just stuff you have to know from experience, that no amount of Google search and wikipedia reading will ever tell you. Like how Crowdstrike's portal works, and how its agents are deployed, and how no one would pump a firehose of Splunk into it even if they could, which they can't, which makes the entire exercise moot. Like how almost no one bought OpenView for themselves, it was always bought for them by some other smarty pants exec and then told to go make it work, and how that's analogous to the latest cycle of SIELEMENOPEMs.
And like how most of the industry rolls their eyes at "AI" anything. Except maybe the credit card industry. And even they don't broadcast it much.
It’s 2012 any more old man.
Everyone is using AI and I definitely don’t agree with it but it’s a fact.
Bro getting aged out because he can’t keep up.