I would love to see more t4a added in gc. For those of us who grind season to season that is a big pain point. Maybe some more 7 star shards and titan crystals. All of this towards the lower end as the higher end already make out like bandits. Higher can have some stuff added, but lower end need some high end upgrade and 7 star shards added to rewards if you’re going to grind to gc every season.
They will probably update the top rewards for r4 7* lvl. To make those whales fight harder, I'd say add 7* ascension dust in some tiny amount. It could be meaningful and exclusive all they way until we hit the highest ranks, yet a thing worth. Probably unlocking some new feature similar to stat focus could help, e.g. can include in list of 3 unbannable champs in bgs
They will probably update the top rewards for r4 7* lvl. To make those whales fight harder, I'd say add 7* ascension dust in some tiny amount. It could be meaningful and exclusive all they way until we hit the highest ranks, yet a thing worth. Probably unlocking some new feature similar to stat focus could help, e.g. can include in list of 3 unbannable champs in bgs
No 7 star definitely doesn’t need ascending. At all
And the rarity we choose and pick will be the one we'll get, after click the button
The same can be done to Catalysts, Signature Stones, eg....
Ah yes it would be complicated to restore the removed lower tier items in a simple store so the solution is to add freaking choice selectors for all the store items.
Take out all 6* related rewards. You can get them all from the BG store if people want to 6* champs or sig stones. Especially the 6* awakening gem from the rank rewards. These are the equivalent of 1x 7* sig stone and which in this day and age isn’t enough for top players. Have an appropriate amount of 7* Sig stones and 7* awakening shards.
The best way to force kabam make any changes is huge disengagement in BG, low participation from across the board from silver all the way to celestial.
Of course! Whenever there is a pain point in a system, in this case the rewards, I get curious what the cause is. Value is a tricky thing because whats good for one person can be bad for another. I think its fair to say based on the thread that there are plenty of folks who think the current rewards don't have the value they want, but figuring out that next part, the subjective part of what would be considered valuable, that often requires a lot of group input. So I saw an opportunity to nudge this in a productive direction haha. End of the day folks criticize things that they're passionate about, if they didn't care they wouldn't comment, so because I know that that caring is there I know there's a next step we can get out of it.
Anyways, mini spiel just explaining why I always love asking for input in cases like this
@KabamPinwheel buddy the problem of reward are that all rewards are outdated from monthly quest to bg I don't see the effort to reward ratio in monthly eq so I always ignore the along with paragon gauntlet, you can understand why we ignore them because the resources we get from rewards are not to be usable in 6* higher upgrade or 7* rankups being a valiant I would say that the rewards should be somehow encouragable One more instance for autmn of agony rewards are good but they are not updated for a longer period of time earlier they were too good but now a days those rewards we can get them easily by just either daily super event or by other crystal like daily ones. Please consider it Thanks
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
Solo event first. It gives half a 7* and a fraction of a titan. That needs to get bumped to 1-1.5 7* crystals and half a titan. Obviously rank rewards need a bump too. Then GC rewards. You introduced 7* awakening gem shards during banquet, and GC rewards is perfect place to award them. Start with 2500 for top3, 2000 C4, and down to mysterium getting 500 lets say. But you'll need to stay on top of it, and in 6 months bump those figures a bit. And of course all current shard ammounts need increased. Like some 7* shard values need to be trippled to feel worth it. After a full month of BG grinding, the top few hundred people should get to open a couple 7*'s at least from the rewards.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
I think you have to be careful catering too much to advanced rosters because of the impact it can have on both (a) subsequent expectations and (b) for lack of a better phrase, “roster creep” across the board.
Personally, the items I value most are 7* focused. From least to most desirable:
1. 7* shards (I’m not missing many champs from basic, so while this is good, it’s less valuable than it used to be) 2. T4a (there are already quite a few sources of this, but it’s always needed in any amount) 3. Titan shards (also highly valued, even if it’s also a random chance at a wanted or useful champ) 4. Class or selector 7* shards (not a current item, but the ability to shave the pool a bit would be great) 5. 7* Sig stones (always useful) 6. 7* Awakening gems (most wanted for me, since I have a handful of champs I need to dupe to hit full potential and they can be saved to use with later champ acquisition)
Hope that helps. Again, as a long time player, my wants are not the same as folks still making their way through SQ or prepping to try the hardest content. Roster development of top of mind right now for me, since I don’t have a ton of champ needs.
For me personally, I would like to see some 7 star awakening crystal shards. I know I don't speak for everyone, I do spend, but not very much (mainly the daily deals every so often, the sigil and on the big events) and I am at the point now were I have most 7 stars and the ones that I am missing or want to dupe are starting to feel very improbable based on the 7 stars basic pool quantity. I feel that 7 star crystals are getting abundant enough where the awakening crystal distribution can increase.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
Milestone rewards: the lower milestones are good primarily for embers and a few trophies.
Something is fundamentally broken about GC when the only incentive for most to play is the 3-day rewards and the solo event milestones. The number of people in each rank is so small that most people are destined to be stuck in uru 3.
And I know this is a hazard of GC, but if you do advance, the tension between playing, losing and dropping versus standing pat is disheartening. Even a modest adjustment to the points system might help there. If the default was +16 for beating an evenly ranked opponent and -14 for losing, a 46.66% win rate would be a break even proposition for the scoring. Maybe that gets people to play a bit extra.
Store: the ONLY thing I buy right now is all the t4a and all the 6-star relic shards. I have 15/24 6-star relics. I have 23/24 5-star relics. I’m a low spend, medium grind player who did one necro path and became valiant after 9.1. 6-star relic shards should be 5 batches of 700, allowing for 3500 shards per week instead of 2500. T4a should be 4275 fragments per purchase instead of 2850. This would run the max to 75% of a t4a per week from BGs. If the price needed to be adjusted from 2000 per buy to 2500 per buy, so be it. But right now I’d rather not spend trophies than spend them on lesser resources, because those lesser resources don’t actually allow me to ACCOMPLISH anything.
I have 28 max ascended 6-stars. I have something like a dozen 7r3 and 25 more 7r2. At this point, I’m ranking 7-stars to fill small niches on my roster or to save revives on fights I know I have to tackle, like AoA. I have exactly 100 7-stars. I’m not gambling my trophies on a 50% (ish…I dunno) chance that I get 600 Titan shards from a 7-star.
Full disclosure that might be valuable here: after almost 7 years of every day play, I took 2 months off from Feb to April of last year. With no meaningful way to progress to valiant, there was no point for me. It wasn’t rewarding.
The marginal value of each additional rankup decreases over time. Your first 5 (or 10 or whatever) r3 champs will be stronger and more helpful as a group than the next batch.
At this point, I’d really like Kabam to preview the next saga and let us choose between ranking for that, ranking for solo content, or ranking for other reasons.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
Since I think the solo and alliance milestones and ranked rewards are the same for everybody I'd move more rewards to trophy tokens since they can be traded in a progression based store, making kabam more capable to scale rewards for every progression. Right now only the alliance milestones do that but for example the solo milestones, except for the titan shards, are only valuable for accounts below valiant, I'd much rather get like 25k trophy tokens instead of those 6 star and 7 star shards or I don't know the exact amount of tokens but at least I can decide if actually buy those shards from the store or get something else I might need more. For the solo ranked rewards it's trickier since getting high rank can be really valuable for a lower ranked account, maybe could be changed to selectors based on progression to scale them better or remove something to add trophy tokens instead, right now for a valiant it's not worth to spend units to buy elder marks just to get some titan shards or 7 star shards, the amount of 7 star sig stones is very low and 6 star rewards aren't valuable anymore for valiant players. Alliance ranked rewards give some valuable rewards for the top alliances but still it's not so important as before since you can buy those in the bg store and outside the top those rewards aren't very vabluable. Then there's the GC rewards, those haven't been buffed in a long time and for sure kabam could change something about those relics rewards but I still don't understand what is kabam's position on relics (maybe more resources to r3 6 star relics), then you could add some champion rankup materials or more crystal shards since the amount of shards in it now is definitely not as valuable as before.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
A lot of content in the game is outdated.
Yall need to do better, we been asking for a lot of changes..
No valient eq or monthly events… yet there is valiant only deals lol
I don’t think the BG rewards are too bad, the token store is great, the gladiator circuit rewards for where you place could use some updating. But overall I feel like BG rewards are more up to date than other aspects of the game like Incursions, EQ, AQ, and AW.
I'm guessing going through each tier and adjusting the rewards would be pretty time-consuming. If you'd rather not change each tier, you could add more tokens so we could buy more at the store.
Also, a token award, like arenas, would be nice after each win.
It's a hard thing when every single corner of the Battlegrounds rewards are outdated or insufficient.
Solo Event and Alliance Event milestone rewards are not up to date with the current progress of the game, especially for Valiant and Paragon players.
For how long the event seasons are, and the amount of just pure grind required, the Rank Rewards feel so deeply under-tuned. You spend an entire month grinding this event for the "end of season rewards" not feeling at all like all of the work that you put in. Just take a look at these:
As for the store, higher amounts of the item or lower amounts of the trophy tokens required to purchase. The introduction of 7* Awakening Gem shards feels like that should also be an item to buy. With T4A becoming more readily available, make the T4A shards in the BG store less of a slow-burn-increase, and instead make the 7* AG shards the new slow increment chase item.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
KarateMike I would say adjusting the rewards closer to what the current meta for each progression. As we move forward in the contest the thing needed is having rewards that help the players progress by being resources they would need. Nothing overly crazy, but something if the players invest in can help them progress. One thing is perhaps a decent chunk of frags for T6 Class Cats, hero shards (depending upon what progression) say 6* Shards for Cavalier and 7* for Thronebreaker and above(with each of those three progressions getting a different month, Valiant of course getting the most.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
For me I would like to see T6 class catalyst decreased in price and/or increase the amount we can purchase before waiting on the refresh. Hope to see what the team decides on. Thanks for asking for input.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
I'm not a BG grinder. I'm not skilled enough to place in mysterium. I think one of the reasons why the BG rewards seems outdated is because the resources can easily be obtained in other game modes with less grind and less stress from losing rank. My highest rank in GC is only arcane and the grind for that GC rewards doesnt feel rewarding that it makes climbing to arcane not worth it at all. That's why ever since i only just chill in Uru or gamma if i'm lucky. I would like to compete for Arcane or Quantum if the rewards will be upgraded but 4000/6000 7* shards seems really lackluster for a weak bg player like me that can obtain those resources in other game modes like SQ or 1 week of DSE. I think an increase on shards and trophy tokens would push me to compete, for Arcane and QUantum i think 7,500 and 10,000 7* shards, 40,000 - 70,000 tokens (Arcane III to QUantum I) seems fair for a season rewards.
Solo events i think an additional milestone to have 5k titan shards 10k 7* shards in total. ANd some trophy tokens per milestone or catalysts.
Solo and Alliance rank rewards needs to be more 7* focused
BG store is great, maybe an increase in purchase limit for t6cc selectors per week.
The out of date BG rewards have made the mode pretty worthless. It’s a shame because it was fun competing. The amount of time and effort it takes to get high ranks has just made it pointless though with the state of the current rewards. You just made 6* awakening gems, yet they are still being rewarded. 6* sig stones pile up and are just dumped into whatever isn’t sig 200. 6* shards still being treated as a proper reward while I have close to 50 r3 7* are just pointless.
Update the rewards if you want people actually buying elders to play the mode.
Definetly hear you, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just out of curiosity, and others feel free to jump in and share yours as well, but I would love to hear what you think a realistic updated reward set for BG might be. Can't and won't promise any changes based off of this, but always good to have this info handy!
I think it's not only BG but many modes as well. Would like to see increased titan shards and 7* shards, alongside more t4a and t7b. increased t6cc as well, the amount is pretty small
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With a new redesigned Store System ,Kabam may put an item list for every thing and progression level in a small space.
For example.... Crystal shards...
Instead of 6 and 7 separated, they could do this item list for all crystal shards....
So, when we click , a list will open like this
- 7 stars (150) = 2000
- 6 stars (1000)=500
- 5 stars (1000)=200
- 4 stars (500)= 50
- 3 stars (500)= 15
And the rarity we choose and pick will be the one we'll get, after click the button
The same can be done to Catalysts, Signature Stones, eg....
There are infinite noob small account valiants who can use those rewards.
Put the ‘lower value’ items back in the store.
I don't see the effort to reward ratio in monthly eq so I always ignore the along with paragon gauntlet, you can understand why we ignore them because the resources we get from rewards are not to be usable in 6* higher upgrade or 7* rankups being a valiant I would say that the rewards should be somehow encouragable
One more instance for autmn of agony rewards are good but they are not updated for a longer period of time earlier they were too good but now a days those rewards we can get them easily by just either daily super event or by other crystal like daily ones.
Please consider it
Thanks
Then GC rewards. You introduced 7* awakening gem shards during banquet, and GC rewards is perfect place to award them. Start with 2500 for top3, 2000 C4, and down to mysterium getting 500 lets say. But you'll need to stay on top of it, and in 6 months bump those figures a bit. And of course all current shard ammounts need increased. Like some 7* shard values need to be trippled to feel worth it.
After a full month of BG grinding, the top few hundred people should get to open a couple 7*'s at least from the rewards.
Personally, the items I value most are 7* focused. From least to most desirable:
1. 7* shards (I’m not missing many champs from basic, so while this is good, it’s less valuable than it used to be)
2. T4a (there are already quite a few sources of this, but it’s always needed in any amount)
3. Titan shards (also highly valued, even if it’s also a random chance at a wanted or useful champ)
4. Class or selector 7* shards (not a current item, but the ability to shave the pool a bit would be great)
5. 7* Sig stones (always useful)
6. 7* Awakening gems (most wanted for me, since I have a handful of champs I need to dupe to hit full potential and they can be saved to use with later champ acquisition)
Hope that helps. Again, as a long time player, my wants are not the same as folks still making their way through SQ or prepping to try the hardest content. Roster development of top of mind right now for me, since I don’t have a ton of champ needs.
Dr. Zola
Something is fundamentally broken about GC when the only incentive for most to play is the 3-day rewards and the solo event milestones. The number of people in each rank is so small that most people are destined to be stuck in uru 3.
And I know this is a hazard of GC, but if you do advance, the tension between playing, losing and dropping versus standing pat is disheartening. Even a modest adjustment to the points system might help there. If the default was +16 for beating an evenly ranked opponent and -14 for losing, a 46.66% win rate would be a break even proposition for the scoring. Maybe that gets people to play a bit extra.
Store: the ONLY thing I buy right now is all the t4a and all the 6-star relic shards. I have 15/24 6-star relics. I have 23/24 5-star relics. I’m a low spend, medium grind player who did one necro path and became valiant after 9.1. 6-star relic shards should be 5 batches of 700, allowing for 3500 shards per week instead of 2500. T4a should be 4275 fragments per purchase instead of 2850. This would run the max to 75% of a t4a per week from BGs. If the price needed to be adjusted from 2000 per buy to 2500 per buy, so be it. But right now I’d rather not spend trophies than spend them on lesser resources, because those lesser resources don’t actually allow me to ACCOMPLISH anything.
I have 28 max ascended 6-stars. I have something like a dozen 7r3 and 25 more 7r2. At this point, I’m ranking 7-stars to fill small niches on my roster or to save revives on fights I know I have to tackle, like AoA. I have exactly 100 7-stars. I’m not gambling my trophies on a 50% (ish…I dunno) chance that I get 600 Titan shards from a 7-star.
Full disclosure that might be valuable here: after almost 7 years of every day play, I took 2 months off from Feb to April of last year. With no meaningful way to progress to valiant, there was no point for me. It wasn’t rewarding.
The marginal value of each additional rankup decreases over time. Your first 5 (or 10 or whatever) r3 champs will be stronger and more helpful as a group than the next batch.
At this point, I’d really like Kabam to preview the next saga and let us choose between ranking for that, ranking for solo content, or ranking for other reasons.
A lot of content in the game is outdated.
Yall need to do better, we been asking for a lot of changes..
No valient eq or monthly events… yet there is valiant only deals lol
Also, a token award, like arenas, would be nice after each win.
Solo Event and Alliance Event milestone rewards are not up to date with the current progress of the game, especially for Valiant and Paragon players.
For how long the event seasons are, and the amount of just pure grind required, the Rank Rewards feel so deeply under-tuned. You spend an entire month grinding this event for the "end of season rewards" not feeling at all like all of the work that you put in. Just take a look at these:
As for the store, higher amounts of the item or lower amounts of the trophy tokens required to purchase. The introduction of 7* Awakening Gem shards feels like that should also be an item to buy. With T4A becoming more readily available, make the T4A shards in the BG store less of a slow-burn-increase, and instead make the 7* AG shards the new slow increment chase item.
No one will complain.
Solo events i think an additional milestone to have 5k titan shards 10k 7* shards in total. ANd some trophy tokens per milestone or catalysts.
Solo and Alliance rank rewards needs to be more 7* focused
BG store is great, maybe an increase in purchase limit for t6cc selectors per week.
And increase for elders mark cap
Replace 7 star shards with titan shards
Final milestone some t4a