Arnim Zola deep dive

EdisonLaw · February 1

https://youtu.be/RMzPee2ETUg?si=9CG9YuNzkW0xUZlN

Thoughts?

Wicket329 · February 1

The overall kit is good, but the burst damage on the disintegrate detonations feels a little low. It takes a lot of setup to get that payoff, it should really be a fight ender in most short to medium form content. Might just be the clips we saw though, I’ll withhold final judgment until we see some more hands-on stuff with him.

Polygon · February 1

From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon

TotemCorruption · February 1

Polygon said:
From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon

Would that be new?

Polygon · February 1

TotemCorruption said:

Polygon said:
From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon
Would that be new?

A tag being added as part of a sig? Yes.
Now, psychic shielding barely has any benefits on its own as theres so many reverse control mechanics where it won't help you. So there has to be a reason why they put it, it cant just be for show. Hence i suspect it being for a future defender

EdisonLaw · February 1

Polygon said:
From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon

Onslaught

Harryatomix · February 1

Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him

TotemCorruption · February 1

Polygon said:

TotemCorruption said:

Polygon said:
From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon
Would that be new?
A tag being added as part of a sig? Yes.
Now, psychic shielding barely has any benefits on its own as theres so many reverse control mechanics where it won't help you. So there has to be a reason why they put it, it cant just be for show. Hence i suspect it being for a future defender

Hmm, interesting, thanks.

EdisonLaw · February 1

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him

He does have a damage cap, but it doesn’t work vs special 3s

captain_rogers · February 1

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him

90 % cowardice go brrr

Harryatomix · February 1

EdisonLaw said:

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him
He does have a damage cap, but it doesn’t work vs special 3s

So I can use sp3 cycle with red mags and he is bleed immune so big dmg.

captain_rogers · February 1

He looks like a tank in defense with 90% cowardice during specials. And on attack it seems like you're better letting the disintegration expire on own instead of using a special attack.

Bendy · February 1

I like him but seems a champ that needs sigs but love the special locks or cowardice as say apoc or bishop u want sp2 u can like he has some cool stuff that i really like

Harryatomix · February 1

I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.

dr2ws · February 1

Polygon said:
From his Psychic Shielding sig ability, you know theyre about to release a nasty defender with reverse controls to the contest soon

Cassandra Nova is my guess, as she’s mutant so it will benefit Zola on the class advantage. I could see her with Reverse Controls.

dr2ws · February 1

The Heavy -> Sp2 is gonna be a real
pain based on the AI, gonna need some skill.

His walking animation is 10/10 though 😂

Bendy · February 1

Harryatomix said:
I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.

He doesnt seem that hard at all as a defender only tough part id say is the cowardice being 90%

Wicket329 · February 1

Harryatomix said:

EdisonLaw said:

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him
He does have a damage cap, but it doesn’t work vs special 3s
So I can use sp3 cycle with red mags and he is bleed immune so big dmg.

Ish. He applies a 90% cowardice and cannot have his ability accuracy modified, so magnetism isn’t gonna turn it off. I don’t think you’ll see the like 600,000 damage sp3 kind of numbers.

But, those armor breaks do linger, so your basic attacks should do tremendous damage after the sp3. I’d say parry or relic stun before throwing the sp3, then go in with basics. Wont be as effective, but should still be good numbers.

Bendy · February 1

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him

Or what u do is u go silk no specials and just nuke him with raw damage lol

captain_rogers · February 1

He'll be tanky defender for sometime but in any future power shield meta he will be a literal nightmare.

Bendy · February 1

captain_rogers said:
He'll be tanky defender for sometime but in any future power shield meta he will be a literal nightmare.

Use kingpin for that then lol on real think kp will be back into being a great use for arnim

Squidopus · February 1

Bendy said:

Harryatomix said:
I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.
He doesnt seem that hard at all as a defender only tough part id say is the cowardice being 90%

He gains ESP charges when struck and has a chance to inflict sleep if you hit him while above 20. You can heavy to remove charges, but that’s gonna be difficult when he has the same non-contact first medium and light attack that Onslaught does (which, I imagine, will also make attempts to use Magneto much worse since you can’t reliably parry him to charge heavy). I’m a little skeptical of the 5/5 defender rating he has on his champ spotlight, but he certainly doesn’t look like a pushover, especially with all his stall mechanics.

Bendy · February 1

Squidopus said:

Bendy said:

Harryatomix said:
I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.
He doesnt seem that hard at all as a defender only tough part id say is the cowardice being 90%
He gains ESP charges when struck and has a chance to inflict sleep if you hit him while above 20. You can heavy to remove charges, but that’s gonna be difficult when he has the same non-contact first medium and light attack that Onslaught does (which, I imagine, will also make attempts to use Magneto much worse since you can’t reliably parry him to charge heavy). I’m a little skeptical of the 5/5 defender rating he has on his champ spotlight, but he certainly doesn’t look like a pushover, especially with all his stall mechanics.

Angela chavez silk all have ways to take advantage of that

captain_rogers · February 1

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:
He'll be tanky defender for sometime but in any future power shield meta he will be a literal nightmare.
Use kingpin for that then lol on real think kp will be back into being a great use for arnim

His cowardice is passive in defense.

Bendy · February 1

captain_rogers said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:
He'll be tanky defender for sometime but in any future power shield meta he will be a literal nightmare.
Use kingpin for that then lol on real think kp will be back into being a great use for arnim
His cowardice is passive in defense.

Yep ignore my comment then i was thinking iit was staying a debuff dont like that then it being a passive for one thing debuff for another still think kp will be good as his big rage stuff

EdisonLaw · February 1

Harryatomix said:

EdisonLaw said:

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him
He does have a damage cap, but it doesn’t work vs special 3s
So I can use sp3 cycle with red mags and he is bleed immune so big dmg.

Wait, he can inflict 90% cowardice, so

EdisonLaw · February 1

Harryatomix said:
I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.

Harryatomix · February 1

captain_rogers said:

Harryatomix said:
Is there anything in his kit that says I can't magneto nuke him
90 % cowardice go brrr

Ah missed it. Magneto is gone then, gladiator should work great.

Squidopus · February 1

I think Arnim Zola’s damage is a bit better than people are giving credit for. In the deep dive at about 2:15, we see a 6* Zola start chaining heavies against a full health ROL Wolverine and by the time he finishes sp2 Wolverine was nearly dead. That means maybe about 350k damage with class advantage, and that clip was an unduped Zola who doesn’t get the extra burst damage when the disintegrations expire (doesn’t seem like a very big burst but it’s still extra damage). I wouldn’t write off his damage potential just yet

Harryatomix · February 1

Bendy said:

Squidopus said:

Bendy said:

Harryatomix said:
I think unconventional cosmic like Gladiator, Vox would work great against Zola. He seems to me like a 5/5 defender.
He doesnt seem that hard at all as a defender only tough part id say is the cowardice being 90%
He gains ESP charges when struck and has a chance to inflict sleep if you hit him while above 20. You can heavy to remove charges, but that’s gonna be difficult when he has the same non-contact first medium and light attack that Onslaught does (which, I imagine, will also make attempts to use Magneto much worse since you can’t reliably parry him to charge heavy). I’m a little skeptical of the 5/5 defender rating he has on his champ spotlight, but he certainly doesn’t look like a pushover, especially with all his stall mechanics.
Angela chavez silk all have ways to take advantage of that

Chavez will be slow, he doesn't have many buffs and her dmg comes from specials.

EdisonLaw · February 1

Squidopus said:
I think Arnim Zola’s damage is a bit better than people are giving credit for. In the deep dive at about 2:15, we see a 6* Zola start chaining heavies against a full health ROL Wolverine and by the time he finishes sp2 Wolverine was nearly dead. That means maybe about 350k damage with class advantage, and that clip was an unduped Zola who doesn’t get the extra burst damage when the disintegrations expire (doesn’t seem like a very big burst but it’s still extra damage). I wouldn’t write off his damage potential just yet

So the burst is just extra damage then, the big damage comes from the damage over time

Arnim Zola deep dive

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