Best Unstoppable Counters

TotemCorruption · February 21

So just curious who people prefer or rely on as their go-to unstoppable counter.
I'm excluding champs with AAR since that's a broader mechanic and a lot of nodes disable that anyway.

So mostly I'm thinking of Slow and Grit type of champs.
And maybe the ranking takes into account the effectiveness of the Slow and also what else the champ brings to the table other than just that utility.

So in no particular order:

Spider Gwen:
Slow: easy access; Heavy applies a Slow Debuff on the opponent for 15 seconds (or 18 seconds with sig ability).
Limits: doesn't apply against skill champs.
Other best tool: Can auto-evade unblockable specials for the whole fight after gaining a few spider-sense charges.
Cons: overall she kinda sucks.

She-Hulk:
Slow: same as Spider Gwen; throw Heavy; doesn't apply to Skill; shorter 12 second duration although added bonus is that if opponent is already Unstoppable, the Heavy can't be interrupted and she gains a fury.
Other best tool: petrify/weakness debuffs and big damage with fury stacks if you can maintain them.
Cons: even at 7R4 she has lower rating than an ascended Groot.

Dust:
Need to get to SP3 to get Grit passive. Kinda useless in my opinion because an SP3 is not easy access.

Beta Ray: Heavy grants 15 second Grit buff. Easy access but throwing a Heavy just to get and maintain grit might mess up the larger damage rotation.

Hawkeye: Slow debuff for 10 seconds on Heavy. Moving on...

Cheelth: I don't use her but I know she has easy access to Grit.

Any others people prefer? I think there are several more out there.

kvirr · February 21

Duped silk

Bogo · February 21

sig200 valk works wonders

TotemCorruption · February 21

kvirr said:
Duped silk

Yeah, but it's kind of niche? Isn't it mostly to prevent the opponent from becoming unstoppable while you're already pounding them?

Herbal_Taxman · February 21

Cheeilth is really, really useful. Grit from the sp1 and it’s easy to maintain. Gets stronger throughout the fight, ample cleanse mechanic. I recommend taking g her for a spin if you’ve got her.

Red Guardian’s slow is excellent (from sp1) and refreshes from his heavy. If you want to rock with a six star.

Bosley · February 21

If it's an unstoppable buff I like nullifying it with Sym Supreme....

Furrymoosen · February 21

Dust gets her grit passive when sandstorm is active. All you have to do is throw a heavy when the opponent has sand on them. Don't even need one bar of power, let alone three.

EdisonLaw · February 21

Beta Ray Bill and Chee'ilth, they don't rely on Slow or Deccelerate debuffs. Dani Moonstar is good as well as hers is a passive

TotemCorruption · February 21

Furrymoosen said:
Dust gets her grit passive when sandstorm is active. All you have to do is throw a heavy when the opponent has sand on them. Don't even need one bar of power, let alone three.

Ah yeah, that's correct.
I just use the SP3 to get sandstorm as that's the damage rotation I use, so I wasn't thinking about accessing grit earlier with a heavy.
I need to re-read her kit again anyhow, it's been a while and I rarely use her as an attacker...

TotemCorruption · February 21

Also, forgot to mention Sentry's Halt on his SP1.
Anyone use that a lot for unstoppable counters?

Furrymoosen · February 22

TotemCorruption said:

Furrymoosen said:
Dust gets her grit passive when sandstorm is active. All you have to do is throw a heavy when the opponent has sand on them. Don't even need one bar of power, let alone three.
Ah yeah, that's correct.
I just use the SP3 to get sandstorm as that's the damage rotation I use, so I wasn't thinking about accessing grit earlier with a heavy.
I need to re-read her kit again anyhow, it's been a while and I rarely use her as an attacker...

She's my go-to for Deathless Thanos in AW, and I've been using her almost exclusively to run path 5.

SirGamesBond · February 22

In current BG meta, I'm using Tigra and abs apart from the obvious ones.

ChaosMax1012 · February 22

Dust is surprisingly good if we’re talking war. Cheelith too.

Ayemeboi · February 22

Cap IW is my go to for unstoppable buffs.He’s my favorite champ so I’m biased

Herbal_Taxman · February 22

Don’t forget Shang.

Shock29 · February 22

I like using Spider-Man and Yellowjacket. Shang-Chi and Zemo are pretty good also. I would include Absorbing Man as well but he’s dependent on the Unstoppable being a Buff.

Squidopus · February 22

No mention of QS? He’s got some of the easiest slow in the game, just heavy sp1 and you’ll have it for probably the rest of the fight. If you can’t safely hit the opponent without slow or don’t want to burn the power, you can even just dash back a bunch to build momentum and trigger the slow before you even have to touch the opponent. Once you have the slow it’s indefinite until you exit terminal velocity and your momentum resets, and unless you’re facing healthpools in the millions you shouldn’t have issue killing the opponent before that happens.

TotemCorruption · February 22

Squidopus said:
No mention of QS? He’s got some of the easiest slow in the game, just heavy sp1 and you’ll have it for probably the rest of the fight. If you can’t safely hit the opponent without slow or don’t want to burn the power, you can even just dash back a bunch to build momentum and trigger the slow before you even have to touch the opponent. Once you have the slow it’s indefinite until you exit terminal velocity and your momentum resets, and unless you’re facing healthpools in the millions you shouldn’t have issue killing the opponent before that happens.

Hmm, now you're making me think I should've paid $100 to get the 7* QS offer.
Actually, no, that was never going to happen, even if they had included a 7* Hercules as a bonus...

184cm · February 22

Dani moonstar sp1 applies slow debuff

captain_rogers · February 22

She hulk with thanos synergy is easily the most reliable unstoppable counter.
Shang works great as well.

Shock29 · February 22

captain_rogers said:
She hulk with thanos synergy is easily the most reliable unstoppable counter.
Shang works great as well.

I'm assuming you mean the Deathless versions. She-Hulk is also a pretty good Unstoppable counter on her own.

One of my favorite Unstoppable counters is Stealthy. He can inflict a really long Slow off his SP2 and I've generally found him to be reliable in plenty of matchups. Plus, his Slow allows him to counter Evade and Miss as well.

shield311 · February 22

Abs man too

Magrailothos · February 22

TotemCorruption said:
So just curious who people prefer or rely on as their go-to unstoppable counter...

And maybe the ranking takes into account the effectiveness of the Slow and also what else the champ brings to the table other than just that utility.
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If you're thinking of using someone for Battlegrounds this season, Classic Spidey is tailor-made for it. Decelerate to shut down Unstoppable; and an important/oft-overlooked bit of utility: he ignores Limber except against Skill champs (where he's not going to be first choice, anyway).

And let's not forget he's got Debilitate (stacking twice if he's Awakened), so he's great for Enchantress.

SP1-SP1-SP2 is good for most fights.

Glassback · February 22

Shock29 said:

captain_rogers said:
She hulk with thanos synergy is easily the most reliable unstoppable counter.
Shang works great as well.
I'm assuming you mean the Deathless versions. She-Hulk is also a pretty good Unstoppable counter on her own.

One of my favorite Unstoppable counters is Stealthy. He can inflict a really long Slow off his SP2 and I've generally found him to be reliable in plenty of matchups. Plus, his Slow allows him to counter Evade and Miss as well.

Stealthy was game changing for me once upon a time for evade, unstoppable and miss, the synergy with scorp meant he could keep the slow from the light4 up for the whole fight.

PickL1e89 · February 22

She hulk cap iw

IAmGrO_ot78 · February 22

Shang Chi, Dragonman, Silver Centurion, Sorcerer Supreme, Red Guardian, SM99, Toad, Stealthy…all got slow.

I just play around it atm, keeping distance and get the unstoppable for my attacker.

TikkaMasala · February 22

I use Silk most. Seems to work consistently and easily.

Kingering_King · February 22

Silk and shang

TotemCorruption · February 22

Magrailothos said:

TotemCorruption said:
So just curious who people prefer or rely on as their go-to unstoppable counter...

And maybe the ranking takes into account the effectiveness of the Slow and also what else the champ brings to the table other than just that utility.
.
If you're thinking of using someone for Battlegrounds this season, Classic Spidey is tailor-made for it. Decelerate to shut down Unstoppable; and an important/oft-overlooked bit of utility: he ignores Limber except against Skill champs (where he's not going to be first choice, anyway).

And let's not forget he's got Debilitate (stacking twice if he's Awakened), so he's great for Enchantress.

SP1-SP1-SP2 is good for most fights.

BG is not a problem, I just keep doing that EoP Hulking path to get it done without revives but JJ always gets me. It has to be science or tech anyway but figured I'd ask for a broader discussion.
Spidey is good I just don't see myself ranking him up to make his damage viable enough.

Ragnaruk5178 · February 22

Shang chi is an insane unstoppable counter

Cat_Murdock · February 22

He’s new, but Joaquin Torres has VERY strong Slow Debuff uptime. It will activate when the opponent uses a special when you’re in Defensive Instinct or Peak Performance, and if he’s duped the Slow applies on fight start as well. Having it passively apply means it’s very easy to have it up the whole time without you doing anything.

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