I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
He's actually not immune. He shrugs off incinerate and poison. But running a path that has either of those makes his ramp up super fast. Not sure how you don't understand his rotation. Ramp to 10 heat charges and spam SP1. His SP2 isn't needed and neither is the SP3. He has many uses and is very tanky.
Obviously all the Hercules stans like you and the others in this thread won't find him useful or appealing. Many others do. I would love to dupe mine and I have sigs waiting for him as well. He's already r3, just need the dupe.
How am I a "Hercules stan?" Where did that come from?
It's a term used for when players only care about what champs like hercules do. You don't see the benefit other champs have because they aren't fancy or the "god tier" that the community deems. It's your choice to like whoever you want but just because you don't see the value in them, doesn't automatically make them terrible.
Why the heck will I care about mid things? Give us damage on champs or that champ is dud, Latest example is Leader vs Nefaria, both have same things but Nefa is leagues above, why? Damage.
There's a reason why everyone lost their mind the moment Dazzler sp2 damage was showcased to nuke literally everything, have you looked at that? Omg.
And there's a reason why everyone in community made fun of new scuffed Falcon hero, why? No damage, it's hilarious, bro does nothing, just taunt 😭😭 omg.
"Give us damage or they are duds" explains a lot about you. You just want nukes and no utility. I hope every content going forward has damage caps, just for you.
Found Leader and scuffed Falcon user 😭 uTiliTY 😳😳
You literally doesn't need high damage anywhere except bgs. Other content prioritize utility over damage. It's pointless to rank up for bgs, bgs have the worst rewards possible. Not talking about red hulk though, he have neither imo.
Also new falcon is not that bad like y'all project.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
He's actually not immune. He shrugs off incinerate and poison. But running a path that has either of those makes his ramp up super fast. Not sure how you don't understand his rotation. Ramp to 10 heat charges and spam SP1. His SP2 isn't needed and neither is the SP3. He has many uses and is very tanky.
Obviously all the Hercules stans like you and the others in this thread won't find him useful or appealing. Many others do. I would love to dupe mine and I have sigs waiting for him as well. He's already r3, just need the dupe.
How am I a "Hercules stan?" Where did that come from?
It's a term used for when players only care about what champs like hercules do. You don't see the benefit other champs have because they aren't fancy or the "god tier" that the community deems. It's your choice to like whoever you want but just because you don't see the value in them, doesn't automatically make them terrible.
Why the heck will I care about mid things? Give us damage on champs or that champ is dud, Latest example is Leader vs Nefaria, both have same things but Nefa is leagues above, why? Damage.
There's a reason why everyone lost their mind the moment Dazzler sp2 damage was showcased to nuke literally everything, have you looked at that? Omg.
And there's a reason why everyone in community made fun of new scuffed Falcon hero, why? No damage, it's hilarious, bro does nothing, just taunt 😭😭 omg.
"Give us damage or they are duds" explains a lot about you. You just want nukes and no utility. I hope every content going forward has damage caps, just for you.
Found Leader and scuffed Falcon user 😭 uTiliTY 😳😳
You literally doesn't need high damage anywhere except bgs. Other content prioritize utility over damage. It's pointless to rank up for bgs, bgs have the worst rewards possible. Not talking about red hulk though, he have neither imo.
Also new falcon is not that bad like y'all project.
BG shop is outdated but rewards are still best and BG shop is still best, What other shop is better? Glory could be only contender but unfortunately it has additive cost for some reason 🤡
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
He's actually not immune. He shrugs off incinerate and poison. But running a path that has either of those makes his ramp up super fast. Not sure how you don't understand his rotation. Ramp to 10 heat charges and spam SP1. His SP2 isn't needed and neither is the SP3. He has many uses and is very tanky.
Obviously all the Hercules stans like you and the others in this thread won't find him useful or appealing. Many others do. I would love to dupe mine and I have sigs waiting for him as well. He's already r3, just need the dupe.
How am I a "Hercules stan?" Where did that come from?
It's a term used for when players only care about what champs like hercules do. You don't see the benefit other champs have because they aren't fancy or the "god tier" that the community deems. It's your choice to like whoever you want but just because you don't see the value in them, doesn't automatically make them terrible.
Why the heck will I care about mid things? Give us damage on champs or that champ is dud, Latest example is Leader vs Nefaria, both have same things but Nefa is leagues above, why? Damage.
There's a reason why everyone lost their mind the moment Dazzler sp2 damage was showcased to nuke literally everything, have you looked at that? Omg.
And there's a reason why everyone in community made fun of new scuffed Falcon hero, why? No damage, it's hilarious, bro does nothing, just taunt 😭😭 omg.
"Give us damage or they are duds" explains a lot about you. You just want nukes and no utility. I hope every content going forward has damage caps, just for you.
Found Leader and scuffed Falcon user 😭 uTiliTY 😳😳
You literally doesn't need high damage anywhere except bgs. Other content prioritize utility over damage. It's pointless to rank up for bgs, bgs have the worst rewards possible. Not talking about red hulk though, he have neither imo.
Also new falcon is not that bad like y'all project.
BG shop is outdated but rewards are still best and BG shop is still best, What other shop is better? Glory could be only contender but unfortunately it has additive cost for some reason 🤡
Apparently, endgame content. Also DSE, it definitely gives more rewards than one bg cycle(excluding the shop).
So if we purely go by the rewards. Any champ that can help you complete dse is a good champ. Lol.
Not the greatest, but is far from the worst. I enjoy him and he comes in clutch when you need incinerate and poison immunity. He won me this match earlier today.
How you're enjoying him with 42k points? You won because enemy played badly not because Redhulk is anything good.
Is there any specific reason you like attacking others who find happiness in things you don't? I'm sorry that you're so miserable that you feel you need to tear down the people around you.
Also, if you saw my follow-up comment, you'd know that I definitely prefer 42k points to 9k points.
Sometimes it's nice to play a champion that doesn't need you spend ten minutes reading through the kit and reminding yourself what the rotation is.
Plus, every more and again you are up against nodes which make it hard to follow particular rotations. In those situations, champions like Red Hulk that don't rely on precise rotations can be useful.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
This might be a good example of where some people will make loving a champ the same thing as a champ being good. He has his utilities in his kit, but you really need to love the champ, there isn’t anything you’ll be missing not ranking him up. Unless you have a fairly new account and need his specific utility immediately to complete content.
Does winning alliance war fights count as utility?
Lol, someone solo'd Ares with groot, so is groot an OP champ now too? And as I said in my comment, he has his utilities just like any champ in this game. Every champ has something in their kit that is a utility and can be used somewhere.
Haha thanks for the compliment.. suggesting that it's my own person skill that is making him win fights, but I can't take all the credit 😌 But jokes aside.. I use him in war attack because he's effective lol - the Groot analogy makes no sense because you're suggesting there are better options for the fights I'm taking with him and that I'm choosing to use a lesser option because I like him, but you have no basis for this or any personal experience using him in AW (correctly - w/Recoils on, etc.) Most everyone here is basing their comments on theory and mine are based on personal experience using him What I can tell you is this, AW is my favorite game mode.. and I only choose whichever attacker I think is best to win any given fight Rulk is slaying AW mini bosses and doing it quite quickly (like that Knockdown/Debuff Sassy for example pictured above) Is he my most used attacker? No, not even close, but when my assignment calls for it - he comes out and he slays his part of it
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
Why? Red Hulk has: • An extra immunity • Slightly better damage (I contend Leader’s damage isn’t that much worse than Rulk, it’s not like Rulk is winning any awards himself) • A bit of regen and some respectable physical resistance • No major reliance on debuffs
Leader has: • Some of the best regen and power control in the game • Ability to block any unblockable attack • Debuffs that can’t be purified or cleansed, so Leader can handle a lot of the debuff punishing matchups that Rulk can anyways • Great bulk of his own thanks to incredible block proficiency, protections, and inequity. • An actual defensive presence, and a good one at that. He can really stall out the clock and threaten damage against players who don’t know his shtick, plus the fact that a lot of skills don’t automatically walk over him is a nice bit of extra insurance.
I’d say that if it came down to it, there’s a lot more scenarios where Leader’s unique toolkit has use than Rulk’s run-of-the-mill kit. If you want Rulk’s better damage, there’s a hundred other champs you’d take over both of them anyways. If you want to deal with unblockable or power gain, Leader has much less competition and can stand on his own.
This might be a good example of where some people will make loving a champ the same thing as a champ being good. He has his utilities in his kit, but you really need to love the champ, there isn’t anything you’ll be missing not ranking him up. Unless you have a fairly new account and need his specific utility immediately to complete content.
Does winning alliance war fights count as utility?
Lol, someone solo'd Ares with groot, so is groot an OP champ now too? And as I said in my comment, he has his utilities just like any champ in this game. Every champ has something in their kit that is a utility and can be used somewhere.
Haha thanks for the compliment.. suggesting that it's my own person skill that is making him win fights, but I can't take all the credit 😌 But jokes aside.. I use him in war attack because he's effective lol - the Groot analogy makes no sense because you're suggesting there are better options for the fights I'm taking with him and that I'm choosing to use a lesser option because I like him, but you have no basis for this or any personal experience using him in AW (correctly - w/Recoils on, etc.) Most everyone here is basing their comments on theory and mine are based on personal experience using him What I can tell you is this, AW is my favorite game mode.. and I only choose whichever attacker I think is best to win any given fight Rulk is slaying AW mini bosses and doing it quite quickly (like that Knockdown/Debuff Sassy for example pictured above) Is he my most used attacker? No, not even close, but when my assignment calls for it - he comes out and he slays his part of it
Did you use Antman during the decay meta? He is a god. Yes, in the right scenarios, a lot of champs come out and become the really really good, almost OP. Which again goes back to my earlier comment that loving a champ does not mean they are OP. No one in this comment section is saying Rulk is useless, but we are trying to give OP a realistic expectation of the champ. That's all. Also, war assignments are usually based on someone's roster or someone's preference on champion use or ability to use them. So getting assigned Rulk does not mean he is rated highly, it's just who you have or who you have shown you enjoy to use to the officers.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
Why? Red Hulk has: • An extra immunity • Slightly better damage (I contend Leader’s damage isn’t that much worse than Rulk, it’s not like Rulk is winning any awards himself) • A bit of regen and some respectable physical resistance • No major reliance on debuffs
Leader has: • Some of the best regen and power control in the game • Ability to block any unblockable attack • Debuffs that can’t be purified or cleansed, so Leader can handle a lot of the debuff punishing matchups that Rulk can anyways • Great bulk of his own thanks to incredible block proficiency, protections, and inequity. • An actual defensive presence, and a good one at that. He can really stall out the clock and threaten damage against players who don’t know his shtick, plus the fact that a lot of skills don’t automatically walk over him is a nice bit of extra insurance.
I’d say that if it came down to it, there’s a lot more scenarios where Leader’s unique toolkit has use than Rulk’s run-of-the-mill kit. If you want Rulk’s better damage, there’s a hundred other champs you’d take over both of them anyways. If you want to deal with unblockable or power gain, Leader has much less competition and can stand on his own.
Yeah right? Leader is great for second wind nodes. His severe debuff utility is highly underrated. And permanent steadfast? Which other champ has that lol. He is very mid at attack outside his target matchups, but is definitely two leagues above red hulk.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
No, it's just objective truth. I don't even hate red hulk but leader has way more utility, quicker access to damage and more defensive value
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
Why? Red Hulk has: • An extra immunity • Slightly better damage (I contend Leader’s damage isn’t that much worse than Rulk, it’s not like Rulk is winning any awards himself) • A bit of regen and some respectable physical resistance • No major reliance on debuffs
Leader has: • Some of the best regen and power control in the game • Ability to block any unblockable attack • Debuffs that can’t be purified or cleansed, so Leader can handle a lot of the debuff punishing matchups that Rulk can anyways • Great bulk of his own thanks to incredible block proficiency, protections, and inequity. • An actual defensive presence, and a good one at that. He can really stall out the clock and threaten damage against players who don’t know his shtick, plus the fact that a lot of skills don’t automatically walk over him is a nice bit of extra insurance.
I’d say that if it came down to it, there’s a lot more scenarios where Leader’s unique toolkit has use than Rulk’s run-of-the-mill kit. If you want Rulk’s better damage, there’s a hundred other champs you’d take over both of them anyways. If you want to deal with unblockable or power gain, Leader has much less competition and can stand on his own.
As someone who pulled Rulk from a Titan and expects to do so again on Tuesday, I would have much preferred Leader. Give me a unique kit any day over a mid kit whose only credible use case on the thread calls for recoil.
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Also new falcon is not that bad like y'all project.
What other shop is better? Glory could be only contender but unfortunately it has additive cost for some reason 🤡
Also DSE, it definitely gives more rewards than one bg cycle(excluding the shop).
So if we purely go by the rewards. Any champ that can help you complete dse is a good champ. Lol.
Also, if you saw my follow-up comment, you'd know that I definitely prefer 42k points to 9k points.
Plus, every more and again you are up against nodes which make it hard to follow particular rotations. In those situations, champions like Red Hulk that don't rely on precise rotations can be useful.
But jokes aside.. I use him in war attack because he's effective lol - the Groot analogy makes no sense because you're suggesting there are better options for the fights I'm taking with him and that I'm choosing to use a lesser option because I like him, but you have no basis for this or any personal experience using him in AW (correctly - w/Recoils on, etc.)
Most everyone here is basing their comments on theory and mine are based on personal experience using him
What I can tell you is this, AW is my favorite game mode.. and I only choose whichever attacker I think is best to win any given fight
Rulk is slaying AW mini bosses and doing it quite quickly (like that Knockdown/Debuff Sassy for example pictured above)
Is he my most used attacker? No, not even close, but when my assignment calls for it - he comes out and he slays his part of it
• An extra immunity
• Slightly better damage (I contend Leader’s damage isn’t that much worse than Rulk, it’s not like Rulk is winning any awards himself)
• A bit of regen and some respectable physical resistance
• No major reliance on debuffs
Leader has:
• Some of the best regen and power control in the game
• Ability to block any unblockable attack
• Debuffs that can’t be purified or cleansed, so Leader can handle a lot of the debuff punishing matchups that Rulk can anyways
• Great bulk of his own thanks to incredible block proficiency, protections, and inequity.
• An actual defensive presence, and a good one at that. He can really stall out the clock and threaten damage against players who don’t know his shtick, plus the fact that a lot of skills don’t automatically walk over him is a nice bit of extra insurance.
I’d say that if it came down to it, there’s a lot more scenarios where Leader’s unique toolkit has use than Rulk’s run-of-the-mill kit. If you want Rulk’s better damage, there’s a hundred other champs you’d take over both of them anyways. If you want to deal with unblockable or power gain, Leader has much less competition and can stand on his own.
As someone who pulled Rulk from a Titan and expects to do so again on Tuesday, I would have much preferred Leader. Give me a unique kit any day over a mid kit whose only credible use case on the thread calls for recoil.